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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 2

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Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
January 22 2010 01:51 GMT
#21
On January 22 2010 10:45 godlysquirrel wrote:
Hoping for triple bunker rush

-_- why?
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
January 22 2010 01:51 GMT
#22
MEGA HYPE. JD stops the flash tomorrow night!
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
January 22 2010 01:53 GMT
#23
hahah "if you don't watch it then you're a fag"
great banner man
Expecting Flash to win, but I liquibetted Jaedong (I did this before the OSL final TT, way too early) and I'll be cheering for Jaedong too.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
January 22 2010 02:00 GMT
#24
This banner is amazing. Well played
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 22 2010 02:02 GMT
#25
Boy those map stats are depressing
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 22 2010 02:03 GMT
#26
It's funny so many people are discrediting the map pool when Flash accounts for half the TvZ statistics on those maps anyway. Of course it's going to look biased for terran.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8161 Posts
January 22 2010 02:05 GMT
#27
On January 22 2010 11:03 Sandster wrote:
It's funny so many people are discrediting the map pool when Flash accounts for half the TvZ statistics on those maps anyway. Of course it's going to look biased for terran.


its not just stats, LOOK AT THE MAPS
Free Palestine
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
January 22 2010 02:07 GMT
#28
holy shit hype fucken hype go jaedong
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 02:10:45
January 22 2010 02:09 GMT
#29
I predict Flash will win 3-0 or 3-1, either way Flash wins.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
January 22 2010 02:11 GMT
#30
Hope at least one game gets to the late game, Flash has just been so brutal to zergs and the threat of a bunker rush is unfair.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 22 2010 02:12 GMT
#31
Jaedong haven't play a ZvT in 3 of the maps? Wow, this can be a double-edged sword for him, either that he is inexperienced in those or he have something deadly up on his sleeves. Flash have played on all of them which give Jaedong more insight.
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bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
January 22 2010 02:14 GMT
#32
I always seem to be out of the loop or something, but what time KST does this start? Thanks
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
Traveler
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 02:18:36
January 22 2010 02:14 GMT
#33
Haha, I know flash is going to win... in fact if someone bet me $100 versus my life I would take that bet on Flash winning.

It is all in the main post, Flash is a crazy TvZ player who just destroy's zergs with his extremely strong macro and unit movement, not to mention his ability to still micro his marines while doing that.

Jaedong is more of a ZvP player who can crush any toss who dare builds a first pylon without gg'ing. He isn't that great at ZvT (compared to flash's record that is, he still owns at it in general) and has already lost to Flash twice recently.

Of course both players are crazy good at their mirror matchups in addition to being all-around decent players and I am happy to see both here facing off in what is going to be the most epic Bo5 ever.

I wish there was a Toss player good enough to match either of these guys, but alas toss has been a sorry race recently.

(I would like to see Flash surprise the hell out of Jaedong and mech in the first game.)
Can you ever argue in favor of something without first proving it?
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 22 2010 02:14 GMT
#34
On January 22 2010 11:14 bias- wrote:
I always seem to be out of the loop or something, but what time KST does this start? Thanks

There's always that trusty calendar to the right that says MSL Final (17:00 KST).
God Bless
Tapioca Weasel
Profile Joined January 2010
81 Posts
January 22 2010 02:16 GMT
#35
I love jaedong, but i love starcraft at its highest level more, and i think that Flash will be the one to show us that. hypehypehypehypehypehype
I want to see July and Reach fight. Like with fists.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 22 2010 02:17 GMT
#36
On January 22 2010 11:12 Xiphos wrote:
Jaedong haven't play a ZvT in 3 of the maps? Wow, this can be a double-edged sword for him, either that he is inexperienced in those or he have something deadly up on his sleeves. Flash have played on all of them which give Jaedong more insight.


Flash currently has a very brutal play style against zergs, I don't know what insight you're talking about here. Flash has mixed up his play so much in TvZ that Jaedong basically has to prepare for everything he can possibly think of.

The fact that Jaedong hasn't played any of these maps on the grand stage is more of a hinderence i'd think.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
January 22 2010 02:17 GMT
#37
On January 22 2010 11:05 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 11:03 Sandster wrote:
It's funny so many people are discrediting the map pool when Flash accounts for half the TvZ statistics on those maps anyway. Of course it's going to look biased for terran.


its not just stats, LOOK AT THE MAPS


Yeah Ultimatum and Odd Eye look terrible for zerg lol.

Fighting Spirit on the other hand seems fine overall. Mutas are good, timing pushes are good, lategame Zerg is good. Jury's still out on match point. SKT1 Terrans hate it, others seem to like it. Who knows.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
January 22 2010 02:17 GMT
#38
On January 22 2010 11:03 Sandster wrote:
It's funny so many people are discrediting the map pool when Flash accounts for half the TvZ statistics on those maps anyway. Of course it's going to look biased for terran.

Thats relevent if flash wasnt playing lol
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
January 22 2010 02:18 GMT
#39
Scara - you updating this thread from the party tomorrow?
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
January 22 2010 02:24 GMT
#40
On January 22 2010 11:14 Traveler wrote:
(I would like to see Flash surprise the hell out of Jaedong and mech in the first game.)

That would be hella cool. It's very unlikely JD would be practicing against mech at all, so to throw that at him in the first game might throw JD off the rest of the match.
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