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Jaedong scouts the 2nd rax and no expansion for Flash
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JD SNEAKING A LING INTO FLASHS MAIN, SEES 2. RAX AND GAS
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this final is already f ucked up
so dissapointed..
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On January 23 2010 20:23 Blaz3k wrote:
double cheese :D
9/over pool =/= cheese :/
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pure marine rush?!?!? what the hell
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On January 23 2010 20:23 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 20:20 d_so wrote:On January 23 2010 20:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:On January 23 2010 20:14 Ace wrote:On January 23 2010 20:08 d_so wrote:On January 23 2010 19:59 KwarK wrote:On January 23 2010 19:56 d_so wrote:
look guys, konondra mentioned this earlier but the kespa rep clearly said they made their decision partly on leftover resources which in TvZ will always be in zerg's favor. to paraphrase, she said they made their decision based on units, bases and resources... but really, if flash won the fight at 7 -- which was possible -- there's no way you can say zerg is at an advatnage. flash's sci vessels at 7 were down, sure, but so were jaedong's defilers -- his last one got irradiated as soon as it came out of the nydus canal Flash didn't have the vessel count to stop defilers. JD had defilers their with nydus to reinforce and consume. Without 6 or so vessels Flash couldn't break through. And without killing 7 he couldn't win. He did a 2 base allin, based around stopping JD taking a 4th gas. That was his entire build. He lost all his vessels and JD had defilers and ultras at 7. There was nothing Flash could do. look i know you are the expert but you are convenient ignroing the fact that jaedong's last surviving deflier died to irradiate, as well as having no more than 4 ultras at his 7. now, he definitiely could have more etc and sent them through the nydus... but the question is whether he could have done this before flash ran through the dark swarm and attacked the base, especially since the first two swarms were close to running out. odds are more likely that jaedong would have new defilers in time to stop the fight, new ultras to replenish the troops... but at that moment, the reality was there were no defilers, very few ultras, no lings, and flash still had a substantial mnm force, the first two swarms near the base were almost out, and flash had a sci vessel at the nydus canal waiting for any other defilers to come through. yep, they just showed the replay. Jaedong lost all his defilers and Flash just got a brand new set of MM reinforcements. Jeadong DID NOT have both gases up - he just built the second extractor and had low drone saturation. From the way it looked Flash was going to kill 7. We don't know what Jaedong had at his base to push through the nydus. We DO know he had lings at 7 with sunkens and like 3 ultras with swarms running out. Flash's mineral expo WAS NOT up but he was maynarding SCVs. This is why people need to stfu and stop making shit up. Jaedong had an advantage but was in a very tight spot. No one knows how it would have turned out but Flash was in control for sure. Likewise Flash's expansion wasn't even up. That wasn't when the blackout happened. The game went on for another minute or so. watching the replay again in slow mo you see for a fact that there were only TWO ultras (third one died) + no defilers + 4 sci vessels remaining at the time of the blackout. god this shit's making me mad. imma go smoke brb wow they were about to start again... but delayed again... FUCK MBC GOD I TRIED DEFENDING UR IDIOTIC DECISION TO LIMIT THIS TO FAN CLUBS AND HAVE A VIRTUAL STADIUM BUT FUCK U HAVE FAILED I'm saying that when they stopped the VOD wasn't when the blackout ocurred. Many more vessels died and other stuff too.
i can't remember anymore honestly. maybe ur right.
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On January 23 2010 20:24 d_so wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 20:21 Caos2 wrote:On January 23 2010 20:08 d_so wrote:
look i know you are the expert but you are convenient ignroing the fact that jaedong's last surviving deflier died to irradiate, as well as having no more than 4 ultras at his 7. now, he definitiely could have more etc and sent them through the nydus... but the question is whether he could have done this before flash ran through the dark swarm and attacked the base, especially since the first two swarms were close to running out.
odds are more likely that jaedong would have new defilers in time to stop the fight, new ultras to replenish the troops... but at that moment, the reality was there were no defilers, very few ultras, no lings, and flash still had a substantial mnm force, the first two swarms near the base were almost out, and flash had a sci vessel at the nydus canal waiting for any other defilers to come through.
JD had 2 defilers at 7 when the game dropped. Just watch the VOD. ur trippin. replay clearly shows the last defiler had died. u should have watched the replay when they were showing it in slow mo ---- lr: second rax up for flash, can't bunker rush like he wanted
They didn't show the final minute when Flash's push was all but annihilated and you got a shot of JD's defilers at 7.
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On January 23 2010 20:24 d_so wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 20:21 Caos2 wrote:On January 23 2010 20:08 d_so wrote:
look i know you are the expert but you are convenient ignroing the fact that jaedong's last surviving deflier died to irradiate, as well as having no more than 4 ultras at his 7. now, he definitiely could have more etc and sent them through the nydus... but the question is whether he could have done this before flash ran through the dark swarm and attacked the base, especially since the first two swarms were close to running out.
odds are more likely that jaedong would have new defilers in time to stop the fight, new ultras to replenish the troops... but at that moment, the reality was there were no defilers, very few ultras, no lings, and flash still had a substantial mnm force, the first two swarms near the base were almost out, and flash had a sci vessel at the nydus canal waiting for any other defilers to come through.
JD had 2 defilers at 7 when the game dropped. Just watch the VOD. ur trippin. replay clearly shows the last defiler had died. u should have watched the replay when they were showing it in slow mo ---- lr: second rax up for flash, can't bunker rush like he wanted Let's write it in all caps this time; THE REPLAY THEY SHOWED STOPPED BEFORE THE POINT OF THE BLACKOUT
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On January 23 2010 20:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 20:21 KwarK wrote:On January 23 2010 20:15 Holgerius wrote:On January 23 2010 20:12 KwarK wrote:On January 23 2010 20:08 cz wrote:On January 23 2010 20:02 KwarK wrote:On January 23 2010 19:58 jalstar wrote:On January 23 2010 19:56 7mk wrote:
Look, people like Idra and Kwark are lightyears ahead of you in terms of sc knowledge, just dont...
Idra said Jaedong was ahead but it shouldn't be given to him and who's Kwark? A guy who knows what a 2 base allin looks like. I also got A- on icc. Can you please acknowledge that you recognize that Flash had just started mining at an expo as the power went out? Yes, that's why he was on 2 mining bases with one about to mine out. Can you please acknowledge that when a Terran stays on 2 bases with a heavy scv saturation for 10 minutes he mines out? Flash didn't take a 3rd for ages. He was on a 2 base allin. That 3rd was pretty much his entire economy. Can you acknowledge that bigger comebacks than this would've been has happened in the SC history? Every now and then on bnet, sure. But over JD in a starleague finals? No. I don't acknowledge that a Terran without the science vessel count to kill the defilers and break an expansion can win against a Zerg with map control, the full tech tree, full upgrades, 4 mining bases and 5 gases when that Zerg is also JD. Comebacks happen because a player makes mistakes. JD would need to make a fucking huge mistake (like plaguing all his ultras randomly) to lose that. He doesn't make that kind of mistake. JD WAS NOT IN SUCH A GOOD SHAPE AS U MAKE HIM TO BE.. SERIOUSLY MAN WATCH THE GAME !?
I did. I just drew different conclusions to you. I consider mine more informed. You can disagree if you like but that will only increase my opinion of myself in comparison to you. I don't feel obliged to have everyone agree with me.
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On January 23 2010 20:23 Garnet wrote:
6 Barracks in cross position? You need to calm down Flash.
It's sure a good thing flash can predict what position his opponent is in at 8 supply.
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good thing about this series though is that we have contoversy again in starcraft... controversy is good imo. and maybe flash and jd will hate each other a bit... don't want to ruin friendships but a friendly rivalry sucks comapred to a vitriolic, irrational one
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flash goes for the allin, what else can you do
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JD DEFENDS THE SUNKEN BUST
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Flash really doesn't give a shit anymore....
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United States378 Posts
Sunkens intact; this is bad.
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Flash fails the push. Jaedong didnt even lose a sunken
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flash on tilt
worst finals ever
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oh no, doesn't look good for flash 
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EPT
