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[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs KT Rolster - Page 5

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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 04 2010 05:19 GMT
#81
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match
dats racist
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 05:23:10
January 04 2010 05:20 GMT
#82
(P)Stork > (P)Stats
(T)firebathero < (T)Flash
(P)JangBi < (Z)Luxury
(Z)great < (P)Violet

jangbi/luxury as I said earlier is the most important match, because its the most "??" match. If jangbi wins and it goes to ace, flash very well might lose to stork or jangbi's great pvt, specially since he must be exhausted. Likewise violet would have a hard time wining pvp against them. Still, KT is favoured over all IMO.
On January 04 2010 14:07 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 09:58 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think Flash is going out for ace?

I will be really annoyed if he actually gets sent.

Do Best and Stork really have drastically different play styles? hes practicing TvP for MSL anyways. Unless Best and Stork have a play style difference akin to Oov-Kwanro, there shouldnt be a problem practicing for both at the same time
They do have different styles, yes. Enough to make it hard. Beyond that though, best/stork are both high level pvt players. He would need an equally strong build order and game plan put together in order to beat them. Thats a difficult process. And using a build order against stork might expose his plans against best, yada yada. Very good chance IMO flash wont be sent out.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 04 2010 05:24 GMT
#83
On January 04 2010 14:19 MrHoon wrote:
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match

It might not be likely to happen, but we all sure as hell want it to happen. Stork/Flash would be incredible to watch.
God Bless
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 06:48:54
January 04 2010 05:25 GMT
#84
On January 04 2010 14:19 MrHoon wrote:
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match


Any reason not to? So far on this map, we've seen

21 terrans
13 zergs
3 protosses

So Khan either sends a protoss on a map that sucks horribly for protosses, or they send a non-protoss. Flash theoretically wins against all. Whereas sending Luxury or someone else means epic fail if Khan decides to go with Great or Miracle or someone else for Ace.

Edit: It's actually 21 terrans, not 16. Messed up by not double counting the 5 TvTs. It looks like a pretty clear protoss map. And it's not as if Flash isn't practicing TvP heavily against Best right now anyway.
Meh
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
January 04 2010 05:31 GMT
#85
KT in three so easy
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Pokeball
Profile Joined December 2009
94 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 05:40:20
January 04 2010 05:36 GMT
#86
On January 04 2010 14:25 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 14:19 MrHoon wrote:
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match


Any reason not to? So far on this map, we've seen

16 terrans
13 zergs
3 protosses

So Khan either sends a protoss on a map that sucks horribly for protosses, or they send a non-protoss. Flash theoretically wins against all. Whereas sending Luxury or someone else means epic fail if Khan decides to go with Great or Miracle or someone else for Ace.


Because Flash needs to work on his MSL games against Best. There's no need to send him out and overwork him to death since KTFlash doesn't exist anymore and they're so far ahead from every other team that one loss won't mean much. Since this isn't on Outsider, Violet is a very good option to take down whatever Khan will send out as the guy has shown that he can be quite a reliable ace.

KT should be pretty much expecting Jangbi/Stork for ace so they might even send out Lux. It won't be epic fail if they send out someone who isn't Jangbi/Stork since I don't think any of them can really handle Violet right now. Great isn't all that great and Miracle isn't really that good either.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 04 2010 05:42 GMT
#87
(T)firebathero is only good when playing (T)Flash. But he's damn good when he does.

Upset today? I'll say yes.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 04 2010 05:49 GMT
#88
On January 04 2010 14:36 Pokeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 14:25 baubo wrote:
On January 04 2010 14:19 MrHoon wrote:
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match


Any reason not to? So far on this map, we've seen

16 terrans
13 zergs
3 protosses

So Khan either sends a protoss on a map that sucks horribly for protosses, or they send a non-protoss. Flash theoretically wins against all. Whereas sending Luxury or someone else means epic fail if Khan decides to go with Great or Miracle or someone else for Ace.


Because Flash needs to work on his MSL games against Best. There's no need to send him out and overwork him to death since KTFlash doesn't exist anymore and they're so far ahead from every other team that one loss won't mean much. Since this isn't on Outsider, Violet is a very good option to take down whatever Khan will send out as the guy has shown that he can be quite a reliable ace.

KT should be pretty much expecting Jangbi/Stork for ace so they might even send out Lux. It won't be epic fail if they send out someone who isn't Jangbi/Stork since I don't think any of them can really handle Violet right now. Great isn't all that great and Miracle isn't really that good either.

What?
Are you saying that it wouldn't be a bad idea for Khan to send out someone other than Stork/Jangbi because the other people can't handle Violet?
Or are you saying Stork/Jangbi can't handle Violet?
Jaedong
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 04 2010 06:01 GMT
#89
gogo keep on guessing
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Pokeball
Profile Joined December 2009
94 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 06:11:51
January 04 2010 06:04 GMT
#90
On January 04 2010 14:49 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 14:36 Pokeball wrote:
On January 04 2010 14:25 baubo wrote:
On January 04 2010 14:19 MrHoon wrote:
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match


Any reason not to? So far on this map, we've seen

16 terrans
13 zergs
3 protosses

So Khan either sends a protoss on a map that sucks horribly for protosses, or they send a non-protoss. Flash theoretically wins against all. Whereas sending Luxury or someone else means epic fail if Khan decides to go with Great or Miracle or someone else for Ace.


Because Flash needs to work on his MSL games against Best. There's no need to send him out and overwork him to death since KTFlash doesn't exist anymore and they're so far ahead from every other team that one loss won't mean much. Since this isn't on Outsider, Violet is a very good option to take down whatever Khan will send out as the guy has shown that he can be quite a reliable ace.

KT should be pretty much expecting Jangbi/Stork for ace so they might even send out Lux. It won't be epic fail if they send out someone who isn't Jangbi/Stork since I don't think any of them can really handle Violet right now. Great isn't all that great and Miracle isn't really that good either.

What?
Are you saying that it wouldn't be a bad idea for Khan to send out someone other than Stork/Jangbi because the other people can't handle Violet?
Or are you saying Stork/Jangbi can't handle Violet?


Sorry for the confusion English isn't my first language.

What I meant is that Khan will likely send out Jangbi/Stork because their terran and zerg line can't handle Flash or Violet reliably as well as if KT sends out Violet or Lux, it won't be "epic fail" because they're good enough to do alright against anyone on Khan.

Despite whatever map imba (?) there is on Tornado, I simply can't see Khan sending out anyone but Great, Jangbi, and Stork, which are all players Lux, Flash, and Violet can potentially do well against.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 04 2010 06:07 GMT
#91
On January 04 2010 14:25 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 14:19 MrHoon wrote:
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match


Any reason not to? So far on this map, we've seen

16 terrans
13 zergs
3 protosses

So Khan either sends a protoss on a map that sucks horribly for protosses, or they send a non-protoss. Flash theoretically wins against all. Whereas sending Luxury or someone else means epic fail if Khan decides to go with Great or Miracle or someone else for Ace.


I thought this was because of the map's ridiculous Z >>>>> P balance, not because PvT was imba on the map.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 04 2010 06:15 GMT
#92
On January 04 2010 12:07 t_co wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 11:34 Manit0u wrote:
On January 04 2010 11:19 Cpt.InSaNo wrote:
oK stork vs stats.......... idk if anyone has seen stats play or not but stats is pretty damn good but has anyone seen Stork play on outsider pvp he simply rapes his opponents I dont think anyone is giving stats credit here bc i see this game being game of the night ~


Stork has like 10x more games played than Stats. Experience wins games.


Experience can also make you arrogant and care about things like your weight more than precise timing, multitask, and map-specific hanbangs...


You do realize how good stork is playing these days right?....
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
January 04 2010 06:19 GMT
#93
On January 04 2010 14:31 Scaramanga wrote:
KT in three so easy


pshhh, you and your fanboism.

Khan has this.
Stuck.
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
January 04 2010 06:23 GMT
#94
On January 04 2010 06:00 Itachii wrote:
Prepare for BBS from FBH, you heard it here first
and epic dance later on


In my visions, FBH went BBS, wins somehow, throws his headphones off with mouth agape, runs outside for a dozen high-fives from his team, then makes a circuit of the audience. His jubilant pelvic thrusts throw open a portal to the underworld, and hell's apocalypse envelops the earth without contention because a god was slain.

For the sake of all humanity, Flash, don't go 14cc. That is all.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
January 04 2010 06:44 GMT
#95
I'm so hoping for FBH to lose the first game, go to ACE, and win vs FlaSh. Doubtful to happen though x.x
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 04 2010 06:47 GMT
#96
On January 04 2010 15:07 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 14:25 baubo wrote:
On January 04 2010 14:19 MrHoon wrote:
I also find it weird almost everyone is predicting Flash for ace match


Any reason not to? So far on this map, we've seen

16 terrans
13 zergs
3 protosses

So Khan either sends a protoss on a map that sucks horribly for protosses, or they send a non-protoss. Flash theoretically wins against all. Whereas sending Luxury or someone else means epic fail if Khan decides to go with Great or Miracle or someone else for Ace.


I thought this was because of the map's ridiculous Z >>>>> P balance, not because PvT was imba on the map.


I just realized I messed up. It's actually 21 terrans to 13 zergs.

So even assuming the ZvP imba, There's no reason not to send more tosses to snipe terrans if PvT is good. The chance of you catching terrans is higher than zergs. Which probably means that PvT is at least somewhat terran favored. Even if it's not as bad as PvZ.
Meh
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 04 2010 06:52 GMT
#97
LOL

SKT and Samsung Khan will be taking the Subway to today's proleague match

lol lolzy
dats racist
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 04 2010 06:57 GMT
#98
I guess Firebathero will lose. That's all I know.
Brood War loyalist
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
January 04 2010 07:10 GMT
#99
--- Nuked ---
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 04 2010 07:10 GMT
#100
On January 04 2010 15:52 MrHoon wrote:
LOL

SKT and Samsung Khan will be taking the Subway to today's proleague match

lol lolzy


Is this a cost cutting thing or something?
Remember Violet.
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