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RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 29 2009 14:39 GMT
#841
Deffinitely this is the worst FPL day evah.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 15:21:47
December 29 2009 15:20 GMT
#842
On December 29 2009 21:10 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 21:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
ling run by imba
crackling imba
lurker defense imba
psi storm imba
reaver/archon late game imba

PvZ is somehow imba every minute of the game, alternating between each race. Sounds like any non-mirror to me. But seriously, stop saying imba all the damn time. Especially on a P>Z map.

Nah, we weren't saying that's imba, just that it's annoying.


The word imba was used, learn to read:



\I will admit that. I was surprised at effort's macro. But this imba is rather annoying me as a p player.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 29 2009 16:05 GMT
#843
That's my boy JangBi, show them Zergs your stellar Dt/Ht usage!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 16:08:54
December 29 2009 16:08 GMT
#844
I just hope TurN will start trying to be Flash 2.0 rather than UpMagic 2.0 after today.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 29 2009 16:52 GMT
#845
Awww. So CJ won't sweep this round.

I'm a huge (Z)EffOrt fan, but by all accounts he played amazing, and only got beaten because (P)JangBi ate some magic donuts before the game. Whatever, EffOrt is still a ZvP god.

Most annoyed about (T)sKyHigh though. We all know how good this kid can be and he just refuses to show it. (P)Movie has lost two in a row now as well.

(Z)Hydra and (T)TurN... I love both.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
December 29 2009 16:53 GMT
#846
Game 4 and 5 results are really suprising.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
December 29 2009 17:35 GMT
#847
Just the way we said, 3.2 Khan, well played by JangBi
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 18:18:23
December 29 2009 17:55 GMT
#848
I opened up the results menu and the first thing I saw made me sad. I wanted to close it right there and then, but I found the strength and bravery to look further and I am no longer sad.

Fortune favors the brave.

On December 29 2009 18:06 scyper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 14:53 lone_hydra wrote:
On December 29 2009 13:41 AttackZerg wrote:
On December 29 2009 08:15 lone_hydra wrote:
On December 29 2009 07:55 jalstar wrote:
On December 29 2009 05:10 Xxio wrote:
On December 29 2009 05:03 lone_hydra wrote:
Stork... you gonna show us your revolutionary PvZ? Or you gonna save it for the next starleague and get rolled but mass mutas again?


Protoss losing to mutas is about the worst thing that can happen imo

so boring..it's like, "gj you won without doing a single thing"


effort plays nothing like shine, he goes standard almost every game and wins with mechanics


That is why I am not a big fan of Effort. He overwhelms opponents with mechanics and wins even though he makes strategical mistakes here and there. I'd like him more if he shows out of the ordinary stuff sometimes or if his play feels more genious rather than super robot. But I guess that's what makes him such a ZvP beast.


hmm actually compared to crap zergs like yellow/luxury/shine/kwanro effort is a strategical genius.

Every single game he has a plan that goes from 4 drones to 40 and from 3 base to five and six.

He has been a front runner in developing zvp standard play over the last six months (only behind jaedong) and zvt he is the only zerg in the world right now with a consistent midgame AND lategame plan.

Anybody who wants to learn how zerg should be played needs to watch effort his understanding and lategame in both zvp and zvt are insanely deep not to mention he is a mechanical genius with 100 less apm then jaedong ..... I mean really ... how is that even possible ...


He plays standard really well and consistently is what u r trying to tell me. Which is basically exactly what I posted. He plays like a super robot and that is why I don''t like him that much.

How did he become a front runner developing zvp play,??? What innovation did he make? He just takes what has been proven works and does a damn good job of recreating it in his play but that is why his zvz is so random because what works is usually luck based BO.

He is smart and top tier for doing what works very well. But he is in no way a strategical genius if he doesn't show a lot of creativity.


i take it you don't like flash very much


I like Flash. He is capable of going nuts and going for unorthodox builds, creativity or cheese. as he has shown before many times in the past. There is personality behind his play.

Its not that i hate Effort, I just wish he'd show something out of the ordinary or has something about his play that when people watch it they go" that's so Effort".
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
December 29 2009 18:12 GMT
#849
happy that stork lost, jangbi and great won. Not happy that turn lost, but hes shown a lot of potential and all rookies have a hard time adjusting, so what can ya say. I still have faith he can go somewhere.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 29 2009 18:17 GMT
#850
On December 30 2009 03:12 yhnmk wrote:
happy that stork lost, jangbi and great won. Not happy that turn lost, but hes shown a lot of potential and all rookies have a hard time adjusting, so what can ya say. I still have faith he can go somewhere.


I think hydra winning should be noted too.

I am surprised a newbie knows how to counter 2 port wraith perfectly.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17532 Posts
December 29 2009 18:35 GMT
#851
On December 30 2009 03:17 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 03:12 yhnmk wrote:
happy that stork lost, jangbi and great won. Not happy that turn lost, but hes shown a lot of potential and all rookies have a hard time adjusting, so what can ya say. I still have faith he can go somewhere.


I think hydra winning should be noted too.

I am surprised a newbie knows how to counter 2 port wraith perfectly.


Wait for terran to overcommit while playing it safe yourself? Perfectly executed!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 29 2009 18:39 GMT
#852
Even though I'm happy for samsung my fantasy team got completely raped because of this game, (Movie and stork losing). Oh well, at least Samsung got revenge.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 29 2009 18:47 GMT
#853
On December 30 2009 03:35 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 03:17 SuperArc wrote:
On December 30 2009 03:12 yhnmk wrote:
happy that stork lost, jangbi and great won. Not happy that turn lost, but hes shown a lot of potential and all rookies have a hard time adjusting, so what can ya say. I still have faith he can go somewhere.


I think hydra winning should be noted too.

I am surprised a newbie knows how to counter 2 port wraith perfectly.


Wait for terran to overcommit while playing it safe yourself? Perfectly executed!


Watch last season Leta's opponents. So many zergs (A-A+ ones included) did the wrong thing.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
December 29 2009 19:12 GMT
#854
YESS KHAN!

go KHAN! TBLS <3
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 19:44:52
December 29 2009 19:42 GMT
#855
On December 30 2009 02:55 lone_hydra wrote:
I opened up the results menu and the first thing I saw made me sad. I wanted to close it right there and then, but I found the strength and bravery to look further and I am no longer sad.

Fortune favors the brave.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 18:06 scyper wrote:
On December 29 2009 14:53 lone_hydra wrote:
On December 29 2009 13:41 AttackZerg wrote:
On December 29 2009 08:15 lone_hydra wrote:
On December 29 2009 07:55 jalstar wrote:
On December 29 2009 05:10 Xxio wrote:
On December 29 2009 05:03 lone_hydra wrote:
Stork... you gonna show us your revolutionary PvZ? Or you gonna save it for the next starleague and get rolled but mass mutas again?


Protoss losing to mutas is about the worst thing that can happen imo

so boring..it's like, "gj you won without doing a single thing"


effort plays nothing like shine, he goes standard almost every game and wins with mechanics


That is why I am not a big fan of Effort. He overwhelms opponents with mechanics and wins even though he makes strategical mistakes here and there. I'd like him more if he shows out of the ordinary stuff sometimes or if his play feels more genious rather than super robot. But I guess that's what makes him such a ZvP beast.


hmm actually compared to crap zergs like yellow/luxury/shine/kwanro effort is a strategical genius.

Every single game he has a plan that goes from 4 drones to 40 and from 3 base to five and six.

He has been a front runner in developing zvp standard play over the last six months (only behind jaedong) and zvt he is the only zerg in the world right now with a consistent midgame AND lategame plan.

Anybody who wants to learn how zerg should be played needs to watch effort his understanding and lategame in both zvp and zvt are insanely deep not to mention he is a mechanical genius with 100 less apm then jaedong ..... I mean really ... how is that even possible ...


He plays standard really well and consistently is what u r trying to tell me. Which is basically exactly what I posted. He plays like a super robot and that is why I don''t like him that much.

How did he become a front runner developing zvp play,??? What innovation did he make? He just takes what has been proven works and does a damn good job of recreating it in his play but that is why his zvz is so random because what works is usually luck based BO.

He is smart and top tier for doing what works very well. But he is in no way a strategical genius if he doesn't show a lot of creativity.


i take it you don't like flash very much


I like Flash. He is capable of going nuts and going for unorthodox builds, creativity or cheese. as he has shown before many times in the past. There is personality behind his play.

Its not that i hate Effort, I just wish he'd show something out of the ordinary or has something about his play that when people watch it they go" that's so Effort".


(Z)EffOrt does have his own style though. In ZvP especially, he's really brought back into the mainstream that four-gas-power-hive play, that got supplanted by Jaedong's aggressive lair play.

There's usually a moment in his ZvP's where the protoss has this huge army, and EffOrt just has a few sunkens, and some lings and lurkers, and he breaks out the devil juice, slows the protoss, and next thing you know, there are lings and ultras all over the map. In the great game against Stork in the playoffs, people ciriticize stork for attacking EffOrt's nat, but if he continues to delay, EffOrt was right at that moment of explosion that he usually rolls his opponents with anyway.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
December 29 2009 20:03 GMT
#856
I really hope the way stork lost doesnt signal a decline.

Losing vs shine on a zerg friendly map pool didnt worry me but now seing stork fuck up his cannon timing so badly even though he scouted correctly makes me a bit nervous over his future.

When was the last time stork screwed up so badly vs Z?

I remember his vZ being painfully awfull at one point(his early-mid game late game hes always been great) but i cant think of any game he played where he scouted correctly and STILL let the zerg do a runby.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
December 29 2009 20:35 GMT
#857
I like Turn, but it was dumb to all-in with the wraiths like that. He could have easily expanded and transitioned into bio after getting an advantage from the wraiths
I drop suckas like Plinko
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
December 29 2009 21:30 GMT
#858
Is it just me or does the LB say that Samsung won...?
BeSt[WHITE] Have a great retirement | "SKT is best KT." - Vortok | http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7190/ep24hitcombo2small.gif
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 29 2009 21:31 GMT
#859
On December 30 2009 05:03 Kreedit wrote:
I really hope the way stork lost doesnt signal a decline.

Losing vs shine on a zerg friendly map pool didnt worry me but now seing stork fuck up his cannon timing so badly even though he scouted correctly makes me a bit nervous over his future.

When was the last time stork screwed up so badly vs Z?

I remember his vZ being painfully awfull at one point(his early-mid game late game hes always been great) but i cant think of any game he played where he scouted correctly and STILL let the zerg do a runby.


It's one game.....

Man people these days are SOO quick to call slump it's really amazing. Yes he lost very badly but it is possible for a guy to just have a bad day and nothing more.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
yes9111
Profile Joined May 2009
United States420 Posts
December 29 2009 21:36 GMT
#860
On December 30 2009 06:30 Shinshady wrote:
Is it just me or does the LB say that Samsung won...?

Samsung won
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