EPT[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs CJ Entus - Page 42
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:21 Baddieko wrote: lol effort isn't going to win whether he lost the drones or not. I beg to differ. If he hand't lost those drones, he could have keep turtling while raping Jangbi with drops. | ||
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marcoso
Brazil818 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:20 Rainmaker5 wrote: Efforts lurker-ling defense of that high ground was incredible though. Sending in zerglings piecemeal to have the lurkers do maximum damage was just brilliant. and jangbi should've used less zealots, leaving like 2/3 behind and sending them when needed (protect goons from lings)... | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:21 Baddieko wrote: lol effort isn't going to win whether he lost the drones or not. This map allows toss to keep the same no. of expos easily. I would say jangbi choking if he fails to win. CJ sends effort on any map, i thought they should have sent movie instead. Without the lost drones, Jangbi wouldnt have won dude | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:20 Rainmaker5 wrote: yup yup, that was beautiful to watchEfforts lurker-ling defense of that high ground was incredible though. Sending in zerglings piecemeal to have the lurkers do maximum damage was just brilliant. On December 29 2009 21:25 SuperArc wrote: yeah, id have to agree with this, calculate the amount of minerals he had to spend replacing them and mining time which adds up to quite a lot. that put him REALLY behindWithout the lost drones, Jangbi wouldnt have won dude | ||
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marcoso
Brazil818 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:25 SuperArc wrote: Without the lost drones, Jangbi wouldnt have won dude He could, but it would be harder. | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
Hypotheticals aren't very useful, however, for obvious reasons. Until we build JangBi and Effort robots that is, and make them play each forever for our amusement. | ||
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
sure he could and still had much higher chance to win, the map favours P and effort was behind from failed ling runby. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On December 29 2009 20:59 Baddieko wrote: now zergs can whine the imba for PvZ on match point. Would people please stop whining about imbalances . JangBi won the game with a well executed 2 front attack . If Effort had more static defences at natural to prevent DT runby or just a spore and 6 hidras the game would have looked a lot different . And also it isn't "ZvP imba" that kept Effort in the game it was his skills as a starcraft player . If you think it's easy stabilizing from a 20 + drone and a spire kill this early in the game it is fucking not . Replacing all the drones as fast as possible while still macroing army units , having perfectly spread lurkers for defence and marcoing from 8+ hatcherys at the same time , replacing the spire sniping observers and still perfectly macroing at the same time . If you think that playing zerg is easy or ZvP is imbalanced i would suggest every protoss player with that thought to switch to zerg . | ||
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marcoso
Brazil818 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:31 Baddieko wrote: sure he could and still had much higher chance to win, the map favours P and effort was behind from failed ling runby. How was that ling runby a fail? That single ling that passed got necessary intel to perfectly counter the early DT harass. | ||
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:38 marcoso wrote: How was that ling runby a fail? That single ling that passed got necessary intel to perfectly counter the early DT harass. The failed ling runby and considering protoss don't make zealots and zerg over made lings. Thereafter air control will be surrendered resulting in easy dt harrass. I guess its just khan's toss and every zerg fancy their chances of runby. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:38 marcoso wrote: How was that ling runby a fail? That single ling that passed got necessary intel to perfectly counter the early DT harass. Isnt DT harass a STANDARD play? as in you dont need to scout it you assume its coming? Effort spent alot of money early game on lings and lost most of them for basically no gain. He coulda sacrificed an overlord to get the same scouting information that he wasted 6+lings for | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:43 Chen wrote: Isnt DT harass a STANDARD play? as in you dont need to scout it you assume its coming? Effort spent alot of money early game on lings and lost most of them for basically no gain. He coulda sacrificed an overlord to get the same scouting information that he wasted 6+lings for I dont think effort intend to scout using those lings. He wants to win right away by destroying many probes. Normally he only make 6-8 lings. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:18 Blaz3k wrote: It's stupid how zerg can lose 30 drones and still stay in a game for so long. If toss looses 10 drones its GG in the next 5min. If a toss lose 10 drones when he's on 3 base to 4 base, then no, he doesn't gg the next 5 minutes. He'd even have a chance to win. Even though Effort was fending off Jangbi's attacks, he really had no chance. You can easily see the incredibly late hive and his inability to get his 5th base AFTER Jangbi got his 5th. Lurkerling maybe awesome for defense, but it doesn't pressure the toss at all. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On December 29 2009 21:46 baubo wrote: If a toss lose 10 drones when he's on 3 base to 4 base, then no, he doesn't gg the next 5 minutes. He'd even have a chance to win. Even though Effort was fending off Jangbi's attacks, he really had no chance. You can easily see the incredibly late hive and his inability to get his 5th base AFTER Jangbi got his 5th. Lurkerling maybe awesome for defense, but it doesn't pressure the toss at all. Yes, this is what happened. You could see it as defending for the sake of defending, not for winning. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
Got Stork Turn Jangbi KHAN on FPL could be better but its ok i guess | ||
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
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Kreedit
Sweden373 Posts
Really interested in what jangbi has to say. | ||
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