[OSL] Ever 2009 OSL - Ro16 - Day 3 - Page 57

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Dice

Korea (South)926 Posts

December 02 2009 12:44 GMT

#1121

Wow.. that one lost costed Flash some serious ELO points..

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

December 02 2009 12:45 GMT

#1122

Oh wow, 15 fucking elo. With his standing that'll take 6 or so straight wins to make up, which is gonna be hard since KT has a hard schedule early on in PL and he's entering the later stages of leagues.

usopsama

6502 Posts

December 02 2009 12:48 GMT

#1123

On December 02 2009 20:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:

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On December 02 2009 20:49 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:46 StorkHwaiting wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:37 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:33 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:32 motbob wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:31 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:29 StylishVODs wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:24 Roffles wrote:
Once again, the lesson learned here is: Scout. Scout, scout, and more scouting. Failure to scout = Lose.

He scouted it in time with comsat.

The lesson learned is that protoss is favoured PvT.

Protoss can sacrifice 1 really early probe to take the gas, put enourmus preassure on terran early on and get still better economy even though terran gets his expansion much faster.
Terran still have to worry about DTs and reaver while protoss is pretty much safe to do what he wants.
Then protoss can just switch to whatever he want like in this case 4-5 stargates carriers and still survive because terran imobility, while expanding at the corners of the map with 1 cannon enough as defense. It's rediculous!

Flash fighting

Bullshit. if Flash scouted that ninja expo for Stork, he wins. He didnt, Stork pumped out way more units that Flash thought was physically possible and had his push broken.
Fantasy woulda punished Stork for taking those expo's, its Flash's fault he never checked for them

So Fantasy would have won that game. Uh huh.

Fantasy wouldn'tve let stork take 60 billion expos, considering his style. Stork probably would've beaten him anyways but Flash needs to learn a little from him and harass once in a while. First vs Best and now vs Stork hes lost cause he lets toss take way to many uncontested bases

There was no opportunity for harass. Stork had his expansions blocked off and cannoned.

There was like 1 cannon... It doesnt take that much to get rid of it and considering the extra troops stork got off that base it would definitely be worth it to invest a little to take that out, that way even if your push fails you accomplished something

Stork had a shuttle the entire time. He's not going to knock down the pylon wall and cannon AND take out the nex before STork can shuttle a few goons over a single cliff. This is the same reason Stork was able to slip 3 goons behind Flash's tanks.

I'm 90% sure i heard the sound of a shuttle dying to turrets when he dropped his first 4 zlots on the initial tanks when he first tried to break the push. did he make a second shuttle? cause i didnt see one after that

God I'm not even going to bother anymore. You're that same dude who thinks spawning pools cost 200 minerals.

Stork wouldn't need to bulldog if Flash sends 1/3rd of his units to try to bust the 3rd!! HELLO!?

Rofl. You're the same person from last night.

Guess what? Pretty much everyone disagree with you. Rofl.

I agree. Someone like you should be banned.

Dice

Korea (South)926 Posts

December 02 2009 12:50 GMT

#1124

On December 02 2009 21:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Oh wow, 15 fucking elo. With his standing that'll take 6 or so straight wins to make up, which is gonna be hard since KT has a hard schedule early on in PL and he's entering the later stages of leagues.

Yeah.. his missed, most likely, the best chance to really send that ELO peak high like the heavens. I was curious to see if he'd set the mark that almost no one could touch but now...

Pyrthas

United States3196 Posts

December 02 2009 12:51 GMT

#1125

On December 02 2009 21:13 motbob wrote:

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Why are you loling? He's right. It's the same logic.

What, no it's not. The drones were already paid for. If you kill a drone, you aren't making the zerg lose 50 minerals. You're making him lose a drone, which might have given him more minerals, gas, or a building in the future. Similarly, when you build a spawning pool, you don't lose 250 minerals; you lose 200 and a drone. Of course, in both cases, it will cost 50 minerals to replace the drone, and you can call that a cost if you want. But it's kind of non-standard, and in any event there's still an obvious use of the word "cost" which lets gngfn consistently say "spawning pools cost 200 minerals" and "that 50-drone kill reaver has cost the zerg a lot."

On topic: FUCK YES STORK.

StorkHwaiting

United States3465 Posts

December 02 2009 13:04 GMT

#1126

On December 02 2009 21:48 usopsama wrote:

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On December 02 2009 20:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:49 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:46 StorkHwaiting wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:37 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:33 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:32 motbob wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:31 Chen wrote:

On December 02 2009 20:29 StylishVODs wrote:
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He scouted it in time with comsat.

The lesson learned is that protoss is favoured PvT.

Protoss can sacrifice 1 really early probe to take the gas, put enourmus preassure on terran early on and get still better economy even though terran gets his expansion much faster.
Terran still have to worry about DTs and reaver while protoss is pretty much safe to do what he wants.
Then protoss can just switch to whatever he want like in this case 4-5 stargates carriers and still survive because terran imobility, while expanding at the corners of the map with 1 cannon enough as defense. It's rediculous!

Flash fighting

So Fantasy would have won that game. Uh huh.

There was no opportunity for harass. Stork had his expansions blocked off and cannoned.

Rofl. You're the same person from last night.

Guess what? Pretty much everyone disagree with you. Rofl.

I agree. Someone like you should be banned.

Yes, ban people because they disagree with you. You're a nice person

No_eL

Chile1438 Posts

December 02 2009 13:10 GMT

#1127

stork its awesome... always made surprises. Until he gets to the finals =(

Emon_

3925 Posts

December 02 2009 13:13 GMT

#1128

I want more Starcraft dammit!!! Those games were inadequate! Jaedong and FBH should play a Bo5 out of nowhere. At 2-2 they will stop and the match-up will resume in a week.

Hope the MSL groups tomorrow are better.

Velr

Switzerland10884 Posts

December 02 2009 13:32 GMT

#1129

Late, late revenge for that lost OSL final to Flash back in the day? (IIRC!)

Karma :D

araav

Armenia1590 Posts

December 02 2009 14:32 GMT

#1130

1/4 lol

Salteador Neo

Andorra5591 Posts

December 02 2009 14:33 GMT

#1131

FUCK YEAH STORKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!

Man he needed that win, its great to see him smile :D

Also pretty cool to see Carriers from Stork vs Goliaths from Flash. Nice nice.

pripple

Finland1714 Posts

December 02 2009 14:38 GMT

#1132

go.go & Hwasin got thrashed, the aceplayers of SKT1 have now both taken lessons from Shine, only good match was Flash vs Stork, but it kinda made up for the others!

Stork was so genuinely happy after that win, it was nice to see ;p

oh btw Shine is now 2-0, we most likely will see Shine at the OSL ro 8, how cool is that? ;<

Salteador Neo

Andorra5591 Posts

December 02 2009 14:44 GMT

#1133

Well Shine is pretty cool

And kinda sad to see terran/Flash fans QQ so much about this game vs Stork. The guy has been an absolute monster every day so dont copy Bisu's whine about map imbalances, its just fair that he finally lost a game xD

Kinky

United States4126 Posts

December 02 2009 14:50 GMT

#1134

All four terrans lost

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United States10328 Posts

December 02 2009 14:52 GMT

#1135

flash

but ... at least stork won't slump now

edit: hopefully...

Kazius

Israel1456 Posts

December 02 2009 15:04 GMT

#1136

On December 02 2009 20:24 Sadistx wrote:
I can't watch this. It's just too disgusting to see how OP protoss is when they take advantage of all their abusive strats in one game and the map favors them too.

Starcraft 2 come soon plz :/

Yes, yes! Oh let me taste your tears Terrans, your tears are so yummy and sweet. Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness. Yummy, yummy you guys!

Heimatloser

Germany1494 Posts

December 02 2009 15:07 GMT

#1137

I hate it when some random noobs come out with not even selfmade strategies to kill the S-Class gamers, because thats what happened IN EVERY D*MN MATCHUP TODAY!!!

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

December 02 2009 15:13 GMT

#1138

On December 03 2009 00:07 Heimatloser wrote:
I hate it when some random noobs come out with not even selfmade strategies to kill the S-Class gamers, because thats what happened IN EVERY D*MN MATCHUP TODAY!!!

Umm... what?