Poll: Who are you rooting for the most? (Vote): Movie (Vote): Pure (Vote): EffOrt (Vote): Stork (Vote): T-Bizzle (Vote): YellOw[ArnC] (Vote): go.go (Vote): Shine
Poll: What does the T in t-bizzle stand for? (Vote): type, as in type-b, duh (Vote): THUG
Poll: How will T-Bizzle deal with playa hata's like Roffles? (Vote): drive by mutas (Vote): he's too G to care
Poll: How sexy is Stork? (Vote): I didn't realize I was gay until now... (Vote): 10/10 dreamboat (Vote): skinny nerd, nothing special here (Vote): half as sexy as Reach (still pretty sexy)
I'll support Pure since he has a chance to take out a random zerg. I don't care who wins between go.go and movie. And I am I a big fan of both Stork and thug bizzle. Don't care too much about effort or shine, whoever wins, a zerg loses.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
Finally a good post :D
Type-B isn't good
How many times has Stork beat type-b, how many times has he lost to bizzle? The way stork's been playing, I'd have to give Stork the upper hand. But type-b is a player you cannot count out as he has already shown he can beat Stork. He has beaten Violet, Best, and Sangho. He also has beaten Leta, fantasy, and Hwasin to achieve a >60% winrate vs T. So yeah, he is good and he's got a shot at beating both Stork and Flash. Anyone who wears a diamond studded bandanna is good.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
Dude, gotta look at the clear picture. If that ain't imbalanced shit, then I don't know what is.
57.7%... I guess Stork just wasn't good enough to overcome that barrier.
Man, we all know that previous stats don't mean SHIT.
Jangbi has a fucking ridiculous W/L ratio vs Yarnc, yet gets raped these days. Nothing about old stats, just current form. And when you're talking current form, Stork is fucking raping. 9 game win streak. Nothing more to be said.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
Dude, gotta look at the clear picture. If that ain't imbalanced shit, then I don't know what is.
57.7%... I guess Stork just wasn't good enough to overcome that barrier.
Man, we all know that previous stats don't mean SHIT.
Jangbi has a fucking ridiculous W/L ratio vs Yarnc, yet gets raped these days. Nothing about old stats, just current form. And when you're talking current form, Stork is fucking raping. 9 game win streak. Nothing more to be said.
And DoctorH, change my stream to exclude Playa Hata. Thanks.
Stork is probably the most liked player of all the progamers. He doesn't have as many fanboys as Flash/JD/Bisu, but none of those fanboys really hate Stork.
On November 27 2009 09:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: Stork is probably the most liked player of all the progamers. He doesn't have as many fanboys as Flash/JD/Bisu, but none of those fanboys really hate Stork.
Maybe because he's given each of them a title. :3
That's so true. He's like everyones second favourite.
On November 27 2009 09:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: Stork is probably the most liked player of all the progamers. He doesn't have as many fanboys as Flash/JD/Bisu, but none of those fanboys really hate Stork.
On November 27 2009 08:41 Roffles wrote: Dude, Stork's in this group. Who cares about some gimmicky zerg named Type-B, T-Bizzle, or whatever shit you wanna call him.
On November 27 2009 09:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: Stork is probably the most liked player of all the progamers. He doesn't have as many fanboys as Flash/JD/Bisu, but none of those fanboys really hate Stork.
Maybe because he's given each of them a title. :3
That's so true. He's like everyones second favourite.
Haha, that's both funny and sad. Even in popularity he takes silver.
On November 27 2009 13:00 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: after watching s2 vs Pure, i'm inclined to say that yarnc could actually beat a protoss.
and if effort loses to shine, then type-b will have a successor. NEW CELL ZERG :O
No way. There can only be one cell. The rest are just prey. Shine will fall before type-b in the very unlikely circumstance that they both move out of ro16. I only wish type-b absorbed some more zergs. His vs. Z is lackluster.
On November 27 2009 13:34 Noah wrote: Some please tell me that it was the OP that called type-b t-bizzle and not himself. Those pictures has to be someone else, right?
By the way, when did Type-b start wear that silly mask decoration around his neck? During an OSL group selection or something? Somebody fill me up please. I am assuming the photo was not PS'ed.
On November 27 2009 14:45 dukethegold wrote: By the way, when did Type-b start wear that silly mask decoration around his neck? During an OSL group selection or something? Somebody fill me up please. I am assuming the photo was not PS'ed.
oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
retarddddd flash will probably beat typeb and if stork loses to typeb/kwanro, he'll go out even if he beats flash.
just go home stork will 3 - 0 his group and throw away that khan banner while ur at it, u no faith bastard
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
retarddddd flash will probably beat typeb and if stork loses to typeb/kwanro, he'll go out even if he beats flash.
just go home stork will 3 - 0 his group and throw away that khan banner while ur at it, u no faith bastard
lol im confused what at your first sentence?
I will sure as hell be happy if Stork 3-0s his group, he is my 2nd favourite player. and just because I like a team doesnt mean I have faith in them or should they affect realistic predictions. oh btw check my FPL
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
retarddddd flash will probably beat typeb and if stork loses to typeb/kwanro, he'll go out even if he beats flash.
just go home stork will 3 - 0 his group and throw away that khan banner while ur at it, u no faith bastard
Stork's been on FIRE lately. With his ridiculous momentum and current form, he looks in good shape to 3-0/2-1 his group and advance.
Type-B and Kwanro are just some gimmicky zergs that are overrated as hell.
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
retarddddd flash will probably beat typeb and if stork loses to typeb/kwanro, he'll go out even if he beats flash.
just go home stork will 3 - 0 his group and throw away that khan banner while ur at it, u no faith bastard
lol im confused what at your first sentence?
I will sure as hell be happy if Stork 3-0s his group, he is my 2nd favourite player. and just because I like a team doesnt mean I have faith in them or should they affect realistic predictions. oh btw check my FPL
u said stork will lose to type b and kwanro, then he will be 1 - 2 in his group if he beats flash. flash will be 2 - 1 in his group then and one of the zergs will be 2 - 1 too, so stork will be out of his group, you were suggesting that he will lose to both typeb and kwanro and still somehow manage to get out of his group, which is just not possible.
lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
retarddddd flash will probably beat typeb and if stork loses to typeb/kwanro, he'll go out even if he beats flash.
just go home stork will 3 - 0 his group and throw away that khan banner while ur at it, u no faith bastard
lol im confused what at your first sentence?
I will sure as hell be happy if Stork 3-0s his group, he is my 2nd favourite player. and just because I like a team doesnt mean I have faith in them or should they affect realistic predictions. oh btw check my FPL
u said stork will lose to type b and kwanro, then he will be 1 - 2 in his group if he beats flash. flash will be 2 - 1 in his group then and one of the zergs will be 2 - 1 too, so stork will be out of his group, you were suggesting that he will lose to both typeb and kwanro and still somehow manage to get out of his group, which is just not possible.
lol, learn to read, where did I ever mention he is getting out of his group, I just said he is going out from the ro16, aka getting eliminated?
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
retarddddd flash will probably beat typeb and if stork loses to typeb/kwanro, he'll go out even if he beats flash.
just go home stork will 3 - 0 his group and throw away that khan banner while ur at it, u no faith bastard
lol im confused what at your first sentence?
I will sure as hell be happy if Stork 3-0s his group, he is my 2nd favourite player. and just because I like a team doesnt mean I have faith in them or should they affect realistic predictions. oh btw check my FPL
u said stork will lose to type b and kwanro, then he will be 1 - 2 in his group if he beats flash. flash will be 2 - 1 in his group then and one of the zergs will be 2 - 1 too, so stork will be out of his group, you were suggesting that he will lose to both typeb and kwanro and still somehow manage to get out of his group, which is just not possible.
lol, learn to read, where did I ever mention he is getting out of his group, I just said he is going out from the ro16, aka getting eliminated?
What you wrote is ambiguous and what u tried to write is worse, this just shows that ur not dumb but really have no faith in stork
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
Kwanro beat Flash/Stork who are bad I suppose, and came back from 0-2 vs a ON FIRE iris that just 3-0d Effort, and only started slumping after Kwanro crushed him.
Its a shame that Jangbi is considered bad though T__T. His PvZ is abysmal, yet his PvP and PvT are still the 2nd best in the world, his PvP is 2nd to Bisu and his PvT is 2nd to Stork.
edit: ok I think we should stop arguing here this is probably going nowhere T__T. Stork should go for the MSL though, the OSL is for JD
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
Kwanro beat Flash/Stork who are bad I suppose, and came back from 0-2 vs a ON FIRE iris that just 3-0d Effort, and only started slumping after Kwanro crushed him.
Its a shame that Jangbi is considered bad though T__T. His PvZ is abysmal, yet his PvP and PvT are still the 2nd best in the world, his PvP is 2nd to Bisu and his PvT is 2nd to Stork.
kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. Who did kwanro beat that effort didn't
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
Kwanro beat Flash/Stork who are bad I suppose, and came back from 0-2 vs a ON FIRE iris that just 3-0d Effort, and only started slumping after Kwanro crushed him.
Its a shame that Jangbi is considered bad though T__T. His PvZ is abysmal, yet his PvP and PvT are still the 2nd best in the world, his PvP is 2nd to Bisu and his PvT is 2nd to Stork.
edit: ok I think we should stop arguing here this is probably going nowhere T__T. Stork should go for the MSL though, the OSL is for JD
I just can't believe ur faith when u have a khan banner, stork is khan. well, 90% stork 10% fbh
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
Kwanro beat Flash/Stork who are bad I suppose, and came back from 0-2 vs a ON FIRE iris that just 3-0d Effort, and only started slumping after Kwanro crushed him.
Its a shame that Jangbi is considered bad though T__T. His PvZ is abysmal, yet his PvP and PvT are still the 2nd best in the world, his PvP is 2nd to Bisu and his PvT is 2nd to Stork.
kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. Who did kwanro beat that effort didn't
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
Kwanro beat Flash/Stork who are bad I suppose, and came back from 0-2 vs a ON FIRE iris that just 3-0d Effort, and only started slumping after Kwanro crushed him.
Its a shame that Jangbi is considered bad though T__T. His PvZ is abysmal, yet his PvP and PvT are still the 2nd best in the world, his PvP is 2nd to Bisu and his PvT is 2nd to Stork.
edit: ok I think we should stop arguing here this is probably going nowhere T__T. Stork should go for the MSL though, the OSL is for JD
I just can't believe ur faith when u have a khan banner, stork is khan. well, 90% stork 10% fbh
Effort lost 0-2 to Flash in WCG Ro16 + 0-3 to Iris in GOM semis. The stame rounds that Kwanro beat both of these players in the final set.
Its okay to have no faith in Khan, it helps your nerves when you watch them play, you still enjoy them winning and cheer them on when they do, but you go meh when you deal with the losses and I enjoy it that way . I would cheer for them to death during the playoffs ^__^, I always believe that they have a chance of winning vs anyone and in any mu, but again... I have a belief that they have a chance of losing against anyone in any mu too T__T. Except Jangbi/Stork PvT which I have faith in no matter how behind they get within a game.
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
Kwanro beat Flash/Stork who are bad I suppose, and came back from 0-2 vs a ON FIRE iris that just 3-0d Effort, and only started slumping after Kwanro crushed him.
Its a shame that Jangbi is considered bad though T__T. His PvZ is abysmal, yet his PvP and PvT are still the 2nd best in the world, his PvP is 2nd to Bisu and his PvT is 2nd to Stork.
kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. Who did kwanro beat that effort didn't
On November 27 2009 15:43 samachking wrote:
On November 27 2009 15:40 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 27 2009 15:38 samachking wrote: lol, if anything kwanro/typeb are severely underrated, kwanro reaches a final defeating a impressive set of players that Effort failed to beat in the same stages and he is still bad, he has strong zvp/zvt/zvz. TypeB is also a really good ZvP player and extremely good ZvBio player(his vMech play sucks), he also reached a semi last season, something stork cant say. Whether you hate them they are good, and underrated, how the fuck is a zerg that is considered universally bad here in TL yet he reached a finals overrated?
calm beat jaedong and effort
kwanro beat a fading iris
not all finalists are considered great. you're actually only considered great if you win a final
i mean look at the respect jangbi is getting and hes a 2 time msl finalist and a gom finalist
Kwanro beat Flash/Stork who are bad I suppose, and came back from 0-2 vs a ON FIRE iris that just 3-0d Effort, and only started slumping after Kwanro crushed him.
Its a shame that Jangbi is considered bad though T__T. His PvZ is abysmal, yet his PvP and PvT are still the 2nd best in the world, his PvP is 2nd to Bisu and his PvT is 2nd to Stork.
edit: ok I think we should stop arguing here this is probably going nowhere T__T. Stork should go for the MSL though, the OSL is for JD
I just can't believe ur faith when u have a khan banner, stork is khan. well, 90% stork 10% fbh
Effort lost 0-2 to Flash in WCG Ro16 + 0-3 to Iris in GOM semis. The stame rounds that Kwanro beat both of these players in the final set.
Its okay to have no faith in Khan, it helps your nerves when you watch them play, you still enjoy them winning and cheer them on when they do, but you go meh when you deal with the losses and I enjoy it that way . I would cheer for them to death during the playoffs ^__^, I always believe that they have a chance of winning vs anyone and in any mu, but again... I have a belief that they have a chance of losing against anyone in any mu too T__T. Except Jangbi/Stork PvT which I have faith in no matter how behind they get within a game.
Its not the same stage anymore if flash or iris didn't beat effort in the msl. But anyways
People should focus less on past statistics and more on the current quality of gameplay for each player. Statistics only work with a lot of context. You can't just say 'X player beat Y player and Z player didn't, so X Player is better than Z player'
Well go.go neither now isnt playing really impressive and Movie's PvT has Always been his best mu so Movie > go.go
Eye of the Storm is 2-5 in favor of protoss...YellOw is playing well, but not like when he reached OSL finals. Pure on the other hand is sucking hard in PL, but i cant throw away the fact that he went 2-0 the last two MSLs where he was actually and underdog YellOw < Pure. I'll just go with my Aiur instinct.
Shine has a 9-6 record in ZvZ which isnt bad at all, but he actually played only some unknown players. I mean yes he did beat HoGiL and yes he did beat HoeJJa but those players are top notch ZvZ. While EffOrt proved over and over again that he is one of the best ZvZ players alive. EffOrt > Shine
T-bizzle is pretty good at ZvP, he destroyed Stork in Bacchus OSL, he won over Violet and so, but he is only 2-1 in october. not that impressive and really hard to say coz he didnt play a lot of games. Stork is 4-1 in october losing to Hyuk while winning over some noobs. Heh, in term of statistics they are pretty equal but i would go with Stork just because of the momentum he has gained going on a 9 games winning streak. Stork > type-b
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
you don't think stork is beating either type-b or kwanro? he will easily beat them unless he gets cheesed. stork has been playing very well recently, you terrible terrible fan!
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
you don't think stork is beating either type-b or kwanro? he will easily beat them unless he gets cheesed. stork has been playing very well recently, you terrible terrible fan!
On November 27 2009 15:24 samachking wrote: oh btw Stork's loss to typeb in andro was due to 3hatling all in. + dont underestimate TypeB's win on heartbreak, it caused a metagame shift in the way the map was played, before his game it was 60+% in P advantage, but after that game it started going down for protoss, he simply played a defensive lurk/ling style with fast defilers/cracks that worked really well vs the goon/ht style P played on that map. I dont think Stork is beating either of Typeb/Kwanro but hell beat flash and still go out at the ro16
My bets: Go.Go>Movie Pure>Yarnc Effort>Shine TypeB>Stork
you don't think stork is beating either type-b or kwanro? he will easily beat them unless he gets cheesed. stork has been playing very well recently, you terrible terrible fan!
Rofl for each time I look over t-bizzles picture it gets even funnier. Those are two of the most epic pictures I've seen in my life. This is taking unintentionally funny to a level I never knew existed. DRIVE BY MUTAS FUCK YEAH!
I have to go to bed before I get tired enough to make him my all time favorite progamer PERSON ever.
Watching Movie play makes me happy. Makes it clear you can be pro with toss without having insane APM as long as you know what you're doing ^o^ (He has ~210 apm)
Wow, after 11 years, I'm still seeing new stuff. go.go tries to get vision of the cannon on the cliff by drawing fire with an scv. Movie orders the cannon to attack a nearby gateway to avoid attacking the scv, denying vision of the cliff from go.go.
On November 27 2009 18:52 EtherealDeath wrote: LOL Day[9] is going homo erotic for Stork XD
Movie?
edit: oh maybe you mean stork playing later
In his stream just now (prior-Supu) he was talking about how Stork has been working out, and how you can lick your fingers and run them down Stork's abs and they will just go "pop" down his rippling abs. (in between game commentary ftw!)
12 oclock expo from Pure is denied. Pure goes to reclaim 9 oclock. Yarnc with a ton of mutas just flying around the map. DT scored a good number of drone kills at the main of Yarnc.
Yarnc tries to kill shit with his mutas in Pure's main, doesn't get anywhere though. Gets a few goons and cannons. Yarnc also playing Sunken defense. Holy this he's got like 10 sunks at each base.
A flood of cracklings moving into Pure's 2 oclock base. Basically nothing Pure can do right now. He GGs to a gay sunken defense strat. What the fuck is this shit.
I hate yarnc's hair and face so so much. Sorry that doesn't have much to do with SC but him and go.go and Leta's faces really annoy me :-\. What is it with Hite Sparkyz and super annoying players??
On November 27 2009 19:25 StorkHwaiting wrote: I hate yarnc's hair and face so so much. Sorry that doesn't have much to do with SC but him and go.go and Leta's faces really annoy me :-\. What is it with Hite Sparkyz and super annoying players??
On November 27 2009 19:25 StorkHwaiting wrote: I hate yarnc's hair and face so so much. Sorry that doesn't have much to do with SC but him and go.go and Leta's faces really annoy me :-\. What is it with Hite Sparkyz and super annoying players??
On November 27 2009 19:25 StorkHwaiting wrote: I hate yarnc's hair and face so so much. Sorry that doesn't have much to do with SC but him and go.go and Leta's faces really annoy me :-\. What is it with Hite Sparkyz and super annoying players??
On November 27 2009 19:25 StorkHwaiting wrote: I hate yarnc's hair and face so so much. Sorry that doesn't have much to do with SC but him and go.go and Leta's faces really annoy me :-\. What is it with Hite Sparkyz and super annoying players??
On November 27 2009 19:55 Chen wrote: was the initial BO 12 hatch vs 12 pool? Correct me if im wrong cause it looked like a BO win from where i started watching
On November 27 2009 19:55 Chen wrote: was the initial BO 12 hatch vs 12 pool? Correct me if im wrong cause it looked like a BO win from where i started watching
effort 9 pool overlord gas, shine 12 pool gas hatch
aggressive use of guardians at six and nine would have at least made stork split his attention, and maybe done some damage if stork got flustered.... but they did nothing and stork got to put all his focus into that game winning push with reavers
Strok is the best protoss right now, what a performance. He's obviously feeling good about himself now losing weight, getting attention and it helps his gameplay.
On November 27 2009 20:38 Waxangel wrote: aggressive use of guardians at six and nine would have at least made focus split his attention, and maybe done some damage if stork got flustered.... but they did nothing and stork got to put all his focus into that game winning push with reavers
On November 27 2009 20:38 Waxangel wrote: aggressive use of guardians at six and nine would have at least made focus split his attention, and maybe done some damage if stork got flustered.... but they did nothing and stork got to put all his focus into that game winning push with reavers
Type-B was too busy defending his natural.
a-move doesn't take more than a second
and don't forget that type-b put the guardians ON HOLD
On November 27 2009 20:38 Waxangel wrote: aggressive use of guardians at six and nine would have at least made focus split his attention, and maybe done some damage if stork got flustered.... but they did nothing and stork got to put all his focus into that game winning push with reavers
On November 27 2009 20:38 Waxangel wrote: aggressive use of guardians at six and nine would have at least made focus split his attention, and maybe done some damage if stork got flustered.... but they did nothing and stork got to put all his focus into that game winning push with reavers
On November 27 2009 20:38 Waxangel wrote: aggressive use of guardians at six and nine would have at least made focus split his attention, and maybe done some damage if stork got flustered.... but they did nothing and stork got to put all his focus into that game winning push with reavers
Type-B was too busy defending his natural.
a-move doesn't take more than a second
and don't forget that type-b put the guardians ON HOLD
Well, don't zergs always hold their guardians so they don't get in range of opposing units?
type-b definitely showed bad multi-tasking, but can you blame him when he needs constant swarms and troop transportation just to not have Stork's entire army ram into his base?
Man, Stork played incredibly. Enough to warrant his status as the best protoss right now. Bisu's PvZ just isn't up to par these days, but Stork has proven that he has what it takes to hang with the swarm these days.
Incredible, confident play from Stork. For a few moments there, I thought he was fucked, as I sat there thinking, "Fuck, another gay turtle zerg". But damn did he prove me wrong there.
On November 27 2009 20:38 Waxangel wrote: aggressive use of guardians at six and nine would have at least made focus split his attention, and maybe done some damage if stork got flustered.... but they did nothing and stork got to put all his focus into that game winning push with reavers
Type-B was too busy defending his natural.
a-move doesn't take more than a second
So why do you think Type-B just froze up?
because he's bad
maybe Type-B was anticipating sairs or other units in Stork's base.
It's gonna be so great to see Stork vs Flash next week, they're the hottest players on the scene at the moment IMO. It's gonna be so epic that it almost deserves it's own hype thread.
I felt as if Stork won just by doing basic unstupid things that every other protoss player seems to screw up these days:
* Actually putting up some defenses in case of a potential hydra all-in * Actually leaving some units with his expansions as they go up, to hold off the inevitable ling+muta raids * Actually getting reavers (and not rushing in with mass zealots or whatever it is other protosses enjoy doing) as soon as the zerg goes into turtle mode
Stork brought out his reebo-dick and shoved it way way up that turtle zerg's ass!!! Whoooo!
And I think Type-B's guardians were being used effectively. Their point was to deny eco, not go on some scorched earth campaign through Stork's base. The guardians had nothing to scout for them. You can't expect Type-B to send them blind roaming through Stork's base. At any moment, a group of goons could come out and rape them. Type-B had them sweep the mineral line and then focus the gas. They did their job disabling two of Stork's expos. It's not like they would have done much more than knock out a nex that already had no probes mining from it. He had a lot more important things to do and the guardians were better off staying there denying rather than risk losing them for the sake of an inactive nex.
And later on, Type-B DID bring back his guardians to try to snipe reavers. They got 2 reavers but were utterly raped by goons in the attempt. And getting more guardians would never have won Type-B the game. Burning that much gas on a unit with such a small timing window of usefulness is not a good idea. GL defending vs Stork's mass speed shuttles with guardians.
On November 27 2009 20:44 Roffles wrote: Man, Stork played incredibly. Enough to warrant his status as the best protoss right now. Bisu's PvZ just isn't up to par these days, but Stork has proven that he has what it takes to hang with the swarm these days.
Incredible, confident play from Stork. For a few moments there, I thought he was fucked, as I sat there thinking, "Fuck, another gay turtle zerg". But damn did he prove me wrong there.
On November 27 2009 20:53 okum wrote: I felt as if Stork won just by doing basic unstupid things that every other protoss player seems to screw up these days:
* Actually putting up some defenses in case of a potential hydra all-in * Actually leaving some units with his expansions as they go up, to hold off the inevitable ling+muta raids * Actually getting reavers (and not rushing in with mass zealots or whatever it is other protosses enjoy doing) as soon as the zerg goes into turtle mode
Wrong. He put up defenses AFTER he scouted the hydra all-in with his corsair. Half the reason he was able to scout it was because of how much he delayed Type-B at the start with probe harass and pylon at nat.
Type B's first hatch was finishing same time as Stork's. And Stork had better probe saturation for another minute afterward. For a hanbang like that, every second counts and Type-B was way behind. Normally, Stork wouldn't have scouted it until it was already at his base and Type-B would have had 1-2 more hydras there. And then Stork had the balls to push out with 3 zlots and just wave back the hydras, buying Stork another 10-15 seconds for his cannons to warp in. It's all about the timing, something your analysis doesn't seem to grasp.
On guarding expos, you really think all the other pro toss players are just too dumb to guard their base?? Think about what's going on during that crucial time period between first and second expo. Templars just coming out, vulnerable to mutas and waiting for storm. Toss is low on minerals due to teching + needing to mass or harass strat to stop ling runbys, 3 hatch hydra all-ins, or 5 hatch hydra timing, etc etc. Min lines still not cannoned up so vulnerable to mutas.
AND the brutal need to get that 2nd expo so these resource issues are alleviated. Yet, if he splits his army and tries to defend nat and second expo, he's vulnerable to zerg pushing with everything at one or the other base. Or sitting back, taking a 4th base, while running muta rape train on templars and main base.
In short, you just don't seem to grasp what the problem is. You talk about your list like all a toss has to do is think of the idea and then it's done, when in fact you're talking about 3 things that are extremely hard to pull off in PvZ.
On November 27 2009 20:53 okum wrote: * Actually getting reavers (and not rushing in with mass zealots or whatever it is other protosses enjoy doing) as soon as the zerg goes into turtle mode
this is the key which i've always mentioned whenever i see turtling Zergs
about time someone finally did this (although it wasn't "as soon as", he only got reavers after type-b started his 4th gas running)
On November 27 2009 20:53 StorkHwaiting wrote: And I think Type-B's guardians were being used effectively. Their point was to deny eco, not go on some scorched earth campaign through Stork's base. The guardians had nothing to scout for them. You can't expect Type-B to send them blind roaming through Stork's base. At any moment, a group of goons could come out and rape them. Type-B had them sweep the mineral line and then focus the gas. They did their job disabling two of Stork's expos. It's not like they would have done much more than knock out a nex that already had no probes mining from it. He had a lot more important things to do and the guardians were better off staying there denying rather than risk losing them for the sake of an inactive nex.
And later on, Type-B DID bring back his guardians to try to snipe reavers. They got 2 reavers but were utterly raped by goons in the attempt. And getting more guardians would never have won Type-B the game. Burning that much gas on a unit with such a small timing window of usefulness is not a good idea. GL defending vs Stork's mass speed shuttles with guardians.
QFT. The guardians had a purpose with being on hold. Stork would when the times was right invest in corsairs and clean it up. He simply decided to give his push forward priority. Great game and go Stork! Can't wait for Stork v. Flash!
They both played great i still think type-b could put his guardians to attack 6 expo he would stop 2 of stork mining bases and would be more interesting but he got in panic i guess with all that army busting his base.
Its understanable only great players can do that under great pressure like stork bisu jeadong zero flash fantasy basicly the S class players and type b is not a S class player
Oh well, nice try type-b. Put up a fight till the end. That was excellent timming on Stork's part. Attacking right when he realizes that all of type-b's big guns are attacking his base and not defending. The one noticible mistake that heavily influened the outcome made by b was the lack of a-move on those guards ad his refusal to give up on natural. He could have traded his main and natural for at least Storks mining base aand natural. As he chose to defend his natural, this mistake is kinda understandably though, since it takes a lot of focus trying to snipe reavers, obs and shuttles with mutas, 2 scourge and lings in that situation.
Yeah, you could say he could also have not wanted to risk it, but had scouting with his scourge in Stork's base so he could have knew there was nothing there an the first corsair would have goten owned by scourge.
Lol, and Shine is still shinning haters. I think Pure is the one overhyped. Lost to Yarnc's ZvP. Lost 1 dt to 1 hydra and ended up failing to take out spire(biggest reason he failed).
On November 27 2009 21:02 StorkHwaiting wrote: In short, you just don't seem to grasp what the problem is. You talk about your list like all a toss has to do is think of the idea and then it's done, when in fact you're talking about 3 things that are extremely hard to pull off in PvZ.
I'm obviously exaggerating... point being that Stork makes it look easy.
Stork played fantastically, don't get me wrong, but seriously. What the HELL, type-b? He could have turned the game around with those guardians, but they just...sat there. For like five full minutes. Doing nothing. It reminded me of watching Flash forget his factory rally point against Leta.
Stork vs Flash is going to be a fantastic game. If I were a betting man, I'd take 75% odds on Stork though, since Flash had trouble with BeSt and Stork is like BeSt except 10x better. We'll have to wait and see, though.
On November 28 2009 00:13 Harpoon wrote: damn. type-b choked. he could've destroyed two expos with those guardians.
Not that simple... if the guardians had gone in, they would have gotten the crap stormed out of them.
He means the other base, the one to the right of the natural that was either undefended (they showed it once with nothing) or very sparsely defended. 6 guards easily coulda either stopped mining or killed the base
On November 27 2009 09:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: Stork is probably the most liked player of all the progamers. He doesn't have as many fanboys as Flash/JD/Bisu, but none of those fanboys really hate Stork.
Maybe because he's given each of them a title. :3
That's so true. He's like everyone's second favourite.
Poll: Of the four, who is your favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
Poll: Who is your second favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
Poll: Who is your third favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
Poll: Who is your least favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
As expected, Stork was leading in the second-place category before the thread met its untimely demise.
Personally, I mildly like Stork. I'll root for him if I don't care about the guy he's playing against. But of everyone who played in last night's games, my favorite is Movie, who has slowly grown on me. It seems to me that he shows the most variety in his games of any (successful) pro-gamer I've seen, which is why I like him.
God, I just watched the type b stork game and it was terrible. All type b did was turtle and his whole game plan was I turtle and attack. Once his defense was broken through, he just completely lost it.
On November 27 2009 09:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: Stork is probably the most liked player of all the progamers. He doesn't have as many fanboys as Flash/JD/Bisu, but none of those fanboys really hate Stork.
Maybe because he's given each of them a title. :3
That's so true. He's like everyone's second favourite.
Poll: Of the four, who is your favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
Poll: Who is your second favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
Poll: Who is your third favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
Poll: Who is your least favorite? (Vote): Bisu (Vote): Flash (Vote): Jaedong (Vote): Stork
As expected, Stork was leading in the second-place category before the thread met its untimely demise.
Personally, I mildly like Stork. I'll root for him if I don't care about the guy he's playing against. But of everyone who played in last night's games, my favorite is Movie, who has slowly grown on me. It seems to me that he shows the most variety in his games of any (successful) pro-gamer I've seen, which is why I like him.
The only thing I see movie doing in a pvt or pvp is a variety of cheese/rush.
You beat Jaedong once... Effort fanboyism is even stronger than I could have imagined o.o
ALSO FUCK YEAH STORK.
(To people saying Type-B wasted his guardians, he essentially DID take out two expansions, given that there was no mining at either. You could argue he could have taken out a THIRD (6 oclock IIRC?) but didn't, but that's it.)
On November 28 2009 08:40 lone_hydra wrote: Stork was always somewhat in form. He is the most consistent player ever. His skill level was always considered A+ to S.
I've NEVER Stork's PvZ looked this good. This might be the first time ever where Stork has mastered all three MUs.
As for consistency, Stork is pretty inconsistent in short bursts. Mainly because he tends to not give a shit about SC at times due to laziness. But I agree that if you look at him long term(and in games that matter), he's always been consistently good.