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Pioneer
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p53
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zazen
Brazil695 Posts
They looked god damn strong last season. But look at their players now. Hiya, BackHo and Lomo are currently underperforming. The second most active player, with 9 games played (while JD has 10 games played) and most used ace player, Killer, have always been, and will always be, very bad. I'm not even going to start on PerfectMan and ggaemo. I'm not a huge fan of MBC (of course, except Sea, who is a true baller) and I'm sad to see things going really wrong for Oz... | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
...good god what happened to JvZ? | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:32 DreaM)XeRO wrote: ..Saint beat Jaedong? ...good god what happened to JvZ? J v Z is still around. But it is known as H vs Z. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On November 11 2009 01:54 vaMpYr wrote: jaedong lost a game , everyone on TL are like little childs . when bisu lost vs a foreigner ( LOL ) when effort lost vs a foreiger ( RE RE LOL ) why we dont talk about bisu or effort slump ? Bisu and Effort lost in IEF. they both pretty much admitted to not caring at all and not practicing for those matches because they DIDNT MATTER. Jaedong is dropping games disturbingly often in proleague, which should be his ONLY focus at this point since he doesnt play an individual league game in quite some time. | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:38 Chen wrote: Bisu and Effort lost in IEF. they both pretty much admitted to not caring at all and not practicing for those matches because they DIDNT MATTER. Jaedong is dropping games disturbingly often in proleague, which should be his ONLY focus at this point since he doesnt play an individual league game in quite some time. agreed. For a looong time Jaedong's ZvZ has been his marquee matchup. (well.. next to his ZvT) Having statistically the best ZvZ in the world as well as a crazy rec vs zerg it is a little worrying when he starts dropping games to 815, Hyuk, Orion, and.. Saint.. Just me but Jaedong's play as of late has been a little sub - Jaedongesque Even that last ACE match win vs Miracle was a little sloppy imo | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:44 DreaM)XeRO wrote: agreed. For a looong time Jaedong's ZvZ has been his marquee matchup. (well.. next to his ZvT) Having statistically the best ZvZ in the world as well as a crazy rec vs zerg it is a little worrying when he starts dropping games to 815, Hyuk, Orion, and.. Saint.. Just me but Jaedong's play as of late has been a little sub - Jaedongesque Even that last ACE match win vs Miracle was a little sloppy imo sloppy...? JD raped, harassed and expoed against a successful 14cc terran. A game cant be more dominating than JD vs Miracle. | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
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Sigrun
United States1654 Posts
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:30 zazen wrote: They looked god damn strong last season. But look at their players now. Hiya, BackHo and Lomo are currently underperforming. The second most active player, with 9 games played (while JD has 10 games played) and most used ace player, Killer, have always been, and will always be, very bad. I'm not even going to start on PerfectMan and ggaemo. I'm not a huge fan of MBC (of course, except Sea, who is a true baller) and I'm sad to see things going really wrong for Oz... BackHo, HiyA, and Lomo are underperforming no doubt, but not nearly as much as your post seems to suggest. Fact is that BackHo, HiyA and Lomo, despite appearing in the vast majority of Oz's matches last season, were never great performers. In fact, not one of them had a winning record in the 08-09 PL: ![[image loading]](/staff/JWD/misc/ozsucks2.jpg) ![[image loading]](/staff/JWD/misc/ozsucks3.jpg) (forgive the tooltips) These numbers tell the story of Oz's 08-09 season: BackHo, HiyA, and Lomo did just well enough to allow Oz to take matches to their 5sets, where Jaedong would take control. Nobody else made any impact (the concentration of appearances amongst these 4 players is just shocking). And, because Jaedong had an absurd winrate, Oz did well enough to snag a playoff seed. With this understanding of Oz's 08-09 season, it's easy to see why anything short of godliness from JD would doom them to failure: they don't have any other players who can win consistently, and they didn't develop any new talent last season. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
 what a breakdown JWD. but i dont think it was necessary. JD always won. then hiya lomo backho scratched a win and JD took home the ace match | ||
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On November 11 2009 06:39 pripple wrote: what worries me most is what Plexatide wrote in the recent Backseat Broodwar, watching all the teams being happy when one of their players win and watching Oz guys being totally dead even if they win, something is very wrong at the hwaseung house ;< Yeah, I just rewatched JD vs Miracle, Oz sure didnt look like a team who has just won an important match. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
On November 11 2009 07:16 n.DieJokes wrote: Wow, Jaedong lost to Saint... This only makes his prior dominance of the MU even more astounding, to think that Jaedong could dominate a mu where a player like Jaedong could lose to Saint is the most impressive feat in the history of starcraft. <3 LJD Wow. This is just embarrassing man. Even in defeat the fanboyism doesn't go away.  | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
CONSPIRACY I SAY!!! | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
On November 11 2009 07:27 vnlegend wrote: Wow. This is just embarrassing man. Even in defeat the fanboyism doesn't go away. Its the difference between a fanboy and a true fan | ||
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