EPTOn November 01 2009 14:30 p53 wrote:
Are you saying that from experience as an Oz fan?
Are you saying that from experience as an Oz fan?
At least Killer's won an epic game before.
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
At least Killer's won an epic game before. | ||
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:31 Musoeun wrote: Well, I really think... it's not that bad. Yes, his late game control and macro are lacking. Yes he could have done more damage with his follow-up attacks and harass after the initial cheese. Most importantly, he really should have done more to abuse recall instead of suiciding a couple times and giving up. But, Really did play it completely right, with vulture raids to get back in the game and slow push expansions. Once he got his third up he was back in the game in macro-mode which is what he does best, and we all know about maxed Terran armies, right? He played badly. He didn't get upgrades. He didn't have obs at the right spot. He didn't use arbitors effectively. He fought in bad places, and 1a2a3a4a5a in a line. He didn't attack when Really had 3 tanks and vult. He made terrible decisions after gaining a decisive advantage. | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:29 fearus wrote: such a terrible map Definitely a fanboy of bisu Even protoss favored maps are "terrible." not going to blame it on how the P played either. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:34 Balfazar wrote: It's terrible from Brave because he could have won and decided not to, he had an observer and saw Really's 4-5 tanks without vultures or mines and decided to lose instead of walking over them with his 3 control groups of goons. I think it was more like 1 control of goons, for which 4-5 tanks plus SCVs plus close reinforcements would actually be kind of a threat. But I'd have to watch the replay again (wasn't paying attention) to be sure. EDIT: To be clear, he probably could have walked over it anyway, or at least done significant damage, but I don't think it was quite as clear-cut. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:35 Wala.Revolution wrote: He played badly. He didn't get upgrades. He didn't have obs at the right spot. He didn't use arbitors effectively. He fought in bad places, and 1a2a3a4a5a in a line. He made terrible decisions after gaining a decisive advantage. But hopefully, as a newcomer he'll learn and become like Stork and Jangbi. He didn't attack when Really had 3 tanks and vult. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:36 konadora wrote: MY BROTHER! wut? | ||
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Rainmaker5
United States1027 Posts
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:35 Musoeun wrote: I think it was more like 1 control of goons, for which 4-5 tanks plus SCVs plus close reinforcements would actually be kind of a threat. But I'd have to watch the replay again (wasn't paying attention) to be sure. It was at least 20 dragoons at that point, against 4-5 tanks. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:34 Balfazar wrote: It's terrible from Brave because he could have won and decided not to, he had an observer and saw Really's 4-5 tanks without vultures or mines and decided to lose instead of walking over them with his 3 control groups of goons. I don't think he would've won. Really probably would've scv drilled his goons and they would be attacking through an already extremely narrow path. | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:35 Musoeun wrote: I think it was more like 1 control of goons, for which 4-5 tanks plus SCVs plus close reinforcements would actually be kind of a threat. But I'd have to watch the replay again (wasn't paying attention) to be sure. It was around 2 control groups of goons vs 4 tanks and 2 goliaths. If Really had pulled SCVs in time he could have held maybe. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:31 Killer Instinct wrote: Ummm , against a 3/3 terran ? I think they are important. When siege tanks do 85 damage, -3 damage on just armor isn't going to do much. Think about it logically. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
Flying starting at 12 in yellow, Hades/great at 4 in white | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:38 deathgod6 wrote: When siege tanks do 85 damage, -3 damage on just armor isn't going to do much. Think about it logically. Well letting Really macro and get 3/3.. And the fact that his storms were terrible. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On November 01 2009 14:38 deathgod6 wrote: When siege tanks do 85 damage, -3 damage on just armor isn't going to do much. Think about it logically. Sure, maybe the armor isn't as important, but the attack still is. If it's worth it for terran to upgrade his units' armor, surely it's worth it for Protoss to upgrade weapons. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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