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isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
November 01 2009 08:57 GMT
#681
On November 01 2009 16:44 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 16:26 Xiao-Bing wrote:
Although I'm an SKT1 fan, It just makes me to see Bisu fail. (Due to the Bisu interview)

No you're not, fuck you!

KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
November 01 2009 09:12 GMT
#682
i doubt we are going to get to see any vods.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 01 2009 09:23 GMT
#683
On November 01 2009 11:25 zoLo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 10:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Korea is not happy about this: http://admin09.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=100538&db=issue

lol @ bisu's face.

Haha I love some of the comments, a few koreans called the progammers retarded idiots.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51559 Posts
November 01 2009 10:38 GMT
#684
I really can't wait for the VODs, the Korean commentators went nuts over the White-Ra Boxer game.
Commentator
Juubi
Profile Joined November 2009
United States14 Posts
November 01 2009 10:41 GMT
#685
we're gonna feel the wrath at WCG
Ten
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 01 2009 11:00 GMT
#686
So Korean professional players losing to foreigners in an event tournament is a disaster now? Not to take any credits away from White-ra or those who won against the Koreans, but it's kinda reasonably understanable that Bisu or Effort didn't practice or take these games seriously. They went in with basics, and foreigners happened to have caught up with that basic level of skill. If anything, I would feel happy for the non-Korean SC community, not hatred towards the pros. I don't quite understand why the Korean community is making a big fuss about this.

So Idra made 3rd, Effort was CJ's ace but disqualified. Conclusion, Idra deserves a regular post in CJ's lineup.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 01 2009 11:15 GMT
#687
um so foreigners (chinese) can beat pros in bo-1's sometimes? big deal?
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
November 01 2009 11:25 GMT
#688
On November 01 2009 20:15 hifriend wrote:
um so foreigners (chinese) can beat pros in bo-1's sometimes? big deal?


I don't think anybody is arguing this is the biggest, most earth-shattering event in SC history. But upsets are always amusing. And with WCG around the corner there might be more.

No more. No less.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-01 11:29:58
November 01 2009 11:26 GMT
#689
On November 01 2009 20:15 hifriend wrote:
um so foreigners (chinese) can beat pros in bo-1's sometimes? big deal?


Given how the landscape looks currently, the foreigners shouldn't be able to beat the progamers at all if they play seriously. There simply should be too much of a difference for that to be possible. And if the programers play less seriously, like they would at a tournament like IEF, the best foreigners should be able to beat them maybe one in twenty games.

The assumption above is kind of shaken by Koreans losing one fourth of all their games at this event. I think many peole enjoy the fact that the Koreans are good, and unimpressive foreigners beating them just seems wrong. It certainly makes the Korean scene seem less glamourous. The Chinese, to my knowledge, aren't better than the top10 foreigners, so that shouldn't be what's making the difference.

So, yes, it is quite a big deal. Exciting and terrifying at the same time. I was really hoping that Boxer, like Savior, could use this tournament as a change to showcases his raw skills, just like Savior has done well in foreign tournaments. It should seem obvious that even if Boxer's skill is below average programers at the moment, it should still be miles away from the foreigners, allowing him to have the surplus to show us a bit of his magic and create some fun games.

In the end, it would be good to have foreigners on the same level as the Koreans as it would create a better international scene and, of course, make for more great games. It's just that at the moment the foreigners aren't good, so that hasn't really changed.

The great part is that the Koreans will take WCG more seriously. However, most likely, then it will only be a repeat of last year. Still, I enjoyed some of the one-sided game, liking how it exposed an entirely different way of relating to the mechanics of the game between foreigners and the best Koreans.
I am not sure what to say
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
November 01 2009 12:06 GMT
#690
http://scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n03&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=672
http://scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n03&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=673
...new stuff on scforall.com
화이팅
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
November 01 2009 12:33 GMT
#691
This has probably been discussed earlier in this thread, but i cant seem to find it (have been looking for hours and hours...) - in the results it says that ret went 1-1 , how can that be so? Dont we have all the results from all the games, or did he not show up to some of the games? W/O?
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 01 2009 12:39 GMT
#692
wow, stork keeps owning tournaments outside of korea. his play is obviously very solid
Brood War loyalist
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 01 2009 12:46 GMT
#693
On November 01 2009 21:39 meegrean wrote:
wow, stork keeps owning tournaments outside of korea. his play is obviously very solid

*sob* stork *sob*
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
November 01 2009 12:51 GMT
#694
holy shit at idra interview ahha
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 01 2009 12:59 GMT
#695
On November 01 2009 16:44 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 16:26 Xiao-Bing wrote:
Although I'm an SKT1 fan, It just makes me to see Bisu fail. (Due to the Bisu interview)

No you're not, fuck you!

lol
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
November 01 2009 13:06 GMT
#696
I'm so glad for White-rA he is my absolute favorite foreign toss!

He looked so happy after he won vs Boxer I have bene smilign for ages now, very well done.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
November 01 2009 13:11 GMT
#697
No, the foreigners never caught up with basic skills. Bisu and effort play at 50% like an Iccup or bnet game, its possible to beat them like this, everybody starts with 4 workers like football 11 players. Its not a big deal. Effort was amused and wanted to raise his game thats why ask for bo3.
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
November 01 2009 13:51 GMT
#698
Stork dosen't play around with foreigners at all. I hope that he wins this WCG.
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
Herro_Korea
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
310 Posts
November 01 2009 13:59 GMT
#699
White-Ra so happy after taking game away from Boxer, wow :D
(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
November 01 2009 14:00 GMT
#700
On November 01 2009 16:26 Xiao-Bing wrote:
Although I'm an SKT1 fan, It just makes me to see Bisu fail. (Due to the Bisu interview)


Take that icon down!
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
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