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Poll: Who will be victorious today?
(Vote): SK Telecom T1
(Vote): MBCGame HERO
Poll: Who do you hope will win?
(Vote): SK Telecom T1
(Vote): MBCGame HERO
Poll: Is Hyuk bonjwa?
(Vote): Fuck yeah Hyuk!
(Vote): If Hyuk is bonjwa, so is Hyun.
(Vote): Bisu is the bonjwa!!111!one1
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Hyuk is going to Hyuk his way to victory for T1!!! Was hoping Bisu would play har har har!
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Bisu on banner but no Bisu on lineup 
Hyuk's ZvT will be tested.
I may have to watch both channels simultaneously because KT Rolster vs KHAN looks good too =D
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Hyuk bonjwa, definitely. 
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I did not expect such favorable matchups for MBC. There's a solid chance they take this 3-1(Pusan dropping).
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Yeah, the matchup seems really good for MBC.
My guess is either 3-0 MBC or 3-2 SKT (or 3-2 MBC potentially if Bisu doesn't want to play his old team).
Predictions:
Fantasy < Saint - I like Fantasy, but he's really inconsistent against non-Jaedong zergs.
Hyuk < Sea - Yes I love Hyuk. But this is a bad matchup for Hyuk on an even worse map. Barring some epic cheese coming from the hivemind that is SKT coaching, Sea should win easy. And even if Hyuk cheeses a lead, he could easily throw it away by suiciding his army or something.
Best > Pusan - Best has produced some good games recently (both on the winning and losing end). I'm excited about this game, and hope that he can pull out a victory.
Canata > Light - I overrate Canata's TvT. But unless Fantasy and Best can both manage to not screw up their games, this is SKT's best shot at an ace game.
Bisu > Anyone - Let's face it. It's Bisu. There is no one on MBC that could reasonably not be the underdog against him.
OR
Fantasy > Sea - To be honest, I don't see why MBC would send one of their Terran aces if it gets this far. If SKT sends Bisu, their chances are slim-to-none anyway. Their best shot would be maximizing their ability to beat the alternative option, which is most likely Fantasy or Canata, both of which are way better at TvT than TvZ. So, if MBC is thinking this way (which they probably aren't, seeing as I'm sleep deprived and coming up with stupid predictions), the match will probably be:
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Yeah, pretty abysmal chances for MBC here. The only path to victory I can see for them is Saint > Fantasy, Sea > Hyuk, and Light > Canata for a 3-1 win, and that's a pretty small chance.
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Game1 Fantasy vs Saint
Fantasy is the favorite here, but given his recent games, and also the fact that Saint sometimes plays wonderfully solid, this game is less one-sided than most would think. I think Fantasy will take this one, but I wouldn't that upset if Saint pulled it on this one.
Game2: Hyuk vs Sea
Hyuk is sort of the new zerg sensation, and winning this game could definitely earn him some respect aside from the respect that comes from fanboys. I honestly think he can pull this one, unless Sea summons his former self to play for him.
Game3: BeSt vs Pusan
Pusan refuses to fade away like almost all of his generation peers, and he truly shows why he is called "The Spirit". However he is matched against one of the best representatives of modern macro toss, although he is not in his best shape. Best has the edge on this, but I really hope to see Pusan old-school BeSt.
It should end 3-0, but hath one of the T1 players fail, we will be facing a terribly boring TvT. If Dimlight wins, we will have either Fantasy or Bisu step up, and I don't think any of them will fail to deliver in that position.
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Can't beleive people are writing off pusan so badly =/
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Sea over hyuk? possible, but I think that hyuk will crush sea since he has momentum
Pusan will take best, since pusan has momentum and a sick pvp (so does best, but meh!)
Light should take canata as well
So then we come to ace and ugh =/ I have no idea light vs bisu probably
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prepare to all get banned for saying the b-word!
No bisu? getting punished for losing in the osl obv.
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On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Can't beleive people are writing off pusan so badly =/
not to disrespect the old players but he currently sucks lolol
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On October 20 2009 17:59 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Can't beleive people are writing off pusan so badly =/
not to disrespect the old players but he currently sucks lolol
Making the Ro16 means you suck eh?
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On October 20 2009 17:59 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Can't beleive people are writing off pusan so badly =/
not to disrespect the old players but he currently sucks lolol
did you watch OSL?
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lol @ the photoshop text, what you did is the most basic stuff like selecting a CC in starcraft, you really cant go wrong with that. Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
My predictions:
fantasy < Outsider SE > Saint
Hyuk < Moon Glaive > Sea
BeSt < Heartbreak Ridge > Pusan
Canata < Fighting Spirit > Light
Bisu or Fanta < Tornado > I dont even know : /
SK Telecom T1 < 3 - 2 > MBCGame HERO
and lols at Pusan sucking, i wouldnt call going 17-1 "sucking"
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On October 20 2009 18:11 KasPra wrote:
Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
you have no idea how wrong you are
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On October 20 2009 18:13 Itachii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:11 KasPra wrote:
Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
you have no idea how wrong you are
Honestly, all the people who have done the OPs for the last year ive been visiting this site are really beginners. I've been designing and working with photoshop for 4 years and really, if there was something like iccup for photoshop, everyone here would have like 0 points D-
edit: sorry for OT
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On October 20 2009 18:09 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 17:59 disciple wrote:On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Can't beleive people are writing off pusan so badly =/
not to disrespect the old players but he currently sucks lolol Making the Ro16 means you suck eh?
I like Pusan, but beating forgg and canata's TvPs aren't exactly the same as Best's PvP.
The last time I remember watching Pusan PvP was him playing against Stork a while back. Just looked outclassed.
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On October 20 2009 18:16 KasPra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:13 Itachii wrote:On October 20 2009 18:11 KasPra wrote:
Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
you have no idea how wrong you are Honestly, all the people who have done the OPs for the last year ive been visiting this site are really beginners. I've been designing and working with photoshop for 4 years and really, if there was something like iccup for photoshop, everyone here would have like 0 points D- edit: sorry for OT
lol you have no idea what you are talking about in comparision with the graphics staff.
they are like olympic rank in photoshop
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On October 20 2009 18:16 KasPra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:13 Itachii wrote:On October 20 2009 18:11 KasPra wrote:
Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
you have no idea how wrong you are Honestly, all the people who have done the OPs for the last year ive been visiting this site are really beginners. I've been designing and working with photoshop for 4 years and really, if there was something like iccup for photoshop, everyone here would have like 0 points D- edit: sorry for OT
you do it then
don't disrespect the work people put into the OPs (not talking about me, but people like Disciple and Realpenguin who put in quite some effort into their OPs)
and you forgot the graphics team
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On October 20 2009 18:16 KasPra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:13 Itachii wrote:On October 20 2009 18:11 KasPra wrote:
Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
you have no idea how wrong you are Honestly, all the people who have done the OPs for the last year ive been visiting this site are really beginners. I've been designing and working with photoshop for 4 years and really, if there was something like iccup for photoshop, everyone here would have like 0 points D- edit: sorry for OT
Well, they often produce more than one OP per week. Tight deadlines and all. Why don't we see some of your work?
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thread for kt vs samsung please
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I was just referring to the recent debate about the skill of the old players, but meh you got trolled
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On October 20 2009 17:59 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Can't beleive people are writing off pusan so badly =/
not to disrespect the old players but he currently sucks lolol
Thou shall not underestimate The Spirit.
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If Hyuk wins with Sea today, iam trading Effort for him!
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This'll be a pretty good opportunity to see just how good Bisu's supporting cast is on SKT, since other than Hyuk, they've been have a tough time of it lately.
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This is for you, Plexa
Pusan interview, live:
Kingdom: You made a comeback in this OSL.
Pusan: I practiced at home, and I have only entered the Round of 16 and so many are praising me already. But I feel it's not enough. I have to end my losing streak in Proleague as well.
Kingdom: So you mean, you have too much you have to make up for?
Pusan: No.. I mean so many people are praising me when I've only made it into the Round of 16 so...
Kingdom: Ah, I see. People are also saying that you're showing signs of your former self.
Pusan: They shouldn't say that. They should say that I've upgraded.
Kingdom: *some question, missed*
Pusan: I want to have a macro fight-out with BeSt.
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On October 20 2009 18:21 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:16 KasPra wrote:On October 20 2009 18:13 Itachii wrote:On October 20 2009 18:11 KasPra wrote:
Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
you have no idea how wrong you are Honestly, all the people who have done the OPs for the last year ive been visiting this site are really beginners. I've been designing and working with photoshop for 4 years and really, if there was something like iccup for photoshop, everyone here would have like 0 points D- edit: sorry for OT you do it then don't disrespect the work people put into the OPs (not talking about me, but people like Disciple and Realpenguin who put in quite some effort into their OPs) and you forgot the graphics team
Did i disrespect them? Im just stating that the level of gfx here is beginnerish, its okay for people who dont visit design sites and dont know much about it, which isnt bad so they serve theire purpose quite OK.
For example, this banner - link its not good at all (to me, and problably to people who have design-related jobs), it looks really beginnerish and messy but to most people, its just a cool banner. So its ok, i didnt want to disrespect anyone or anything, just wanted to reply to Itachii who said im wrong.
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Konadora, of all your contributions to TL, stream with no k-pop is the best <3
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Pusan is actually playing really well these days. I fear for best, but believe in Fantasy/Hyuk/Canata. SKT FIGHTING!
Edit: As much as I like Sea, sorry, this is SKT.
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bisu weekly mvp lol
how many weekly mvp awards did he get awarded already?
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FUCK YEAH BISU
wait hes not playing today -_-
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Ban hammer is swift and mighty
<3 kona thanks for all your hard work
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On October 20 2009 18:29 KasPra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:21 konadora wrote:On October 20 2009 18:16 KasPra wrote:On October 20 2009 18:13 Itachii wrote:On October 20 2009 18:11 KasPra wrote:
Noone on TL.net is good at photoshop anyway so dont apologise. : )
you have no idea how wrong you are Honestly, all the people who have done the OPs for the last year ive been visiting this site are really beginners. I've been designing and working with photoshop for 4 years and really, if there was something like iccup for photoshop, everyone here would have like 0 points D- edit: sorry for OT you do it then don't disrespect the work people put into the OPs (not talking about me, but people like Disciple and Realpenguin who put in quite some effort into their OPs) and you forgot the graphics team Did i disrespect them? Im just stating that the level of gfx here is beginnerish, its okay for people who dont visit design sites and dont know much about it, which isnt bad so they serve theire purpose quite OK. For example, this banner - link its not good at all (to me, and problably to people who have design-related jobs), it looks really beginnerish and messy but to most people, its just a cool banner. So its ok, i didnt want to disrespect anyone or anything, just wanted to reply to Itachii who said im wrong.
I wont say that nobody here is a skilled designer, there are a couple of guys at the gfx team that are very talented but not that active recently, but even so I dont see a reason you should bring the professionalism of the work here into question. Most of the ppl here are doing what they are doing only from good will. I dont think my stuff is great, but hell, I'm an econ student who started photoshoping just one year ago as a hobby.
with that being said if you are working in photoshop for 4 years I dont really need to see your stuff to tell you that YOU FUCKING SUCK at PS. 9 Billion Kids are doing photoshop today. The really good ones are coming from art schools and academies. The skill gap between the D and D+ when it comes to gfx is huge. Now gtfo. I cant believe a guy with 4 years experience in photoshop will come here and teach us design
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On October 20 2009 18:34 konadora wrote:
bisu weekly mvp lol
how many weekly mvp awards did he get awarded already?
what is mvp?
edit: most valuable player?
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This new uniform is such an eyesore.
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why is everyone thinking hyuk will win sea??
the guy has shown great moves true but he is still 15% in the match up
and sea in proleague is as stable as ever
than why??
lol weird.....
and canata will wipe the floor with light 3-1 to skt with sea taking 1
maybe pusan vs best will be good
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On October 20 2009 18:38 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:34 konadora wrote:
bisu weekly mvp lol
how many weekly mvp awards did he get awarded already? what is mvp?
 MVP
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On October 20 2009 18:30 TheAntZ wrote:
Konadora, of all your contributions to TL, stream with no k-pop is the best <3
Everything whiteout K-Pop is better... Even Kpop.
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On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Wait, wait, wait... are you saying you think Fantasy has the best TvZ in the world?
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On October 20 2009 18:40 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Wait, wait, wait... are you saying you think Fantasy has the best TvZ in the world?
Well he does 
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Jaehoon looking ridiculous, haha.
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I bet even Satan cries when he listens to Kpop
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On October 20 2009 18:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I bet even Satan cries when he listens to Kpop
Why would he cry? It's one of his more sinister inventions.
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is mvp awards weekly or what?
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On October 20 2009 18:41 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:40 Holgerius wrote:On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Wait, wait, wait... are you saying you think Fantasy has the best TvZ in the world? Well he does
LOL! AHAHAHA! If really hope you do not believe that. A guy who can't do proper bio control even if his life depended on it, has a 51% win rate, and loses constantly to guys like Hogil is the best TvZ player in the world?
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Who ever is supplying the VLC stream...
a big THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
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On October 20 2009 18:43 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I bet even Satan cries when he listens to Kpop Why would he cry? It's one of his more sinister inventions.
tears of joy at his own genius?
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On October 20 2009 18:45 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Who ever is supplying the VLC stream...
a big THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
OGN?
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Kind of off topic but wow, Hyuk has got to have the worst ZvT record out there for a guy who's being played so much in the Proleague.
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On October 20 2009 18:46 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:43 Jyvblamo wrote:On October 20 2009 18:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I bet even Satan cries when he listens to Kpop Why would he cry? It's one of his more sinister inventions. tears of joy at his own genius?
I thought he might be crying because even he couldn't stand it at long intervals.
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holy crap, what on earth was that
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MBC players love dying their hair
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lol but Bisu shot instantly after MBC players, makes MBC players look ugly
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Completely unnecessary scourge losses, sloppy.
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On October 20 2009 18:47 Chrispy wrote:
Kind of off topic but wow, Hyuk has got to have the worst ZvT record out there for a guy who's being played so much in the Proleague.
Well, that's because last season was a complete disaster for all SKT zergs, Hyuk included. Let's say that he is sort of having a fresh start this season.
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lol how could he fail to do any more damage.
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that was super cute timing from fantasy
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On October 20 2009 18:45 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:41 Piste wrote:On October 20 2009 18:40 Holgerius wrote:On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Wait, wait, wait... are you saying you think Fantasy has the best TvZ in the world? Well he does LOL! AHAHAHA! If really hope you do not believe that. A guy who can't do proper bio control even if his life depended on it, has a 51% win rate, and loses constantly to guys like Hogil is the best TvZ player in the world?
hogil is the best zvt
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YEAH FANTASY RAPING SHIT IN SAINT'S MAIN
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Wow that went into place so perfectly holy crap.
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Fantasy is all out of gum.
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Bio TvZ's the shit, fuck yeah
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Camera shows 6 sunkens at the natural, haha.
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What the fuck is Saint doing this game? He has no fighting units at all except for a few mutas...
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I can't decide if fanta has nice bio, or saint just sucks.
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Fantasy is about to drop the hammer.
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On October 20 2009 18:58 cascades wrote:
I can't decide if fanta has nice bio, or saint just sucks.
Saint has literally nothing and left his main completely open for a drop.
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d-matrixed firebat > saint
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wow.. where did firebathero come from!
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oh my god that was fucking sick.
fantasy FTMFW
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That D-Matrixed firebat was kinda sexy <3
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Lol fanta's goofy google shot. Don't think he will live it down.
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The whole game reminded me so much of Boxer's old sexiness.
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will hyuk continue his monster streak? stay tuned
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That was an awful game by Saint. My eyes hurt.
What did he intend to put under those dark swarms?
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Hyuk is still only 1-9 in his last 10 ZvTs, not counting prelims or the STX cup (lol). :\
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What we saw here is Fantasy crushing saint more than lomo is crushing on Jaedong.
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On October 20 2009 19:03 Jyvblamo wrote:
Hyuk is still only 1-9 in his last 10 ZvTs, not counting prelims. :\
Hyuk will prevail. Never underestimate the genius that is his Hyukness.
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On October 20 2009 18:45 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:41 Piste wrote:On October 20 2009 18:40 Holgerius wrote:On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Wait, wait, wait... are you saying you think Fantasy has the best TvZ in the world? Well he does LOL! AHAHAHA! If really hope you do not believe that. A guy who can't do proper bio control even if his life depended on it, has a 51% win rate, and loses constantly to guys like Hogil is the best TvZ player in the world?
Well thats easy and logical !
Yarnc (non slumping) has probably the best ZvT < lost to Jaedong in OSL final < lost to Fantasy in SPL Final twice => thus Fantasy>Yarnc => Fantasy best TvZ in the World
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On October 20 2009 19:05 konadora wrote:
game recommend-worthy?
Hell yeah.
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On October 20 2009 19:05 konadora wrote:
game recommend-worthy?
Kinda. Saint sucked and Fantasy showed some sweet SV and dropship play... so it became one sided very quickly.
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Sea says he has grown taller lol
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Hyuk you sexy mofo, finish this fast please <3
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they pushed back big ramp
woot
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finally found out who made those horrible uniforms for mbc.
lesmore, a korean shoe selling company -_-
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On October 20 2009 19:04 Jakalo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 18:45 Holgerius wrote:On October 20 2009 18:41 Piste wrote:On October 20 2009 18:40 Holgerius wrote:On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Wait, wait, wait... are you saying you think Fantasy has the best TvZ in the world? Well he does LOL! AHAHAHA! If really hope you do not believe that. A guy who can't do proper bio control even if his life depended on it, has a 51% win rate, and loses constantly to guys like Hogil is the best TvZ player in the world? Well thats easy and logical ! Yarnc (non slumping) has probably the best ZvT < lost to Jaedong in OSL final < lost to Fantasy in SPL Final twice => thus Fantasy>Yarnc => Fantasy best TvZ in the World
Now that's not very logical at all. That was like antilogic.
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Hyuk taking ninja third after putting up his spire in standard 2hatch timing.
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Sea with a terrible mnm micro losing more than he should to mutas.
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attention, Hyuk incoming...
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Sea playing with blacked-out mini-map.
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Sea will NEVER spot that 2nd expo until it's too late
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Is there any Huyk fanclub at TL?^^
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On October 20 2009 19:20 iRRelevance wrote:
Sea playing with blacked-out mini-map.
Yea wtf??
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On October 20 2009 19:21 Itachii wrote:
Is there any Huyk fanclub at TL?^^
Send me $20 and I'll make you a member.
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its good to see bio tvzs
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God Hyuk thinks he's Jaedong.
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Not 1 sunken anywhere for Hyuk.
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wtf is going on with greater spires today?
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Hyuk = blacked out map also?!
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Both with hide terrain mini maps. Is that popular these days?
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Arent guardians great guys?
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On October 20 2009 19:23 thunk wrote:
God Hyuk thinks he's Jaedong.
Hes better than that
just not today
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Greater spire = loss
Proven by Jaedong
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Hyuk even playing great spire like Jaedong.
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On October 20 2009 19:25 LCC wrote:
Both with hide terrain mini maps. Is that popular these days?
Must be ... thou I can't see shit when I do that.
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where on earth was the defense hyuk?
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On October 20 2009 19:17 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 19:04 Jakalo wrote:On October 20 2009 18:45 Holgerius wrote:On October 20 2009 18:41 Piste wrote:On October 20 2009 18:40 Holgerius wrote:On October 20 2009 17:44 Plexa wrote:
Fantasy will smash saint, saint is terrible at ZvT while Fantasy has the best in the world
Wait, wait, wait... are you saying you think Fantasy has the best TvZ in the world? Well he does LOL! AHAHAHA! If really hope you do not believe that. A guy who can't do proper bio control even if his life depended on it, has a 51% win rate, and loses constantly to guys like Hogil is the best TvZ player in the world? Well thats easy and logical ! Yarnc (non slumping) has probably the best ZvT < lost to Jaedong in OSL final < lost to Fantasy in SPL Final twice => thus Fantasy>Yarnc => Fantasy best TvZ in the World Now that's not very logical at all. That was like antilogic.
Well I couldnt be arsed to try more as I am Flash fanboy anyway
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On October 20 2009 19:27 konadora wrote:
HYUK IS NOT SLUMPING
maybe he is a streaky zerg like Zero/Lux?
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On October 20 2009 19:26 konadora wrote:
Greater spire = loss
Proven by Jaedong
its proven by 2 zerg bonjwas now, don't think we will ever see it again
unless TheZerg trys something with it
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On October 20 2009 19:27 konadora wrote:
HYUK IS NOT SLUMPING
He's playing as good as he ever did!
If there's one thing I can count on Hyuk for, it's inconsistency.
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On October 20 2009 19:27 konadora wrote:
HYUK IS NOT SLUMPING
Hyuk is past his prime. He'll never dominate again like his Bonjwa days August '09 - September '09.
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Both these games has been awful play from the Zergs. Really disapointing.
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Hyuk is your typical Zerg noob.
Can only ZvP, and lose most ZvT's which is the hard matchup for Zerg.
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BEESTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT will prolly fail =_=
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On October 20 2009 19:28 Jyvblamo wrote:Hyuk is past his prime. He'll never dominate again like his Bonjwa days August '09 - September '09.
haha
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It is true that Hyuk is really good when no leagues go on.
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Hyuk's ability to fail in ZvT is amazing. -_- Where are the sunkens?
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On October 20 2009 19:26 konadora wrote:
Greater spire = loss
Proven by Jaedong
GS usage has great potential as seen in many games. Especially if terran isn't ready for that. I think Shinekal was awesome recently, when he morphed some devourers to protect guards from wraiths, vessels and use as damage absorbers. Inferior strat will work better than superior if the opponent is unprepared, especially vs mediocre opponents, that's why protoss should do something different or cheesy in pvz.
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On October 20 2009 19:28 Jyvblamo wrote:Hyuk is past his prime. He'll never dominate again like his Bonjwa days August '09 - September '09.
lol
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hyuk still can't win against terrans
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On October 20 2009 19:29 Highways wrote:
Hyuk is your typical Zerg noob.
Can only ZvP, and lose most ZvT's which is the hard matchup for Zerg.
i second that
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Hyuk losing is worse than SKT losing really.
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For a moment I was like "wtf that aint FBH or Flash" :-p
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will hyuk become the fbh of zergs? (good at the "easy mu", decent at the mirror, autoloss vs the "hard mu")
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On October 20 2009 19:39 midou wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 19:29 Highways wrote:
Hyuk is your typical Zerg noob.
Can only ZvP, and lose most ZvT's which is the hard matchup for Zerg. i second that
The awesome that is Hyuk must be blinding you guys.
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pusan going for some early game shenanigans
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Didn't Pusan say he wanted a macro showdown with BeSt? lol
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
PUSAN YOU SLY DOG LOL
SAYING YOU WANT TO PLAY A MACRO GAME IN INTERVIEW AND GOING SNEAKY SNeAKY
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is it wise to send so many probes after those gates?
well, im gonna trust best because he's the "pvp master" (a while ago......)
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konadora
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recommended game?
proxy - check
nice micro - check
more harassment - check
sure why not?
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obvious dt rush is obvious
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konadora
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On October 20 2009 19:47 Itachii wrote:
AHAHAHAHA WTF LOL
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Everything but macro. Wow
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lol Dts coming up for Pusan ... i think best has lost it
nvm he got obs up right on time ... lost a handful of probes though
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konadora
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observatory for best
block choke and best looks set to win
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konadora
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BUT FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
DT JUST WALKS INTO BEST'S MAIN
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konadora
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But BeSt minimises damage with probe rubbing
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This game is so badass :D
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Maybe macro war from now on? lol
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who's ahead? how many bases each person? how many gates? probe saturation?
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vlc-stream doesn't work for me and livestream one shows other game like every 5seconds, any other streams there?
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First Archon out for Pusan.
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zz sea on anti team, hyuk on main team. gg fantasy proleague
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Lol that pylon wall actually looks silly:-p
Pusan should take 3rd now?
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that pylon block is going to haunt best once storm comes in.
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lol best jut contained himself ;D
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Best blocking nat with pylons and looks like pusan is expanding again
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On October 20 2009 19:47 Itachii wrote:
Lol, that is win! 스피릿!
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HTs incoming for Pusan... ouch
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Best failing himself yet again.. what a loller.
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Pusan's definition of a macro game, cheese so I could beat a superior player.
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Best DT drops and his macro overwhelms Pusan..
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Pusan went back with all his army for 3 dt's and best rolled his 3rd
P.S. but still lost
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Damn Pusan and his cheesy crap, ruin my FPL.
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wow! Pusan!
Really happy for you here
Earned that win.
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Pusan counterattacks, storms, and rolls Best.
Best GGs
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That third was alive for too long with great saturation, that won him the game.
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Pusan wins after BeSt overextends himself expanding and taking out an expo, leaving himself open to a steamrolling. GG!
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On October 20 2009 19:47 Itachii wrote:
This is how Pusan rolls ::D
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PUSAN!!!! I always had faith in you
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Make it like the other night against estro. Win the first game lose the next three. :X
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now canata rip light apart and let's see bisu at ace :d
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On October 20 2009 19:56 Disregard wrote:
Pusan's definition of a macro game, cheese so I could beat a superior player.
lol  best hasn't been good for a long time now
and yea well, as far as cheeses go that was pretty sophisticated haha never thought of trapping probes outside before
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Manly play by Pusan ^^ gotta love him.
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Maybe SKT will learn to send bisu out?
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F E A R T H E S P I R I T ! ! ! !
(I'm so happy for him, even though I have BeSt in my FPL)
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Spirit toss is on fire...
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On October 20 2009 20:00 SkelA wrote:This is how Pusan rolls ::D
nice gif
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Lockdowns on BCs in kt vs khan if any1 is interested
lol
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BeSt did fine, the cheese from Pusan just kept coming
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Nice Job Spirit toss O_O
GOGOGO Light ! :p
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
He cheesed the shit out of Best after promising a macro game, and still it has developed into a decent macro game.
Nice winning momentum for Pusan.
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I hope Pusan gets destroyed in individual leagues, or hes gonna play sloppy and cheese it out. Damn you ruin my FPL!!
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On October 20 2009 19:56 Disregard wrote:
Pusan's definition of a macro game, cheese so I could beat a superior player.
The minor error with this statement is the fact that Pusan is actually the superior player.
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longass tvt - Whoever wins we lose, rofl, nice one kona
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After watching Flash vs FBH on MBC, I really don't feel like going through another 45 mins TvT so please Canata, rape this noob quickly!
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skt definitely underestimated MBC when they sent out a roster without bisu
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Wut, Flash vs FBH was actually good. Intense edge-of-your-seat ****.
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On October 20 2009 20:12 29 fps wrote:
skt definitely underestimated MBC when they sent out a roster without bisu
I thought it was Bisu's choice because he didn't wanna play against his old team?
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On October 20 2009 20:12 29 fps wrote:
skt definitely underestimated MBC when they sent out a roster without bisu
maybe its a sign of respect from Bisu and SKT's coach?
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On October 20 2009 20:13 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 20:12 29 fps wrote:
skt definitely underestimated MBC when they sent out a roster without bisu I thought it was Bisu's choice because he didn't wanna play against his old team?
Uhh, why would he?
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On October 20 2009 20:13 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 20:12 29 fps wrote:
skt definitely underestimated MBC when they sent out a roster without bisu I thought it was Bisu's choice because he didn't wanna play against his old team?
nope?who on earth told you that
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On October 20 2009 20:13 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 20:12 29 fps wrote:
skt definitely underestimated MBC when they sent out a roster without bisu I thought it was Bisu's choice because he didn't wanna play against his old team?
And this is how rumors are created.
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Wow, SKT without Hyuk loses.
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lol the fat coach looks funny XD
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I cant bare to watch this, MY FPL NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
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Lol epic harass, Light has this.
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Lol just like against estro. Win the first game lose the rest! :OOO
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lol Canata getting owned by goliaths
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So much for a hyuk ace. =(
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I have RorO canata and hyuk on the FPL ^^
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SKT giving away pity games before it kicks everyone's ass at the end.
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Light is putting some serious hurt on Canata. Now with a stronger economy and a stronger army.
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On October 20 2009 20:19 Borknagarush wrote:
Next Airforce Ace?
Thats Woongjin.
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thank god for canata not delaying the outcome in an hour long TvT
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On October 20 2009 20:11 nayumi wrote:
After watching Flash vs FBH on MBC, I really don't feel like going through another 45 mins TvT so please Canata, rape this noob quickly!
That was quick ... but not how I wanted it lol
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This is an awesome night.
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MBC fighting!
(What should I do with my 1000th post?:-p)
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
light.... mmmmmmmmmmm =)
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lmao, canata got owned by light so badly.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
Dumb decision not to use Bisu in first 4.
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Ahahaha 2/2 lb again tonight, thank you Sea, Pusan, and Light. May this trio take MBC far!
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2/2 LB, SKT always loses with MBC lol
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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my fpl got totally hammered today
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Hero Goliaths win the game.
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That's the only secret : send Pusan out and MBC will win
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Yeahh, Canata fails and SKT loses! Nothing could make me happier.
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there it goes my liquibet, it's the second time skt pulls an upset
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Voted for MBC in LB , kinda obvious without Bisu ^^
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Lol, this season contenders STX, CJ and SKT are failing hard. Gotta say, this season FPL is kinda crazy. Well, good for MBC!
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On October 20 2009 20:23 RamenStyle wrote:
Lol, this season contenders STX, CJ and SKT are failing hard. Gotta say, this season FPL is kinda crazy. Well, good for MBC!
i almost gave up my fantasy team, i can't get nothing right, lol
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SKT is so full of fail right now.
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This is what you get if you do not use your best player.
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On October 20 2009 20:24 Holgerius wrote:SKT is so full of fail right now.
*Looks at your team flag*
\(o_O)/
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I AM SO HAPPY i picked canata for my anti team and voted MBC on the LB. Ya man.
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On October 20 2009 20:26 Jyvblamo wrote:*Looks at your team flag* \(o_O)/
Maybe KHAN failing isn't a thing anymore lol XD!
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What a night for me KHAN Stork Janbi fail and hyuk and canata lose and sea is no my anti together with roro i guess im into - again lol !
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On October 20 2009 20:31 dibbaN wrote:
wheres Thezerg Òó
You can't see him clearly, but he's in the umbra of Bonjwa Hyuk's shadow.
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On October 20 2009 20:26 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 20:26 Jyvblamo wrote:On October 20 2009 20:24 Holgerius wrote:SKT is so full of fail right now. *Looks at your team flag* \(o_O)/ Maybe KHAN failing isn't a thing anymore lol XD!
I'm not a fan of any team, really. I just choose Khan when I was new here because I thought Stork and FBH were awesome players. I just to lazy to change it. I don't care for any team, I only care about specific players.
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On October 20 2009 20:26 Pergamon wrote:
I AM SO HAPPY i picked canata for my anti team and voted MBC on the LB. Ya man.
You still get -1 for Canata being in the lineup.
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Feels so good, I've LBd MBC Hero, woooooot.
Too bad, Samsung sucked up again.
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On October 20 2009 20:34 RamenStyle wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 20:26 Pergamon wrote:
I AM SO HAPPY i picked canata for my anti team and voted MBC on the LB. Ya man. You still get -1 for Canata being in the lineup.
yeah, but SKT lost so Canata owners get 0 points
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On October 20 2009 20:35 crucifix wrote:DUN DUN DUN
So.... you went for the upset in both today's games, and went 1 for 2.....
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Hm.. not really. I was pretty sure both MBCGame and Samsung has pretty good shoot at winning but Khan failed. Again. And I will never LB them again. Jesus.
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No Bisu = No victory?
Skt is clearly a one man team.
(liquibetted for MBC, btw)
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On October 20 2009 20:58 MrHoon wrote:lol so many spoilers in this thread Cover em up boys!
MrHoon, this is the live report thread. If we were to cover all the references to the match in spoiler brackets all the thread would be a giant spoiler.
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BISUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
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dun dun DUNNNN
lol @ not using bisu
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Damn Sea now he is -9 for my fantasy team T_T
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On October 20 2009 21:04 JohnBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2009 20:58 MrHoon wrote:lol so many spoilers in this thread Cover em up boys! MrHoon, this is the live report thread. If we were to cover all the references to the match in spoiler brackets all the thread would be a giant spoiler.
MrHoon's talking about the OTHER match (KT vs Samsung) yo
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Why, SKT? Why?
On the other hand, it's good to see Sea and Light taking names.
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IMO Hyuk threw away that game in true hyuk style. Then Best just phailed against Pusan's "i dont want a macro game" cheese. And Canata has never been good in my head xD
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Wow SKT lost 1-3? Seriously this was a surprise
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I just sat with my mouth open for 5 minutes when I saw the results.
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This season is already awesome.
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pripple
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On October 17 2009 21:53 pripple wrote:
SKT starting this week with a 3-0 aswell, gonna get stomped by MBC 1-3? ;p
yeees, posted that in the SKT vs KHAN thread, they seem to have an pattern going on here.
Hyuk wasn't supposed to lose though ;<
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On October 20 2009 21:13 Tuke wrote:
Damn Sea now he is -9 for my fantasy team T_T
Me too haha, I also have Best so this day was a complete failure for my team. My anti is really killing me with -18 pts.
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Hahahaha! YEEEEEES! SEA NO.1 BALLER!
And the curse of Konadora continues!
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L
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Even with "rising star" Hyuk, still can't win without Bisu?
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Haha I looked at the predictions and thought it was the results..
Then i opened the results...
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whaaat the fuuuck?
seriously, im stunned about how often i had sat there with my mouth wide open when opening the results spoiler during this short season.
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
how could that happen? hyuk and best seemed to be on the rise, and canata looked rock solid last season. but i dont really get why bisu wasnt sent although he got no starleague games to prepare for atm... still, i am deeply disappointed.
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On October 21 2009 00:54 Black Gun wrote:
whaaat the fuuuck?
seriously, im stunned about how often i had sat there with my mouth wide open when opening the results spoiler during this short season.
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
how could that happen? hyuk and best seemed to be on the rise, and canata looked rock solid last season. but i dont really get why bisu wasnt sent although he got no starleague games to prepare for atm... still, i am deeply disappointed.
How about that Sea is still one of the best players of SC BW in practice, Light is a top 6 Terran and top 10 PL player, and Pusan is on a 17-1 hot streak?
+ the fact Best fucking blows at anything except 2base arbs PvT/Hyuk has a 14% ZvT lol.../and Canata was never as good as Light the past 4 years except his debut and last season
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SKT fans should stop posting 3:0 predictions after the first game. It's obviously a jinx.
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CMON HYUK, carry SKT to victory!
and curse my fantasy team on all imaginable levels.
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Use Bisu... geez... what were they thinking?
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really not shocking.
hyuk is not good despite his little winstreak, plus Sea rapes.
Best is horrible now.
and Canata vs Light is pretty even.
Without bisu it was in MBCs favor
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On October 20 2009 17:59 Womwomwom wrote:fantasy < Outsider SE >  Saintfantasy should crush him, but if Saint can block Vulture harrass and force fantasy to go SK terran, Saint can produce an upset. Hyuk < Moon Glaive > SeaHyuk is horrible against terran. Sea hasn't been doing fantastic, but he isn't some random scrub.  BeSt < Heartbreak Ridge > PusanPusan has been performing fairly well recently while Best hasn't quite been himself. Canata < Fighting Spirit > LightA tossup for me. If it gets to the 5th set, then MBC is kind of stuffed assuming SKT1 doesn't do something stupid and send out Thezerg or something.
ughhhhh..... u ruins everything
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Damn Pusan's pvp is pretty consistent. Good job to MBC!
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On October 21 2009 01:03 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2009 00:54 Black Gun wrote:
whaaat the fuuuck?
seriously, im stunned about how often i had sat there with my mouth wide open when opening the results spoiler during this short season.
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
how could that happen? hyuk and best seemed to be on the rise, and canata looked rock solid last season. but i dont really get why bisu wasnt sent although he got no starleague games to prepare for atm... still, i am deeply disappointed. How about that Sea is still one of the best players of SC BW in practice, Light is a top 6 Terran and top 10 PL player, and Pusan is on a 17-1 hot streak? + the fact Best fucking blows at anything except 2base arbs PvT/Hyuk has a 14% ZvT lol.../and Canata was never as good as Light the past 4 years except his debut and last season
well gee you saved me a post, very concise and accurate explanation of what happened. And Pusan's build was soo gay and yet very smart and obviously practiced, you could see the amazment on bisus face, surely hell steal it for himself.
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Ok imagine KT without Flash and Oz without JD. Coach should use Bisu at least once and if it goes to ACE match than two times. Sure Bisu will not guarantee a win but so doesn't JD or FLash.
Hyuk looked like his old self by blowing up a favorable game to win. But his "little record" is like ~27-6 now? Still impressive compared to Thezerg.
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Poor SKT, as a KT fan I know I should be enjoying this... but it's too much of a bummer. Star Craft can be a fickle mistress.
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Wow, I got all four for four on my predictions for once this year.
That's refreshing :O
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Why is Fantasy vs Saint recommended? Thats the worst ZvT attempt i've seen for ages. Really, wtf was he doing. Fantasy hardly had to do much considering Saint built no units at all, it was abysmal.
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On October 21 2009 02:30 Hazard wrote:
Ok imagine KT without Flash and Oz without JD. Coach should use Bisu at least once and if it goes to ACE match than two times. Sure Bisu will not guarantee a win but so doesn't JD or FLash.
Hyuk looked like his old self by blowing up a favorable game to win. But his "little record" is like ~27-6 now? Still impressive compared to Thezerg.
I think it was a good decision to leave bisu out. Using a player all the time wears him out, although that was probably not the concern this time since bisu doesn't have any other games right now.
But giving air time to other players creates a deep team over time instead of having a single ace player that carries the team (hi jaedong). The chances for SKT1 were still good with this lineup. I would have expected it going to ace and then SKT1 would have had mutliple options: A zerg because of tornado, Fantasy or Bisu, even if the map seems not so good for protoss right now, but not impossible.
So SKT1 lost two matches, but they are still fine. They can test some more and figure out the best lineup and when they reach the playoffs they might have more depth.
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I'm just going to chime in again with my theory that Bisu is having trouble with his hands.
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YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! OMG PUSAN, LIGHT, AND SEA WON!!!!!!!
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OMFG
Dear
god
this was IRL jawdropping
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lol the kona curse still reigns even this season
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ROFL OWNED
tsk tsk hyuk couldnt win forever..
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Whats not to like? Upsets, entertaining games (at least the Best v Pusan), SKT1 trying out more players for team depth etc.... just a shame it didnt go to an ACE match but apart from that i pretty much enjoyed the series ^^
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Valhalla18444 Posts
pusan light and sea
i love these boys so much
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Woot sea. Hope sea keeps winning his games. And pusan just beasting it.
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Other than Fantasy, it looked like SKT1 underestimated MBC. No Bisu = lose. Bisu excels in all matchups.
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skt1 fail
that's just sad, not even funny
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