EPTI tested this on another computer first to make sure it wasn't just my computer (it had the same OS though).
The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group.
Help?
[Q] 1a2a3a trouble (not a joke)
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
I tested this on another computer first to make sure it wasn't just my computer (it had the same OS though). The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group. Help? | ||
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Loser777
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
Though I can't say I've ever heard of a problem like this before... | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
I have problems doing 1a2a31a2a3a1a2a3a1a2a3a. (trying do to that 1a2a3a micro map with the ghosts) i always fuck up going back to 1, and yeah TT or over extending to 4 TT | ||
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:23 Zozma wrote: Well, you could do a move command first and then do your a-move slowly, so that they would all arrive at once anyway. Though I can't say I've ever heard of a problem like this before... Sometimes I do this, then it allows you to 1a2a3a slowly while all your units still start moving at the same time. Other times, I'll just 1a2a3a twice or even three times in huge battles late game just to be sure all my units went. Better off wasting like 3 seconds doing than than finding out only 3/4 of your army went and ended up getting raped. | ||
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coltrane
Chile988 Posts
You need to practice ingame, notepad isnt good enough because yours is mainly a coordination problem betwen your hands. You need to click right after the a and before the number or you will miss groups orders. I have seen progamers hotkeying CC and hiting 1r2r3r4r several times, its similar, and you can use that dead time to practice the 1a2a3a shit. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:37 Grobyc wrote: Sometimes I do this, then it allows you to 1a2a3a slowly while all your units still start moving at the same time. Other times, I'll just 1a2a3a twice or even three times in huge battles late game just to be sure all my units went. Better off wasting like 3 seconds doing than than finding out only 3/4 of your army went and ended up getting raped. Yep really sucks if you forgot those 2 extra groups of lings or that group of zealots when your charging into the Terran ball of DOOOM. | ||
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sanji_
United States16 Posts
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:45 sanji_ wrote: I'm new to SC, but I find 4a5a6a7a etc much easier than 1a2a3a4a. I just keep my pinky on a and use my index finger. Feels better for me Which do you use for end game building macro then? | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:49 Pufftrees wrote: Which do you use for end game building macro then? hence the new part, i bet he doesn't | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
Actually that's how I set my unit hotkeys too. 1 - Main CC 2 - Natural 3 - Production building(double tap to macro) 4-8 - Units 9 - Scanner 0 - Scanner Doesn't work too bad actually. I'm pretty fast at 4a5a6a7a8a in-game, and since I'm constantly managing and macroing my base because 1-3 are all together. Works for me anyway. | ||
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sanji_
United States16 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:49 Pufftrees wrote: Which do you use for end game building macro then? There are still F2, F3, F4, 1-3, and 8-0 for those areas or buildings. All it is is a shift of the hotkeys, but they're all still there. Sure I'm noob, but it just feels much easier as I don't have to move my hand, although I'm sure there are players who use 1a2a3a and are faster. | ||
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Queequeg
Germany263 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:20 PokePill wrote: The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group. No, the problem is, while your mouse button is pressed from a+click you can't hotkey-select the next group. So you have to release the mouse button as fast as possible. And don't practice in notepad, you don't have to use the mouse there. | ||
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
On August 11 2009 05:39 Queequeg wrote: No, the problem is, while your mouse button is pressed from a+click you can't hotkey-select the next group. So you have to release the mouse button as fast as possible. And don't practice in notepad, you don't have to use the mouse there. ohhhhhhh that explains why my rally points get all messed up when i change them, usually i jsut spam 4-0 a bunch of times with right click. with units i usually get though, but a bit slower. someone mentioned that 1a2a3a game, it heped me out quite a bit, i cant come close to beating it but i made it to level four  | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
The 1a2a3a UMS Training map | ||
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Mah Buckit!
Finland474 Posts
No really I have the same problem, I hope SC2 doesn´t have this "feat". It gets on your nerves when rallypoints are always around the map But my keyboard isn´t the best for SC either I guess. | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:20 PokePill wrote: I've always had trouble doing 1a2a3a4a5a because I have to slowdown doing it because I otherwise risk some of my control groups being skipped. Playing other games for a few years I can do this extremely fast but I'm forced to do it rhythmically in Starcraft, and was wondering if there's any possible keyboard settings or something to fix this problem or if I'm stuck doing it this way. I tested this on another computer first to make sure it wasn't just my computer (it had the same OS though). The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group. Help? I had and still have the same problem, if I press another button too fast it doesnt work, so I used to skip few groups and lose the big battles. However, I found another, maybe even better way. Lets say I got lurker/ling army with 12 lurks and 48 lings. I group them from 1 to 5, then get set them in formation (lurkers in front, lings from sides) and just do 1-click-2-click-3-click-4-click-5-click towards the MnM army. then with no harm 2a3a in one side and 4a5a in other side, lurkers reaches marines, 1u. Well basically what I'm telling, you can just order them to move, and when all groups are moving, re-order them to attack. :} | ||
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mcgriddle
United States253 Posts
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Zilver
Finland282 Posts
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Metaspace
Austria670 Posts
I.e., I often have to press 5sdd6sdd7sdd to macro drones - if I press "d" only once, the game will not detect the key press. Use ChaosLauncher etc. to cheat SC into using LAN latency (all player require this "hack" for it to work), or play ICCup (where this hack is part of the ICCup loader). Also, note that when you do mouse clicks while pressing keys, the key presses will be ignored. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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DIMJkE
Bulgaria425 Posts
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Metaspace
Austria670 Posts
I have lost a lot of ZvT when my reeinforcments turned out to be scourge instrad of lings/hydra. | ||
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omninmo
2349 Posts
pinky rests on A as index finger moves from 5 to 9 | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
I do this fine typing. But when you are in game it is much harder because as you said as the a is still being hit, the game does not register the next number. The simple fact is that you do not NEED to do 1a2a3a in 1/2 a second. If you just slow down and do it quickly and with a tiny pause between each key, and really get down the rhythm at which you can do it the fastest without overlapping the keys, there is no time that it will not be fast enough. I move my army just going 1234512345 click click click and then I just slowly (comparatively) and rhythmically do 1a2a3a4a. I play a lot of 2v2 and I use MM vs P a lot and so I had to practice very good SK terran control for a long time, and I had the exact same problem you are describing. Just slowing it down a little whenever I 1a2a3a'd made a big impact. It's more important that you pay attention to your units and NOTICE that you need to 1a2a3a than that you are able to 1a2a3a in a millisecond. | ||
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closed
Vatican City State491 Posts
http://rapidshare.com/files/266164887/1a2a3a.exe.html?killcode=11868414265586721 btw. please scan it with viruses, as I dont bother to have any scanner at the moment. There was also a map to train it, Ill try to find it. | ||
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aeroH
United States1034 Posts
On August 11 2009 21:23 closed wrote: Download the forgotten 1a2a3a program made by hasuwar: http://rapidshare.com/files/266164887/1a2a3a.exe.html?killcode=11868414265586721 btw. please scan it with viruses, as I dont bother to have any scanner at the moment. There was also a map to train it, Ill try to find it. don't know if the one you posted was this one but i guess this could pass as a "trainer" http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=18619 (download link under the map picture) | ||
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
On August 11 2009 17:25 mcgriddle wrote: sounds like my macro problem- with zerg i 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh too fast and it doesnt work sometimes. Only cure i have found is forcing myself to really pound each key in a nice rhythm. Tips? :D I usually don't use numbers for my macroing. only 5, then double tap, click sh click sh click sz click su click ss. same for terran. 5 - click m click m click m click m click v click t | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
This increases the number of actions protoss were presumed to have to do by 50%, not so easy now... is it? I believe you may be skipping this third step if your actions are so slow that your entire army arrives at different intervals. But really, it's just practice | ||
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dhe95
United States1213 Posts
On August 11 2009 21:23 closed wrote: Download the forgotten 1a2a3a program made by hasuwar: http://rapidshare.com/files/266164887/1a2a3a.exe.html?killcode=11868414265586721 btw. please scan it with viruses, as I dont bother to have any scanner at the moment. There was also a map to train it, Ill try to find it. That's the kill link? | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:49 Pufftrees wrote: Which do you use for end game building macro then? An F key for macro area? | ||
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konadora
Singapore66183 Posts
Anyway, there's this little micro UMS game called '1a2a3a' practice, lets you select three cannons and do 1a2a3a for eternity. Great practice imo. | ||
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Vision
United States113 Posts
My pinky finger is on A Ring finger 1 Middle finger 2,3,so on | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On August 11 2009 04:23 Zozma wrote: Well, you could do a move command first and then do your a-move slowly, so that they would all arrive at once anyway. Though I can't say I've ever heard of a problem like this before... Try that, or just slow down... Maybe your keyboard keys arent springy enough and pop up slower. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On August 12 2009 01:18 Vision wrote: I think you are using a wierd finger setup... My pinky finger is on A Ring finger 1 Middle finger 2,3,so on i don't thats a very good setup personally for my fingers my pinky gets crushed. | ||
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