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StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
June 23 2009 05:44 GMT
#21
On June 23 2009 14:31 qrs wrote:
Excellent article; I enjoyed the insight. Thanks for the translation.

PS- The English idiom for "whirlpool in a cup of water" is "tempest in a teacup".

PPS- I wonder if this will stop Plexa from saying that Jaedong never innovates anything.


Thanks, fixed.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 23 2009 05:45 GMT
#22
wow, great article and thank you for the xslation
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 23 2009 05:46 GMT
#23
On June 23 2009 14:44 StRyKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 14:31 qrs wrote:
Excellent article; I enjoyed the insight. Thanks for the translation.

PS- The English idiom for "whirlpool in a cup of water" is "tempest in a teacup".

PPS- I wonder if this will stop Plexa from saying that Jaedong never innovates anything.


Thanks, fixed.


eh... i thought it was tempest in a teapot =\
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 05:52:22
June 23 2009 05:49 GMT
#24
On June 23 2009 14:18 AzureEye wrote:
Very informative post! Nice. Could you add VODs to the particular examples too? That would make it better

I think what you mentioned about the zergling narrow timing window is too risky imo. I think Protoss will learn to adapt. I've also seen quite a few P's going goon-heavy earlier. Such an ironic play by P when Z goes ling heavy early on

Two vods that I can think of are:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12159_EffOrt_vs_Pure
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12220_Jaedong_vs_jjonga

Awesome translation, Stryker. <3
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2599 Posts
June 23 2009 05:53 GMT
#25
Thanks StRyKeR, very very insightful of high level play pvz : )
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 06:28:06
June 23 2009 06:26 GMT
#26
On June 23 2009 14:46 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 14:44 StRyKeR wrote:
On June 23 2009 14:31 qrs wrote:
Excellent article; I enjoyed the insight. Thanks for the translation.

PS- The English idiom for "whirlpool in a cup of water" is "tempest in a teacup".

PPS- I wonder if this will stop Plexa from saying that Jaedong never innovates anything.


Thanks, fixed.


eh... i thought it was tempest in a teapot =\
OK, fine, I Googled it. Verdict: "tempest in a teapot" most common American version, "storm in a teacup" most common British version, various other combinations of ill weather and houseware, including, but not limited to "tempest in a teacup" and "storm in a teapot" also extant.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
June 23 2009 06:43 GMT
#27
thanks for the translation. this is probably why zvp is so great. some day, DAs will enter that cycle? that would be cool.
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 07:09:10
June 23 2009 07:06 GMT
#28
Thanks for the translation. Was effort the first to use this build? Because Luxury and Jaedong were using it in 50% of their ZvPs last season. To clarify, they went 3hat spire, then start pumping lings off 3hat while getting a 4th hat, vs this current trend of getting 5hat hydra. Savior also used this build vs Bisu on Neo Harmony and won.
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sdvc
Profile Joined April 2009
United States91 Posts
June 23 2009 07:14 GMT
#29
Has there been any comment about what the Koreans think of Yellow's build?
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2298 Posts
June 23 2009 07:14 GMT
#30
nice read thanx mate.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
June 23 2009 07:25 GMT
#31
On June 23 2009 16:06 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the translation. Was effort the first to use this build? Because Luxury and Jaedong were using it in 50% of their ZvPs last season. To clarify, they went 3hat spire, then start pumping lings off 3hat while getting a 4th hat, vs this current trend of getting 5hat hydra. Savior also used this build vs Bisu on Neo Harmony and won.


Savior's build against Bisu was all-inish. His Zerglings weren't meant to pressure Protoss from taking a 3rd. It was a timing attack meant to do damage to his econ before Bisu's army materialized.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 23 2009 07:43 GMT
#32
This belongs to final edit...
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Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
June 23 2009 08:47 GMT
#33
thanks a lot for the translation, really interesting read!
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Vrac
Profile Joined June 2009
Poland52 Posts
June 23 2009 08:58 GMT
#34
How did Savior play his Muta-Lurk style ? Muta 1st to def zealot and then lurkers + outexpand ?
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
June 23 2009 09:09 GMT
#35
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Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
June 23 2009 09:48 GMT
#36
Wow this was excellent.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 10:02:15
June 23 2009 10:01 GMT
#37
Really good write up. This is the kind of thing we need more of in bw. Thanks.
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Axieoqu
Profile Joined October 2005
Finland204 Posts
June 23 2009 11:37 GMT
#38
Thanks. Really informative translation. I liked the logic and reasoning behind it all. You could use bold or something to make different parts more distinguishable. Please translate more whenever you can.
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
June 23 2009 11:55 GMT
#39
great article!! worth the front page, it is short and good. Very enjoyable.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
June 23 2009 12:25 GMT
#40
I enjoyed it very much, though i don't know to much of what effort did.
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