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! Day[9] Podcasts E14: TvZ on Heartbreak Ridge - Page 45

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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 18 2009 04:38 GMT
#881
when's it gonna be?
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
October 18 2009 05:03 GMT
#882
tomorrow ideally, but doubtfully. tuesday more likely. friday almost certainly
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
aiyeeta
Profile Joined June 2007
United States199 Posts
October 19 2009 10:00 GMT
#883
Hi Day, long time listener, first time caller... uh huh...

I realized I was crazy recently when it dawned on me that I actually enjoy watching ZvZ games, but why is ZvZ the mirror matchup it is today and are there good builds to break the mold?

Or the long set of questions:
+ Show Spoiler +
Why is ZvZ 99% ling harass into MutaScourge vs MutaScourge? Is it the fast paced nature of the build? Why do most players conform to this template and play Rock-Paper-Scissors game after game? Do you foresee any potential of this mold ever getting broken, mainstreamed, and a new life breathed into this mirror matchup? What makes a map better for doing one of those wacky non-standard builds that you see oh so rarely?


I figured you'd have some light to shine on this area if only a short answer.
"...And that was the first time I got crabs"
BarneyEX
Profile Joined March 2009
Malaysia98 Posts
October 19 2009 10:39 GMT
#884
Why is ZvZ 99% ling harass into MutaScourge vs MutaScourge? Is it the fast paced nature of the build? Why do most players conform to this template and play Rock-Paper-Scissors game after game? Do you foresee any potential of this mold ever getting broken, mainstreamed, and a new life breathed into this mirror matchup? What makes a map better for doing one of those wacky non-standard builds that you see oh so rarely?

I think Day[9] mentioned once in one off his podcasts that he went 40+ - 1 when he manage to create a well timed hydra build, not sure which 1 though =D
aiyeeta
Profile Joined June 2007
United States199 Posts
October 19 2009 10:48 GMT
#885
That's a good point. He said the 1 he lost was the first time he tried it and was feeling it out.

Though, it's still not a popular thing to do and I'm really curious as to why MutaScourge is the mainstream way.

Personally, my favorite non-standard build was Xiaozi on TLattack on Tau Cross with a 3 hatch build into hydras and queen. But Xiaozi himself said that he never did that build versus "good players"
"...And that was the first time I got crabs"
SiegeFlank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States410 Posts
October 20 2009 02:13 GMT
#886
Hey Day[9], I have a question with regards to self-improvement within the game:

What would you consider the most efficient way(s) to spend time when it comes to getting better at the game (practicing, watching games, coming up with builds, etc.) when the amount of time you have is limited?
Bird up
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 20 2009 22:42 GMT
#887
Just wanted to finally say thank you sooo much Day[9]. I know everyone has benefited alot from the podcasts, but after listening and trying (always trying) to apply everything i learn my play is vastly improved. Day.... YOU are the man! Keep em coming, and id like to see one like what SiegeFlank is suggesting.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
October 21 2009 01:22 GMT
#888
On October 20 2009 11:13 SiegeFlank wrote:
Hey Day[9], I have a question with regards to self-improvement within the game:

What would you consider the most efficient way(s) to spend time when it comes to getting better at the game (practicing, watching games, coming up with builds, etc.) when the amount of time you have is limited?


If your time is limited, then probably a balance that emphasizes playing more than anything else is the best idea.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
October 21 2009 01:46 GMT
#889
you're a champion day[9] and i love your username for some reason
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 21 2009 01:54 GMT
#890
Er, what does you're name mean actually?
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 21 2009 02:41 GMT
#891
Aagh an entire podcast on a build Fantasy did against Jaedong that probably wasn't even his own creation T_T As a loyal fantasy hater, that makes me pretty sad, but it still was a quality podcast. I hope you could do another Zerg podcast soon, and it seems like you're planning on doing the 2h vs 3h podcast. Awesome. I hope you'll go into enough detail about certain less well-known builds like the 2hatch "economic" lurker build into contain -> expand -> defilers. I've always wanted to know more about that but information about it seems to be very difficult to find.

Good job as always, looking forward to the next podcast.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
kallewoof
Profile Joined September 2009
Japan6 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-24 02:02:44
October 24 2009 02:00 GMT
#892
On October 10 2009 13:34 Contendor wrote:
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On October 10 2009 12:57 kallewoof wrote:
Day[9]: Though I would be very happy if you could get an RSS feed, man. I've kept this topic open in FF for over a month now just to see when a new one is released. An RSS feed I could add to gmail or whatever would be oh so wonderful.


I made an unofficial one. It is over at http://asxc.org/day9/


Can I offer a suggestion on this one? Put in dates in the RSS feed title. I keep seeing various titles appear that I don't instantly recognize so I keep getting my hopes up about a new release when it's just showing a random, old one. Just like Day[9] does it, e.g. "10.15 fooing a bar" or whatever would be awesomeific...

edit: another awesome thing would be if you could actually put the dates into the xml of the rss feed itself. Ideally both, but one or the other works. Feeds with dates for each entry show the "# of days ago" in the gmail web clips, so people would know from that as well.
Contendor
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada27 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-24 23:08:29
October 24 2009 22:55 GMT
#893
On October 24 2009 11:00 kallewoof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 13:34 Contendor wrote:
On October 10 2009 12:57 kallewoof wrote:
Day[9]: Though I would be very happy if you could get an RSS feed, man. I've kept this topic open in FF for over a month now just to see when a new one is released. An RSS feed I could add to gmail or whatever would be oh so wonderful.


I made an unofficial one. It is over at http://asxc.org/day9/


Can I offer a suggestion on this one? Put in dates in the RSS feed title. I keep seeing various titles appear that I don't instantly recognize so I keep getting my hopes up about a new release when it's just showing a random, old one. Just like Day[9] does it, e.g. "10.15 fooing a bar" or whatever would be awesomeific...

edit: another awesome thing would be if you could actually put the dates into the xml of the rss feed itself. Ideally both, but one or the other works. Feeds with dates for each entry show the "# of days ago" in the gmail web clips, so people would know from that as well.


Sounds like a good thing to do on a Sunday morning. It should be done shortly.

Edit: It looks like only the past two podcasts have their dates up there. If anyone can post a list of the podcasts and the day they were published I will add it to the others.

I haven't changed the title yet, just added a pubdate entry for the ones I know the date for. Once I can change all of their titles I will.
For a GNU dawn! For freedom!
9287
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States134 Posts
October 25 2009 00:00 GMT
#894
do a ZvP please
hasublack
Profile Joined August 2005
Finland79 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-25 01:09:24
October 25 2009 01:06 GMT
#895
i cant that you enough, but here it goes

thank you Sean for all your work with these podcast !

this is truly respectable!

in finland we say, Kiitos Paljon, it mean thank you very much!

<3


+ Show Spoiler +
sick amount of help you are giving to people and the guality of games played after now on
wheres your head at ?
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
October 25 2009 02:19 GMT
#896
Thanks Day[9], I've learned a lot from these podcasts.

If I could request something, though, it would be a guide to self-improvement. Though all your podcasts are indirectly about self-improvement due to their educational nature, I feel lost with only one friend who plays Starcraft decently and not being good enough to hold my own on ICCup / there being too much cheese on ICCup (I just got finished being inbase proxied in a TvT on Heartbreak Ridge, after being proxied on Destination by a protoss, after being proxied inbase on Heartbreak Ridge T.T).

If you want this request in the form of a question, How does someone relatively new to the game improve themselves with limited practice partners and resources?
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
kallewoof
Profile Joined September 2009
Japan6 Posts
October 25 2009 06:57 GMT
#897
On October 25 2009 07:55 Contendor wrote:
Sounds like a good thing to do on a Sunday morning. It should be done shortly.

Edit: It looks like only the past two podcasts have their dates up there. If anyone can post a list of the podcasts and the day they were published I will add it to the others.

I haven't changed the title yet, just added a pubdate entry for the ones I know the date for. Once I can change all of their titles I will.


Much appreciated! :-D
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
October 28 2009 03:23 GMT
#898
ETA till 2v3 Hatch cast?
beyond.wudge
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia58 Posts
November 01 2009 11:00 GMT
#899
"In a number of TvTs I see players use tank mode against siege mode and win. When I try to use tank mode against sieged tanks I tend to lose out.

Given I'm watching VODs I don't always have all the information (upgrades, hp left, et cetera) so I'm not always sure why sometimes players push with tank mode and other times siege.

What information/criteria governs the decision to stay in tank mode and push up with tanks and goliaths? In what circumstances is it best to do it?"

Copy and paste from a thread.

Could you do a post cast about siege units? Siege tanks, Lurkers, et cetera. Specifically, could you talk about how to use them best when not in siege, like how to attack in tank mode and all that?
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
November 01 2009 15:21 GMT
#900
On October 19 2009 19:39 BarneyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why is ZvZ 99% ling harass into MutaScourge vs MutaScourge? Is it the fast paced nature of the build? Why do most players conform to this template and play Rock-Paper-Scissors game after game? Do you foresee any potential of this mold ever getting broken, mainstreamed, and a new life breathed into this mirror matchup? What makes a map better for doing one of those wacky non-standard builds that you see oh so rarely?

I think Day[9] mentioned once in one off his podcasts that he went 40+ - 1 when he manage to create a well timed hydra build, not sure which 1 though =D


Even though hydras might have more force as a "force" than mutaling, if you go hydras, you can't leave your base. If you do, mutalisks will come and destroy all of your drones.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
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