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FlaShFTW
United States10569 Posts
On March 23 2026 03:59 mtcn77 wrote: I think iopq said a few posts back there were no difference between races. well this just cant possibly be true when workers clearly accelerate differently and therefore give different mining rates. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On March 26 2026 04:28 FlaShFTW wrote: well this just cant possibly be true when workers clearly accelerate differently and therefore give different mining rates. I'm an avid iopq follower. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines965 Posts
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines965 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Fyu650XsPrY | ||
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iopq
United States1183 Posts
On April 01 2026 11:44 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: do you know how FBH does this 148 frame boost on the left side? https://youtu.be/LO3vg71Ez2U?si=i1uc0H_tOy7KEBSr&t=536 it's the same as the #3 on modern maps he's doing return cargo before the drone gets to the mineral if you want it to automatically boost you need to set up the perfect angle on the mineral,. I set it up by clicking on the mineral when the drone is coming to mine it you get 149 frames automatically if you time it right, you can tell because the mineral turns around faster in the drone's hand you can see Soma do it in his videos to make sure it's mining at that 149 rate, not 158 | ||
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iopq
United States1183 Posts
On March 26 2026 04:28 FlaShFTW wrote: well this just cant possibly be true when workers clearly accelerate differently and therefore give different mining rates. except workers have a different speed when mining compared to moving normally | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10569 Posts
On April 01 2026 17:47 iopq wrote: except workers have a different speed when mining compared to moving normally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHB8woRoEuM This video is utterly meaningless to the discussion of what the frame data/mining rates are because, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT AN SCV MINING RATE WHEN RETURNING TO A NEXUS. You literally proved my point: workers have different mining rates because inherently, you have different town halls for each race. You can't possibly think this video proved a point. If you want to argue the semantics: yes ok, my statement that "workers move at different speeds" is TECHNICALLY incorrect, but the discussion is on worker movement while mining, and their respective town halls are relevant, so we can easily just amend the statement to: "workers move at different speeds when mining to their respective town halls" even though the last third of that sentence isn't even relevant because when is an SCV mining to a nexus? | ||
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iopq
United States1183 Posts
On April 02 2026 11:18 FlaShFTW wrote: This video is utterly meaningless to the discussion of what the frame data/mining rates are because, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT AN SCV MINING RATE WHEN RETURNING TO A NEXUS. You literally proved my point: workers have different mining rates because inherently, you have different town halls for each race. You can't possibly think this video proved a point. It wasn't clear from your post, since you mentioned acceleration and some people believe workers accelerate differently (they actually don't). Even after re-reading it I didn't know exactly what you meant, so I wanted to clarify what the actual difference between the races is The other poster made the assumption that since workers are the same then the mining rates are the same which is not true because the drop offs are different | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines965 Posts
is this #5 left side boost still 63.8 with the auto-boost? | ||
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iopq
United States1183 Posts
On April 08 2026 18:56 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: is this #5 left side boost still 63.8 with the auto-boost? Yeah, because there's a cycle, it goes fast only from time to time and this is an average If there's a way to make it mine even faster, I'm all ears | ||
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iopq
United States1183 Posts
Here are boosted frame times Left side: #1 150 #4 150 #6 couldn't boost consistently so it's a waste of time for me #8 150 Right side: 1: 150 2: couldn't return boost consistently so again, not viable for me 7: 150 there's a difference of one frame with the previous version, not sure which one is more correct | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines965 Posts
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iopq
United States1183 Posts
the old one has the bug that it doesn't count the whole cycle when you mess around with the drone too much | ||
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iopq
United States1183 Posts
here are my triggers: + Show Spoiler + Trigger("Players"){ Conditions: Elapsed Time(At least, 0); Actions: Set Resources("Current Player", Set To, 50, ore); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Players"){ Conditions: Command("Current Player", "Buildings", At most, 0); Actions: Defeat(); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Players"){ Conditions: Command("Non Allied Victory Players", "Buildings", At most, 0); Actions: Victory(); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("Players"){ Conditions: Accumulate("Current Player", At least, 82, ore); Accumulate("Current Player", At most, 881, ore); Actions: Set Resources("Current Player", Add, 1, gas); Preserve Trigger(); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Trigger("All players"){ Conditions: Always(); Actions: MemoryAddr(0x006509a0, Set To, 0); Preserve Trigger(); } //-----------------------------------------------------------------// The result is: ![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/9Kf6B8q/Screenshot-20260513-160439.png) There's an issue with video, in that my graphics card generates 240 frames a second, but starcraft generates a frame every 42 ms so there's times where it doesn't match up. So with 15000 gas it means that for 100 trips it took exactly 150 frames a trip and I need to update literally every table | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines965 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/live/9fahJ0x8pj8?si=p7nmhal2g8xpLAf6&t=15647 | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10569 Posts
On July 10 2026 10:32 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: 4:20:47 soma found a consistent way to get the left side #9 boost, now his left side timings are about as fast as his right side timings https://www.youtube.com/live/9fahJ0x8pj8?si=p7nmhal2g8xpLAf6&t=15647 Looks like a return cargo boost about half way back to the hatch. I know sometimes it will boost itself if you line it up correctly (drone has to deliver to the very left side of the hatch otherwise it will do the weird diagonal return). | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines965 Posts
On July 11 2026 04:56 FlaShFTW wrote: Looks like a return cargo boost about half way back to the hatch. I know sometimes it will boost itself if you line it up correctly (drone has to deliver to the very left side of the hatch otherwise it will do the weird diagonal return). didn't know you played zerg from what i see he right-clicks on the hatchery two times... i've hit it once with this method but can't get the timing consistent | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines965 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10569 Posts
On July 11 2026 13:21 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: didn't know you played zerg from what i see he right-clicks on the hatchery two times... i've hit it once with this method but can't get the timing consistent I played Zerg the last CPL season just to learn and first thing I did was learn some boosting patterns haha. | ||
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