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XCetron
5226 Posts
On September 12 2007 07:47 Superiorwolf wrote: Uhh... no, he blocks the outside so the probes can't get to nexus, so the probes are stuck between pylon and mineral patches... I think he meant that since the pylon is now there its creating a longer mining path for the other probes around it. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On September 12 2007 07:54 XCetron wrote: I think he meant that since the pylon is now there its creating a longer mining path for the other probes around it. No... the discussion earlier was about probes jumping OVER the pylon, if it was just a longer mining path: 1. No need to jump over 2. Huge waste of minerals | ||
LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
On September 12 2007 08:08 Superiorwolf wrote: i think XCetron interpreted pooper-scooper's post correctly...No... the discussion earlier was about probes jumping OVER the pylon, if it was just a longer mining path: 1. No need to jump over 2. Huge waste of minerals | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9111 Posts
On September 11 2007 19:01 micronesia wrote: Why do tosses fake air weapons instead of singularity in pvt then? Micro, it's because air weapons only ties up 100/100 instead of 150/150. and... On September 11 2007 14:23 SonuvBob wrote: Handy refund list: Building cancel: 75% Unit cancel: 100% Upgrade cancel: 100% Queued units when building is destroyed: 100% Queued upgrade when building is destroyed: 75% Woah, never knew about qued upgrade when building destroyed. Thats really weird. I woudl've assumed you got back 100% | ||
micronesia
United States24810 Posts
On September 12 2007 08:20 Jonoman92 wrote: I was wondering... you delay the upgrade a moment to make it seem legit anyway. How do you use that extra money before you kill the scouting scv without it looking fishy?Micro, it's because air weapons only ties up 100/100 instead of 150/150. | ||
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dronebabo
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Dark_Luster
Korea (South)438 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
...PP....... XXPPXXXXXX ...XX and you put a Pylon at the Ps and where X is a mineral, would that actually slow down mining less than if you performed a regular manner Pylon? I remember in a PvP this occurred and it seriously seemed to slow the guy down. | ||
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
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mk..))
95 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On September 12 2007 12:44 mk..)) wrote: what about reaver scarabs, I been canceling them crazy in games before they go poof. Auto refund i think | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9111 Posts
On September 12 2007 09:57 micronesia wrote: I was wondering... you delay the upgrade a moment to make it seem legit anyway. How do you use that extra money before you kill the scouting scv without it looking fishy? Have a pylon built in a corner of your base where you make your citadel or better yet have it some other random place so there's no chance of him scouting it. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21552 Posts
Same w/interceptors, updated my previous list. | ||
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BalloonFight
United States2007 Posts
On September 11 2007 13:39 il0seonpurpose wrote: Why wouldnt it make a difference? Because if its the same number of probes attacking it, that was tested by the OP, it doesnt matter if they are inside the manner pylon or it they are outside. | ||
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mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Anyways this is flawed. First of all even if you don't trap any probes it fucks up the return and gather, some probes may go behind the minerals to mine the ones that are blocked. 2nd, if he uses any probes to kill the pylon they waste time not mining as well. 3rd it depends on the map/position. Here is another test to try. Have yourself play out a build consisting of building only probes and pylons as fast as possible for 5 minutes. Now have that same build manner pyloned to catch 3, 2, 1, and 0 probes. See the difference at the end and compare them all. (also any good scientist/experimenter will test the same thing a few times and take the average of that for final comparison.) EDIT- Here is the gosu probe clip videos, I re-uploaded on youtube. | ||
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
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Piste
6184 Posts
On September 12 2007 00:42 SonuvBob wrote: Mass Mirror Links: http://rapidshare.com/files/54953973/probejumphorizontal.avi.html http://www.zshare.net/video/3592266ef9660b/ http://www.badongo.com/vid/470577 [url blocked] Thank you!!! <3 | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On September 12 2007 12:20 Equinox_kr wrote: A quick question: if the minerals are like so ... ...PP....... XXPPXXXXXX ...XX and you put a Pylon at the Ps and where X is a mineral, would that actually slow down mining less than if you performed a regular manner Pylon? I remember in a PvP this occurred and it seriously seemed to slow the guy down. Simple. This arrangement can't happen if the probes are all mining. ...PP....... XXPPXXXXXX ...XX The probe in bold would not be in that location. For him to be there, the only mineral he can mine off of is the one below him and to the left on a diagonal, however, the probe to his left is already mining there. He will either stack up on the probe below him, or he will move to another patch. The worst case scenario is: ...P..P....... XXPPXXXXXX ...XX However, if that happens, just wait for the top right probe to take minerals back to the nexus and then put the pylon: ..P[ ]...... XXPPXXXXXX ...XX You won't always get the chance to manner pylon. A good player may try to stop you by placing probes directly in your path. That said, if you get a chance to pull it off successfully, it can be very beneficial, especially if you play aggressively. | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
Yes, Pyloning those minerals will slow down mining, but I doubt it would be more than a manner Pylon. You've isolated the same minerals but haven't trapped anything. | ||
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