! [G] Mutalisk Guide - Page 4

On August 31 2007 09:44 ArC_man wrote:

I wanted to address this point as well. I've actually been messing around with Muta vs Scourge for a bit and I've been able to pretty much get results like the pros (instead of mutas being around 2 muta length away from the scourge, I can get the muta to turn around and hit the scourge at around 3/4 muta length away and still be able to run away safely from the rest of the pack). I think the Chinese technique is the basis of what pros use but they are missing one little key that seem to make the muta attack faster, the position of the patrol click. When I was dicking around with the a muta vs scourge map, it seemed to me that the muta attack much faster if you patrol click close to them (close as in really close, almost right on the mutas). Try this on the muta vs scourge maps: once you do the 1st click (~90 degrees) to make the muta turn, immediately p+click just behind the mutas themselves and you'll find that the mutas almost instantly turn, attack and are free to move again instead of making a small loop. I actually found this out cause I tried to individually target each scourge (with patrol... I was being stupid -.-zz).

The GG.net technique doesn't seem to work for me cause the mutas take a lot more time to accelerate if you don't guide them by turning them. I think the key points really to the micro is turning (getting the muta to turn a bit first so they don't slow down), and positioning of the click so they attack as fast as possible.

Edit: About the part of muta vs hydra, the point of muta vs hydra isn't for mutas to kill the hydras cause straight up hydras will beat mutas. The point is for the mutas to take the damage while your ground ling army rapes his hydras. Mutaling isn't about mutas killing stuff, it's about lings owning stuff up cause they're so imbalanced and do too much damage.

I also made a little clip of muta vs scourge. It's basically the Chinese technique but applied for scourge at close distance. I tried to let the scourge get as close as possible so I could demonstrate it but I suck so I got hit a lot... hopefully it shows what I was trying to say
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=7CFD2A5B265CED16
You'll see that patrol close up works a lot better on scourge that are closer to you but against scourge that are farther away your mutas will just turn around and act stupid (I do it in the video) so I think patrol closer to the mutas when the scourge are close and farther away when the scourge are farther should do the trick.

On September 01 2007 18:33 BluzMan wrote:
A really nice guide, although I've got something to add.

If you watch GGPlay's games vs either Iris or Flash, I can't remember, you can see him doing his muta control somewhat weirdly. He has a large bunch of mutas there, it's likely 11, and he either uses Hold or attack-move to attack with them. Doing so he's able to attack multiple rines per raid, killing 2-3 in a strike. Crazy stuff, but I'm not exactly sure on how it's done.

On September 01 2007 09:03 houseurmusic wrote:
I wanted to address this point as well. I've actually been messing around with Muta vs Scourge for a bit and I've been able to pretty much get results like the pros (instead of mutas being around 2 muta length away from the scourge, I can get the muta to turn around and hit the scourge at around 3/4 muta length away and still be able to run away safely from the rest of the pack). I think the Chinese technique is the basis of what pros use but they are missing one little key that seem to make the muta attack faster, the position of the patrol click. When I was dicking around with the a muta vs scourge map, it seemed to me that the muta attack much faster if you patrol click close to them (close as in really close, almost right on the mutas). Try this on the muta vs scourge maps: once you do the 1st click (~90 degrees) to make the muta turn, immediately p+click just behind the mutas themselves and you'll find that the mutas almost instantly turn, attack and are free to move again instead of making a small loop. I actually found this out cause I tried to individually target each scourge (with patrol... I was being stupid -.-zz).

The technique where you patrol click just infrtont of the mutas then click back in the same direction doesn't work on a scorge that has targetted you. It just works vs a scouge that was a click near you and is following you now.

On September 02 2007 02:13 ZerG~LegenD wrote:

Of course it works on scourges that are attacking you too, it's just that even if you kill one the next one might catch up. But the chinese triangle is even worse in that matter as it wastes more time standing still/moving in the wrong direction.

To this date there is not one single technique, lan nor bnet, not even in progaming, that allows you to do a fully moving shot at a target behind you without losing any space at all. That however is not an issue unless the scourges are stacked up, as those closest to catching up will be the ones who die.

On September 02 2007 03:21 houseurmusic wrote:

The good thing about the triangle is not only do the mutas attack so quickly it is that the movements trick the scourge'S (jk) AI into moving the wrong direction giving you more space.

On September 05 2007 22:40 Chill wrote:
This guide is supposed to be practical rather than theoretical. That's why I'm not including things like trapped Zerglings.

On August 31 2007 04:41 Chill wrote:
I didn't include little tricks like this beacuse they're not practical.