EPTWhy did T stop using transition to machinery vs Z?
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Ruff
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so flash decided to come up with builds easier for his hands, and a lot of terrans followed simply because the builds flash invents are just that effective | ||
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Ruff
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bovienchien
Vietnam992 Posts
On October 26 2021 19:04 Ruff wrote: Some years ago most of Terrans were starting TvZ games with M&Ms and then switching to machinery (vultures with mines and tanks). TvZ games were extremely difficult for Zergs at that time. Why did Terrans stop using this successful strategy? Please explain and maybe attach VODs. Before a TvZ starts I always want to take 5 rax into mech that Flash taught me on Youtube. When I am in game, I can't into mech because Z doesn't allow me to take a break. I am really so hard to breath. Finally, M&M is only way to take 49% win rate for Terran players in TvZ from D rank to S rank. Anyway, maybe this is answer for you I lost a game when I have 92 units, 4 base but Zerg have 29 units, 3 bases. ![[image loading]](https://scontent.fvca1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241266908_855833851794732_646427543347268093_n.png?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ZoJoJw0sPmQAX8VsNA6&_nc_ht=scontent.fvca1-2.fna&oh=e7039e4e4d31685ba561b672c5c979f4&oe=6182409D) ![[image loading]](https://scontent.fvca1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/240595093_855833921794725_6894467859460460314_n.png?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=RgKxb-abg-0AX-SIlYc&_nc_ht=scontent.fvca1-1.fna&oh=feb27f49b8aa80dec5b24d54854bf493&oe=618194D0) | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
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BigFan
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On October 27 2021 05:07 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: if you’re talking about the +1 5rax into split map late game mech switch on (4) player maps, i remember flash saying somewhere that it wasn’t because it was ineffective, it was mainly because it takes large toll on his hands, only being able to comfortably do it 1-2 times per day. even with queens becoming meta to counter late mech, wasn’t flash’s tvz winrate still 70%+? so flash decided to come up with builds easier for his hands, and a lot of terrans followed simply because the builds flash invents are just that effective Flash said that he could do it a max of 3 games a day because it's so hard on the wrists. My own understanding is that Zergs have gotten better at muta micro too, and between that, the exposed timing during the mech transition, the maps, the APM requirements to play it effectively, and counters (queens for ex), it's just not a good idea to do it except in specific situations. Basically, a combination of everything. | ||
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