EPT[I] Map solutions to boring ZvZ - Page 2
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On February 13 2013 00:10 arbiter_md wrote: A swarm placed on mineral lines on the map would reduce much the power of mutas and create opportunities for lurker openings or hive tech. And it would completely kill all chance for terran marine/medic drops, vulture drops, tank drops, etc to kill mineral lines. :/ | ||
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Capresis
United States518 Posts
On February 13 2013 00:10 arbiter_md wrote: A swarm placed on mineral lines on the map would reduce much the power of mutas and create opportunities for lurker openings or hive tech. That is a very interesting idea. I think it should be tested! On February 13 2013 03:00 traceurling wrote: Well then that would screw up other matchups, what would yu do early game as Terran if there was a swarm in your mineral line and zerglings or zealots were under it harassing your mineral line? A solution to this would be designing all mains to be walled off ling-tight with just a rax and a supply. I think that might stop 4pools as well, or it certainly would if the T delayed scv production slightly. The rest of the map can be designed terran-favored, with the balance being he has to be extremely vigilant vs drops or the swarm will still screw him. Maybe this is too much of a handicap for T, but maybe not. Should be tested imo! | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On February 13 2013 00:10 arbiter_md wrote: A swarm placed on mineral lines on the map would reduce much the power of mutas and create opportunities for lurker openings or hive tech. So how do we stop zerglings now ? And I'm not even talking about other match ups... | ||
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
On February 13 2013 07:31 corumjhaelen wrote: So how do we stop zerglings now ? And I'm not even talking about other match ups... For ZvZ, more zerglings xD maybe a sunken? | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On February 13 2013 07:55 traceurling wrote: For ZvZ, more zerglings xD maybe a sunken? I cant wait for those 9 pool mirrors. | ||
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Capresis
United States518 Posts
On February 13 2013 07:59 corumjhaelen wrote: I cant wait for those 9 pool mirrors. What would happen if the spawns were  Loki style, with a swarm also at the back nat? You may not be able to defend with sunkens but it would take fewer lings to hold the ramp that would secure both your main and nat. So then zerglings would become less efficient in greater numbers... Then what would happen? | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19367 Posts
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blueblimp
Canada297 Posts
On February 14 2013 16:22 BisuDagger wrote: How about all maps can detect ZvZ and forces each player into a NR10 before units can do damage. This would also suck obviously. The point is to increase the variety of games seen in ZvZ, not to shut out early game shenanigans completely. As an analogy, I'd rather watch a PvZ on Fighting Spirit than Blood Bath. | ||
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1078 Posts
One way of doing it is to have 815 styled ramp, along with a backdoor natural with 2 gases and no gases in main. That way early aggression would be rather hard and most players would opt for fast expo build and this produces longer ZvZ games (although not necessarily more intresting lol) | ||
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