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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 29 2011 04:03 GMT
#21
So OSL counter does not count units in production and has resource count in real time?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8942 Posts
August 29 2011 08:20 GMT
#22
Yes
the moment a unit has started production the resources will drop but the food count will remain until the unit has finished
so if jangbi used 50minerals at 11 and then buiilt his nexus, it is in fact a 12nex. Not 11
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
August 29 2011 08:25 GMT
#23
I think its 12-12-12-14 not 11-11-11-13, OSL only counts units that are built, not in production.
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Mottz
Profile Joined September 2010
Portugal101 Posts
August 29 2011 09:34 GMT
#24
It is a 11 Nexus, I've counted the seconds a probe takes on real time, and i can say with certain its an 11 Nexus.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
August 29 2011 09:49 GMT
#25
There is literally no way you could start a probe, drop a nexus and then a gateway before that probe finishes that early in the game.
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1778 Posts
August 29 2011 11:18 GMT
#26
On August 29 2011 01:31 Harem wrote:
Err, just you know, you can't go off the OSL counting station for Build Orders.

There is a delay so it doesn't match-up with what is currently on screen. (read: not 11nex)


It doesnt include the units thats in production.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 12:17:27
August 29 2011 12:02 GMT
#27
On August 29 2011 18:49 Kiante wrote:
There is literally no way you could start a probe, drop a nexus and then a gateway before that probe finishes that early in the game.


Good point

Edit: On OSL supply count it was, 11-11-12-13 (looking at the minimap)

My guess is

Edit: I've modified this twice after looking at the vod a couple times.

11 nexus
11 gateway
11 probe
12 gas
12 probe
13 cyber

?



hehe
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
August 29 2011 14:54 GMT
#28
what does my pvp 12 nex have to do with this thread O.o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 29 2011 16:55 GMT
#29
I tested a the build and it's 12-12-12-14 (timing wise) not 11-11-11-13 but then agian idk how the osl counters work but i say it's 12-12-12-14
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Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
August 29 2011 16:58 GMT
#30
It cant be. Look at how long the OGN counter stays on 11. Its taking ages, a 12nexus probe wouldve been done in the interval.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 29 2011 17:57 GMT
#31
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2454 Posts
August 30 2011 05:46 GMT
#32
I love the way all these people rumble into the thread trying to be smart with their little piece of knowledge about the OSL unit counting station, and just get everything completely wrong.
The original Bogus fan.
repsac
Profile Joined March 2011
91 Posts
August 30 2011 06:26 GMT
#33
OSL unit counter only updates when the unit is on the map.
repsac
Profile Joined March 2011
91 Posts
August 30 2011 06:28 GMT
#34
11 nexus
11 gateway
11 probe
12 gas
12 probe
13 cyber

sounds right, it's the old stork optional 2nd zealot @ 15/17 (defensive expand)
repsac
Profile Joined March 2011
91 Posts
August 30 2011 06:36 GMT
#35
with this build u can cancel probe at 16 and push out a zealot if cheese rush incoming and hold pretty much always, with 13/14 nex you simply don't have that option and are liable to get bunkered and have to sac the nexus.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 07:19:37
August 30 2011 07:17 GMT
#36
Jangbi wasn't building a probe when the nexus was put down, you can tell because the supply never jumped to 12.

This was definitely

11-nex
11-gate
probe

Watch the minerals

it went from 40X to 15X to single digit then 5X then just X

So nex, gate, then probe
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
August 30 2011 09:04 GMT
#37
On August 29 2011 23:54 Kiante wrote:
what does my pvp 12 nex have to do with this thread O.o


Partly jokes, partly proving your point right about the probe timing (for other people).

On August 30 2011 14:46 Turbovolver wrote:
I love the way all these people rumble into the thread trying to be smart with their little piece of knowledge about the OSL unit counting station, and just get everything completely wrong.


Ok so what is it genius?
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phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
August 30 2011 10:22 GMT
#38
On August 29 2011 01:31 Harem wrote:
Err, just you know, you can't go off the OSL counting station for Build Orders.

There is a delay so it doesn't match-up with what is currently on screen. (read: not 11nex)


I think the delay is that their counter doesn't count building units, which the in game counter does.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6184 Posts
August 30 2011 13:12 GMT
#39
On August 30 2011 02:57 krndandaman wrote:
yeah no way that's a regular 12 nex. gateway was placed way too fast after the nex

well if it was 11nex, then there would be longer time gap between nexus and gateway, since obviously more probes gather faster minerals than if there were fewer..
That's the truth, even tho 11nex 11gateway are both build faster than 12nex and 12gate
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
August 30 2011 20:23 GMT
#40
On August 30 2011 22:12 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 02:57 krndandaman wrote:
yeah no way that's a regular 12 nex. gateway was placed way too fast after the nex

well if it was 11nex, then there would be longer time gap between nexus and gateway, since obviously more probes gather faster minerals than if there were fewer..
That's the truth, even tho 11nex 11gateway are both build faster than 12nex and 12gate

Look at the video dude. Jangbis nex timing was slightly off, he had 450 minerals when he plopped the nexus down. So he could get a reasonably quick follow up gate
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