[H] Saturation as Zerg - Page 2

On November 07 2013 15:39 iamthegod wrote:
Well I just wanted to speed things up. To get spam rolled up asap.
And since in single player bases are usually taken I must first get saturation and then fight for the expos.

On October 20 2010 12:02 SubtleArt wrote:
Did it ever occur to you to use the search function and liquipedia instead of a 1-line question?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Zerg_Strategy

Look, first page of the Zerg strategy section:





Well yea, you generally have 2 hatcheries per base, so that sounds about right.

On November 23 2013 19:55 Golgotha wrote:
that 5 drones per hatchery thing on liquipedia is really confusing for newcomers.

On November 23 2013 23:52 goody153 wrote:

i am having a horrible time learning zerg .. and from what i understand .. after saturating a hatch with 5 drones i should start pumping units .. am i getting it right ?

On November 24 2013 01:06 vOdToasT wrote:
Liquipedia is so dangerous for beginners. It's damage is amplified because people keep recommending it, even though it says things that are just straight up incorrect all over the place.

For example, it says that sniping templars with mutalisks should not be attempted if the protoss has lots of dragoons.
It doesn't mention corsairs. If it had said that it should never be attempted if the Protoss has a certain number of corsairs, it would have been incorrect and oversimplified, but at least it wouldn't have been as bad...

Just terrible.

It also talks about 2 gate observer like a valid build order in PvT (A standard one, even), and the mindset it encourages when talking about how fast to expand in PvT is that of a beginner who lacks understanding. Not helpful at all.

I think Liquipedia should just be a bunch of strategy guides. A game like StarCraft, which is constantly changing, has so many different ways to be played, and that forces you to react differently in each unique game, is not well suited for Liquipedia's format. There is no way you can have one strategy prepared for every scenario. You have to think of what to do during each unique game, as a reaction to your situation. Therefor, mindsets and principles are what beginners should learn (after getting some decent mechanics)

On November 24 2013 02:43 Golgotha wrote:
we need more stuff like what nina and pauline did. modern guides. bw liquipedia is too outdated and skeletal now.

On November 24 2013 06:23 GeckoXp wrote:


How about editing it? Like, actually log-in and press the edit button.

On November 24 2013 06:23 GeckoXp wrote:


How about editing it? Like, actually log-in and press the edit button.

On November 24 2013 08:53 GeckoXp wrote:
dont complain then

On November 24 2013 13:53 evilfatsh1t wrote:

wtf is with your attitude?
the people complaining about liquipedia being bad are the people who dont have the knowledge to edit it, if they did then they wouldnt be on it in the first place. and the people who do have the knowledge dont care about liquipedia anymore because they dont use it. unless youve actually been editing liquipedia yourself dont talk shit

On November 24 2013 11:43 vOdToasT wrote:


I don't believe in the format

It would be like turning SC2 in to a good game.

On November 24 2013 13:53 evilfatsh1t wrote:

wtf is with your attitude?
the people complaining about liquipedia being bad are the people who dont have the knowledge to edit it, if they did then they wouldnt be on it in the first place. and the people who do have the knowledge dont care about liquipedia anymore because they dont use it. unless youve actually been editing liquipedia yourself dont talk shit

On November 24 2013 13:02 Golgotha wrote:


I would edit but I am a D-D rank zerg. Can you edit for us?

On November 25 2013 00:18 Larvator wrote:
Gecko you edit liquidpedia's articles about tournaments and players, and that's very nice of you, you doing it very well. But to edit strategy part of liquidpedia you have to be very-very good player, a progamer. If you want liquidpedia to be a source of reliable knowledge of course. So surely people don't feel that their knowledge of game is enough to write a correct guide for liquidpedia. You can't blame them for that.