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[Request] Mining speeds and expanding?

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suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
July 03 2004 06:28 GMT
#1
I've always been puzzled is it worth to risk expand in some cases if even your hatchery could be found and be annihilated with the workers. Is risky expanding really a waste of your minerals that could be used on units? Some strange end game situations it might be critial but lets not bring that or vespene into this situation at all.

So my request is:

Could anyone calculate, example how many minutes would 12 or 24 SCVs/Probes/Drones have to mine to get over 400 minerals (in this case the cost of nexus or command center). Lets assume that these workers were transferred from another mineral spot to make things abit easier with the calculating.

I know workers have different mining speeds, and of course, I would grateful if someone could do calculations on every race, but one will do.

Happy calculating!
+suffeli
Zerg0
Profile Joined June 2004
149 Posts
July 03 2004 08:36 GMT
#2
it will take 1 minute for 12 workers to mine 400.
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-03 09:23:51
July 03 2004 09:00 GMT
#3
4 workers mined 400 ore in 101 sec = 0.99009900990099009900990099009901 ore per second per worker
3 workers mined 400 ore in 131 sec = 1.0178117048346055979643765903308 ore per second per worker
2 workers mined 400 ore in 175 sec = 1.1428571428571428571428571428571 ore per second per worker
1 worker mined 400 ore in 336 sec = 1.1904761904761904761904761904762 ore per second per worker

so i really dont know what to think, these results are inconsistent with eachother by a significant about (30+ secs)

for instance. going by the factor u get with any of these times, u could get:

1 worker mines 400 minerals in 404 sec.
1 worker mines 400 minerals in 392 sec.
1 worker mines 400 minerals in 350 sec.
1 worker mines 400 minerals in 336 sec.

this is why chem lab sucked. never come up with the answer ur supposed to.
Zerg0
Profile Joined June 2004
149 Posts
July 03 2004 10:55 GMT
#4
i got the highest grade 3rd quarter for my CHemistry class at 102.00 and A's the rest of the quarters at Oakton HS, competetive HS that feeds students into great colleges like UVA.

But i'm lazy on forums so...
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
July 03 2004 23:00 GMT
#5
I calculated at some time that about 12 workers mine either 400 or 1000 minerals in one minute, so if your expo runs for just one minute, there is no loss of money if it is destroyed, provided you save the workers.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
July 03 2004 23:35 GMT
#6
if we're talking about zerg then ALWAYS leave a lord or two by an expo in case your opponent approaches and you can do nothing to stop it just to pick up your drones and run
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Hoops
Profile Joined April 2004
417 Posts
July 04 2004 02:05 GMT
#7
and that's why they call it gambling. Also you want gas from expos anyway...and you can't really set a value on extra gas.
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
July 04 2004 10:40 GMT
#8
Thanks!

This explains the value of expoing, even with small amount of workers and if can't secure all of them, you still usually gain more than you lose. Now I finally understand why NTT was the real constant-scv-making god.
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
July 04 2004 11:48 GMT
#9
if you know matchups good enough you can figure it's worth it to expand based on the chance of the opponent doing a strat that will kill it and how long it would be before it's killed. every expo lost is not always a mistake, sometimes its just a very wise calculated risk getting unlucky
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
July 06 2004 01:44 GMT
#10
On July 03 2004 19:55 Zerg0 wrote:
i got the highest grade 3rd quarter for my CHemistry class at 102.00 and A's the rest of the quarters at Oakton HS, competetive HS that feeds students into great colleges like UVA.

But i'm lazy on forums so...


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