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[Spoiler] SKT1 vs Oz PL Grand Final Interviews - Page 6

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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
August 09 2009 04:40 GMT
#101
YAAA FANTASYYYY
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 09 2009 04:58 GMT
#102
Damnit Jaedong... >.>
the throws never bothered me anyway
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 09 2009 05:02 GMT
#103
On August 09 2009 13:25 ForSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 11:55 StarBrift wrote:
I really hope some other team picks up JD with the free agent deal. Oz does not deserve someone as talented and hard working as him. He has carried the team by himself for far too long. It's time for a change. Jaedong to KT FINGER BOOM PLEASE!

Jesus no. It's like every player that has ever gone to finger boom starts sucking like crazy.

to be fair Luxury did win MSL in KT

And why would Jaedong being in KT Fingerboom help him?!
Thats like sending a 1940 Jewish Family in England to Warsaw just because "They won't get hit by Bombs anymore"
dats racist
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 09 2009 05:12 GMT
#104
Because then Jaedong will be able to practice with better people, because it's not like Jaedong can practice with peopl from other tea- Oh wait...
Jaedong
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
August 09 2009 05:52 GMT
#105
On August 09 2009 06:43 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 06:04 mog87 wrote:
On August 09 2009 05:56 Zona wrote:

Hmm, Boxer has been acknowledging that he can't play to the level of the current players. It's sort of sad? But I'm glad he's facing reality. He still looked really happy when his teammates won, so I guess he's adopting to his new role?


Thanks kona for the translation.


Stop reading too much into it, its more likely that hes saying because Hes boxer, aka the cheesemaster, its more difficult for him to win on the big stage with a strategy like that as one would be very suspicious and cautious of him, the 2 points supporting this is that earlier he just said he beat Hyuk with it and this quote "I won many games with good strategies so I don't think I could have done it (laughs)". Anyone can do it, its a matter of getting away with it. So no Boxer hasnt given up or tossed in the towel yet.


Also what the hell does Jaedong care who fantasy is talking to, he could be talking to boxer or oov its not a given jaedong would expect something from who he is talking to, more likely he wouldnt draw any conclusion from it, even more likely is that he would be talking to his own coaches prepping and preparing. Fantasy's build was sneaky, but I cant even say it approaches the level of Casy's trick on July. That was just pure ridiculous.

Lul, you are so bitter in this comment.

First off, there's no reason to get into a hissy fit over Zona's comment. He simply misread it and drew reasonable conclusions off of that.

Second off, you never know. Fantasy/Boxer/Oov (forget which) even said that they saw the Oz players looking at them a lot.


Who is bitter? I dont like OZ or JD really. I wasnt in a hissy fit, I was just bluntly correcting the situation, as well as stating my opinion that Casy's play was way more ballsy and on a whole different level.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 09 2009 05:53 GMT
#106
On August 09 2009 14:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Because then Jaedong will be able to practice with better people, because it's not like Jaedong can practice with peopl from other tea- Oh wait...


I know Fantasy said he practiced a lot within the by clan. I'm not sure I know anyone else in the ndie clan nor have they stated their relationship to eachother. The by clan is made up of a couple of great (lol pun, by.great) people to practice with.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 05:56:06
August 09 2009 05:55 GMT
#107
I never bought into this whole practice partners thing. It's more about how much stress your teammates can take off you. If JD slumps (unlikely), it won't be because of bad practice partners, but because of burnout.
Also, who wouldn't want to practice with him? I mean he gets a lot of help for critical matches, like the last OSL finals.
Jaedong
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 09 2009 06:06 GMT
#108
Wow, I didn't know there were mindgames like that outside of the games.
Go SKT!
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
August 09 2009 06:10 GMT
#109
Boxer returns to SKT1, SKT1 wins Proleague. Imagine that
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 06:23:52
August 09 2009 06:22 GMT
#110
Since there is a question of 'practicing with other teams' I will say what (T)Sea[Shield] has told me directly about practicing with other teams. I hope this gets quoted or stapled into everyone's head once in the future

MrHoon: Hey Sea, I was wondering how often progamers PRACTICE with other teams? Because in alot of interviews S-Class players always thank players like Jaehoon and etc. If you guys do practice often, how long/how many matches do you practice with them?

Sea[Shield]: A common misconception is that when we say we got help from other teams is that people believe we do this for like 10 hours. This is wrong. When we say in interviews "Thank you progamer X for practicing with me" we say that because we really don't have anything else to say and it makes the other player happy; common courtesy I guess. When another teammate even practices 1 game with us we are very happy and thankful, but most of our games are inhouse. We may play around with other gamers but practicing with opposite teams do not happen much as...
A) There are many many teammates to practice with so chances are you will always have a practice partner
B) If there is no-one to practice with, we will practice with online practice partners people first rather than other teams. It isn't good in the future if you practice with other teams if you catch my drift.
C) Training schedules are different for everyteam. Also during practice sessions we are usually not allowed to even get on Battle.Net or 3rd party servers.

Stork Hyung and I are very very close, but even then we really can't play together that often unless it's vacation or a holiday or like my team you didn't advance to Playoffs (laugh).


Then we proceeded to eat steak
dats racist
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
August 09 2009 06:38 GMT
#111
fantasy is awesome - watching this Boxer/oov hybrid kick ass easily makes him my favorite SKT player to watch

oov is becoming more likable to me - crying after the win and being humble?

As usual thanks for the translation!
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
August 09 2009 06:42 GMT
#112
Awesome job Kona!
Aw oov apologizing. I personally like his bold statements.. makes things so much more interesting :3

I honestly didn't particularly like/dislike T1 that much before, but watching them through these finals and reading their interviews goes to show how hard they worked and prepared; T1 just really deserved this. <3
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
August 09 2009 06:52 GMT
#113
can't believe so many of these comments, like there's some ridiculous barrier that you're either in love with jaedong or you think it's hilarious what's occurred and you've gotta add some cruel barb to your opinion in order to incite his fans.

i think it's possible to feel joyful for boxer, oov and all of SKT1 while also feeling tremendously bad for Oz and especially jaedong who had undeniably worked with a superhuman tenacity to achieve what he has and perform well for his team. to see jaedong collapse after his team clearly worked very hard to hoist their champion into the fight, and after jaedong himself worked so hard should be painful and disheartening

disappointed and disgusted to see so few people capable of understanding this with respect for both teams and their players. can't see how you watch proleague this season and come away with such narrow comments
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 07:11:23
August 09 2009 07:11 GMT
#114
On August 09 2009 15:52 Failsafe wrote:
can't believe so many of these comments, like there's some ridiculous barrier that you're either in love with jaedong or you think it's hilarious what's occurred and you've gotta add some cruel barb to your opinion in order to incite his fans.

i think it's possible to feel joyful for boxer, oov and all of SKT1 while also feeling tremendously bad for Oz and especially jaedong who had undeniably worked with a superhuman tenacity to achieve what he has and perform well for his team. to see jaedong collapse after his team clearly worked very hard to hoist their champion into the fight, and after jaedong himself worked so hard should be painful and disheartening

disappointed and disgusted to see so few people capable of understanding this with respect for both teams and their players. can't see how you watch proleague this season and come away with such narrow comments

Well, I guess that's revenge happiness kicking in. JD's a strong player, he's beaten a lot of people's favorite players and teams. Anyone who has lovers always has haters.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 09 2009 07:13 GMT
#115
Goddamn! i nerdraged all day yesterday cause JD got fucking cheesed by fantasy, i have calmed down today and i realised it was a fucking excellent finals performance from all players. Sure JD lost 3 games but the first one vs fantasy was really porn for any starcraft fan with excellent play from both players. His game vs hyuk was extremely mindboggling. I have no idea what possessed him to make a risky 12 hatch when he's clearly the superior player. The last game vs fantasy made me feel so bad for him, he 12 pooled to be safe but got tricked by fantasy's wall and thus unable to defend himself. I don't think any zerg player in the world could have defended against that strategy the first time it was used so even though lame it was certainly brilliant.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 09 2009 07:18 GMT
#116
On August 09 2009 14:53 Railz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 14:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Because then Jaedong will be able to practice with better people, because it's not like Jaedong can practice with peopl from other tea- Oh wait...


I know Fantasy said he practiced a lot within the by clan. I'm not sure I know anyone else in the ndie clan nor have they stated their relationship to eachother. The by clan is made up of a couple of great (lol pun, by.great) people to practice with.


You every heard of a guy named Flash? Before he was Flash, he was by.Flash. It's added hype to any Flash-Fantasy game, combined with the fact that they represent one of the greatest e-sports rivalries every, the KTF-SKT1 rivalry.

Thanks for the interview bit, MrHoon, where you asked Sea about practice partners. I wonder if they talk strat or they just play. That sounds very different from when practice partners are "called" by one side or the other (I think this was mentioned in a PvP interview...I think Best-Stork from the Incruit OSL?).
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
August 09 2009 07:23 GMT
#117
On August 09 2009 15:52 Failsafe wrote:
can't believe so many of these comments, like there's some ridiculous barrier that you're either in love with jaedong or you think it's hilarious what's occurred and you've gotta add some cruel barb to your opinion in order to incite his fans.

i think it's possible to feel joyful for boxer, oov and all of SKT1 while also feeling tremendously bad for Oz and especially jaedong who had undeniably worked with a superhuman tenacity to achieve what he has and perform well for his team. to see jaedong collapse after his team clearly worked very hard to hoist their champion into the fight, and after jaedong himself worked so hard should be painful and disheartening

disappointed and disgusted to see so few people capable of understanding this with respect for both teams and their players. can't see how you watch proleague this season and come away with such narrow comments


Agreed!

As much as I like JD, I have to say that SKT is very powerful as of now. Their lineup is as dominant as JD's play. Hopefully, JD will not fall from his emotions. He looks devastated after the finals.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like pandabearguy.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 09 2009 07:42 GMT
#118
On August 09 2009 16:18 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 14:53 Railz wrote:
On August 09 2009 14:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Because then Jaedong will be able to practice with better people, because it's not like Jaedong can practice with peopl from other tea- Oh wait...


I know Fantasy said he practiced a lot within the by clan. I'm not sure I know anyone else in the ndie clan nor have they stated their relationship to eachother. The by clan is made up of a couple of great (lol pun, by.great) people to practice with.


You every heard of a guy named Flash? Before he was Flash, he was by.Flash. It's added hype to any Flash-Fantasy game, combined with the fact that they represent one of the greatest e-sports rivalries every, the KTF-SKT1 rivalry.

Thanks for the interview bit, MrHoon, where you asked Sea about practice partners. I wonder if they talk strat or they just play. That sounds very different from when practice partners are "called" by one side or the other (I think this was mentioned in a PvP interview...I think Best-Stork from the Incruit OSL?).


I know that Flash is in the by clan. Thats the reason I even brought it up. Fantasy said Flash, him, and Kal are all very close which is the only reason that lead me to believe that clan mates actually hold a priority in a gamers life and maybe in silent practice.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 09 2009 07:43 GMT
#119
On August 09 2009 16:13 nttea wrote:
Goddamn! i nerdraged all day yesterday cause JD got fucking cheesed by fantasy, i have calmed down today and i realised it was a fucking excellent finals performance from all players. Sure JD lost 3 games but the first one vs fantasy was really porn for any starcraft fan with excellent play from both players. His game vs hyuk was extremely mindboggling. I have no idea what possessed him to make a risky 12 hatch when he's clearly the superior player. The last game vs fantasy made me feel so bad for him, he 12 pooled to be safe but got tricked by fantasy's wall and thus unable to defend himself. I don't think any zerg player in the world could have defended against that strategy the first time it was used so even though lame it was certainly brilliant.



Poor Fantasy could've used that strategy in the Semi-finals but nooo~... Now he has to make up something else =(
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
August 09 2009 07:47 GMT
#120
MrHoon: Hey Sea, I was wondering how often progamers PRACTICE with other teams? Because in alot of interviews S-Class players always thank players like Jaehoon and etc. If you guys do practice often, how long/how many matches do you practice with them?

Sea[Shield]: A common misconception is that when we say we got help from other teams is that people believe we do this for like 10 hours. This is wrong. When we say in interviews "Thank you progamer X for practicing with me" we say that because we really don't have anything else to say and it makes the other player happy; common courtesy I guess. When another teammate even practices 1 game with us we are very happy and thankful, but most of our games are inhouse. We may play around with other gamers but practicing with opposite teams do not happen much as...
A) There are many many teammates to practice with so chances are you will always have a practice partner
B) If there is no-one to practice with, we will practice with online practice partners people first rather than other teams. It isn't good in the future if you practice with other teams if you catch my drift.
C) Training schedules are different for everyteam. Also during practice sessions we are usually not allowed to even get on Battle.Net or 3rd party servers.

Stork Hyung and I are very very close, but even then we really can't play together that often unless it's vacation or a holiday or like my team you didn't advance to Playoffs (laugh).


Thanks for the info! I also held this misconception all this time...

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