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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
On August 09 2009 16:43 Railz wrote: Poor Fantasy could've used that strategy in the Semi-finals but nooo~... Now he has to make up something else =( would be so cool, and kinda unexcpeted if he did the same build  | ||
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
On August 09 2009 16:43 Railz wrote: Poor Fantasy could've used that strategy in the Semi-finals but nooo~... Now he has to make up something else =( OSL doesn't compare to proleague though.. especially this season, this was probably the biggest starcraft event there will ever be. | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
I feel so bloody bad for JD though, I get stomach aches whenever I think of this finals. I cant even imagine how he feels.. Damn.. OSL and MSL is yours to take though Jaedong! GOGO HWAITING! | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
such a cute strategy in ACE match , talking to oov instead of Boxer that was pimp | ||
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ReiKo
Croatia1023 Posts
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latent
United States428 Posts
I realize it's a part of Oriental culture to work until one drops dead, or in iloveoov's case ends up in the hospital, but a little pragmatism would help their cause a great deal. Interestingly, in China when one practices Tai Chi (what "Kung Fu" is derived from) there is a sort of rule that practitioners apply to themselves. They say if you practice for 3 hours a day, it will take you 24 years (give or take a few) to learn how to control your "chi". If you practice for 6 hours it will take you 12 years. But if you practice for 12 hours a day it will again take you 24 years. If you practice for 18 hours a day it will take you over 30 years. The point is that even in the martial arts they recognize a limit to what the body and mind are capable of digesting in a single day. There are also similarities with many professional sports athletes. | ||
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blipster8
United States71 Posts
On August 09 2009 03:39 geod wrote: They are dominating everyone right now dude. what are you talking about? And since round 3 their zerg line up has >50% win. It's not strong but also defenitivel not weak. I'd guess his point was that T1's Z lineup is weak by comparison to its other races'. And there are different definitions of domination. SKT just won the Proleague, and they were favorites going into the final, but the outcome was by no means a sure thing. He was just saying that if they had a Z as good as Fantasy and Bisu, it would be like the opposite of ACE's matches: no one who was looking for close games would watch, because virtually every series would just be rape. | ||
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geod
Vietnam450 Posts
On August 10 2009 09:50 blipster8 wrote: I'd guess his point was that T1's Z lineup is weak by comparison to its other races'. And there are different definitions of domination. SKT just won the Proleague, and they were favorites going into the final, but the outcome was by no means a sure thing. He was just saying that if they had a Z as good as Fantasy and Bisu, it would be like the opposite of ACE's matches: no one who was looking for close games would watch, because virtually every series would just be rape. Ok let say they have Calm instead of Hyuk. So how different would the result become? | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On August 10 2009 04:51 latent wrote: The whole "cutting sleep" thing is really ineffective. There's a limit to how much one's brain can digest in a day, and sleep is especially crucial to digesting what one has learned or practiced over the course of the day. Overworking, especially to the point of losing on sleep, has a serious negative effect on one's decision-making abilities. Plenty of studies over the years have demonstrated the negative effects of sleep-deprivation again and again. I realize it's a part of Oriental culture to work until one drops dead, or in iloveoov's case ends up in the hospital, but a little pragmatism would help their cause a great deal. Interestingly, in China when one practices Tai Chi (what "Kung Fu" is derived from) there is a sort of rule that practitioners apply to themselves. They say if you practice for 3 hours a day, it will take you 24 years (give or take a few) to learn how to control your "chi". If you practice for 6 hours it will take you 12 years. But if you practice for 12 hours a day it will again take you 24 years. If you practice for 18 hours a day it will take you over 30 years. The point is that even in the martial arts they recognize a limit to what the body and mind are capable of digesting in a single day. There are also similarities with many professional sports athletes. This is a somewhat shortsighted way to look at it. Cutting sleep routinely (or permanently) is definitely not a good thing, but doing it in specific situations is often worthwhile. Just like when you have a test that you're not feeling too prepared for, cutting 2 hours of sleep (not staying up the whole night though) is probably worth it, especially if you can make it up later. While optimally you'd always be prepared enough not to need to cut sleep in the end, that's not realistic (especially in progaming given the erratic nature of the scheduling). | ||
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dcberkeley
Canada844 Posts
On August 09 2009 15:52 Failsafe wrote: can't believe so many of these comments, like there's some ridiculous barrier that you're either in love with jaedong or you think it's hilarious what's occurred and you've gotta add some cruel barb to your opinion in order to incite his fans. i think it's possible to feel joyful for boxer, oov and all of SKT1 while also feeling tremendously bad for Oz and especially jaedong who had undeniably worked with a superhuman tenacity to achieve what he has and perform well for his team. to see jaedong collapse after his team clearly worked very hard to hoist their champion into the fight, and after jaedong himself worked so hard should be painful and disheartening disappointed and disgusted to see so few people capable of understanding this with respect for both teams and their players. can't see how you watch proleague this season and come away with such narrow comments Effort lead CJ through hite and Samsung before even getting to the semi-finals with Hwaseung and had to play MSL and GOM at the same time. He played in all of CJ's Super Ace matches and most of their ace matches and he had to face an invincible Jaedong. As far as I know, he never does ceremonies and is a pretty modest guy. And he gets this: On August 01 2009 13:48 vaMpYr wrote: OK NOW WHERE IS YOUR EFFORT OF SHIT PLZ ? FUCK EFFORT DIE EFFORT BYE BYE FUCKING SHIT EFFORT !! I think this is much worse. | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
Boxer: Yeah man, this'll work Coach Park: Eh I dunno.... Boxer: Watch this :pwnage: Coach Park: Oh snap! That'll work! On August 10 2009 04:51 latent wrote: + Show Spoiler + The whole "cutting sleep" thing is really ineffective. There's a limit to how much one's brain can digest in a day, and sleep is especially crucial to digesting what one has learned or practiced over the course of the day. Overworking, especially to the point of losing on sleep, has a serious negative effect on one's decision-making abilities. Plenty of studies over the years have demonstrated the negative effects of sleep-deprivation again and again. I realize it's a part of Oriental culture to work until one drops dead, or in iloveoov's case ends up in the hospital, but a little pragmatism would help their cause a great deal. Interestingly, in China when one practices Tai Chi (what "Kung Fu" is derived from) there is a sort of rule that practitioners apply to themselves. They say if you practice for 3 hours a day, it will take you 24 years (give or take a few) to learn how to control your "chi". If you practice for 6 hours it will take you 12 years. But if you practice for 12 hours a day it will again take you 24 years. If you practice for 18 hours a day it will take you over 30 years. The point is that even in the martial arts they recognize a limit to what the body and mind are capable of digesting in a single day. There are also similarities with many professional sports athletes. I'm getting the impression you take yourself kinda seriously. | ||
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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
China685 Posts
On August 10 2009 04:51 latent wrote: The whole "cutting sleep" thing is really ineffective. There's a limit to how much one's brain can digest in a day, and sleep is especially crucial to digesting what one has learned or practiced over the course of the day. Overworking, especially to the point of losing on sleep, has a serious negative effect on one's decision-making abilities. Plenty of studies over the years have demonstrated the negative effects of sleep-deprivation again and again. I realize it's a part of Oriental culture to work until one drops dead, or in iloveoov's case ends up in the hospital, but a little pragmatism would help their cause a great deal. Interestingly, in China when one practices Tai Chi (what "Kung Fu" is derived from) there is a sort of rule that practitioners apply to themselves. They say if you practice for 3 hours a day, it will take you 24 years (give or take a few) to learn how to control your "chi". If you practice for 6 hours it will take you 12 years. But if you practice for 12 hours a day it will again take you 24 years. If you practice for 18 hours a day it will take you over 30 years. The point is that even in the martial arts they recognize a limit to what the body and mind are capable of digesting in a single day. There are also similarities with many professional sports athletes. Yes, everyone knows that sleep is vital to human health, you need 8 hours a day, etc. But the rest of this post is, not trying to provoke a flame war here, utterly wrong. Let's try to generalize Oriental culture based on South Korean Professional Starcraft gaming. There is no "Oriental culture". In case you haven't noticed or been there, Han Chinese, ethnic minorities throughout Asia, the Japanese, the South Koreans, the Taiwanese, the Vietnamese and whoever else I'm excluding, all have a history of either raiding or killing each other. A Japanese person in Tokyo is not going to have the same "Oriental culture" as a Mongolian nomad. Then, you talk about TaiChi Chuan in China. You'd think that the part of "Oriental culture" that prompts working hard until death directly contradicts the TaiChi Chuan ideal of optimal practicing for Qi control. The players that practice that much and work that hard do it because they have a passion for the game, not because it's injected in some made up supra-national cultural identity. | ||
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ototoxicity
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konadora
Singapore66363 Posts
On August 10 2009 20:51 ototoxicity wrote: no interviews of the losers? I wanna hear what JD has to say Fomos don't do interviews of losers | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
Ahh speaking of team practice can you IMAGINE how sexy Jaedong would be if he practiced 10 hours a day with Bisu/Best/Fantasy/Canata? Of course all of their X vs.Z's would improve as well, and they are his competition in individual leagues... | ||
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