EPTKeSPA Rankings Aug 09 - Page 5
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
Luxury is sucking hard these days. And type-b is impressing me. | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1377 Posts
hoping for a Bisu vs Jaedong MSL final. if Jaedong wins MSL vs Bisu as well as OSL, i think we could nearly call him Bonjwa. but up to now, he still has to prove that he is better than Bisu, the guy who has a 10% better winning rate in proleague than Jaedong and the guy who has as many starleague titles as Jaedong. | ||
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Fluffy Pingu
Australia41 Posts
On August 02 2009 00:44 Shikyo wrote: I guess what matters is how many points the person with the second-highest Kespa ranking have in comparsion to Boxer's. Then again, it doesn't really matter. This just shows us that Jaedong is pretty sick, though. ^_^ I wonder what'll happen if Jaedong wins both the MSL and the OSL. exactly assuming TLPD is right, Yellow had 1871 compared to boxer's 2398, or percentage wise, boxer is 28.17% higher. Where as Jaedong is 28.45% higher than Bisu. So they are roughly the same. Savior was 'only' 26.77% higher than Nada http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2002&month=12&action=Update | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2003&month=1 and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2003&month=2 Boxer lost 1500 points one month O_o? How is boxer points 2500 equal to 5000 if they made it harder Feb 2003 and then slightly made it easier again? | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
As for the Jaedong Bonjwa issue, I think he's got a real shot at this season. We'll see what happens. It seems to me that he's not dominating less or in fewer games than the Bonjwas, it's just over a shorter period of time, which decreases his aura of Bonjwaness. | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1377 Posts
On August 02 2009 00:54 Too_MuchZerg wrote: Then what happened between http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2003&month=1 and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2003&month=2 Boxer lost 1500 points one month O_o? How is boxer points 2500 equal to 5000 if they made it harder Feb 2003 and then slightly made it easier again? he said at that time proleague games werent counted + today they play 2 games a week while they only played 1 per week before | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 02 2009 00:54 Too_MuchZerg wrote: His points from his first OSL dropped off that's why Then what happened between http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2003&month=1 and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2003&month=2 Boxer lost 1500 points one month O_o? How is boxer points 2500 equal to 5000 if they made it harder Feb 2003 and then slightly made it easier again?  Atleast that's what I presume happened... There may have been another change which I am not aware of | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 02 2009 00:46 r3z3nd3 wrote: Expand the quote Agree with your comparisons up to the point it's known when the changes in points were made. But, were ever in history such differences in top 3? My point is, if this system gives more points, why susch difference? He has (to better comparate with another eras) 1.28x what Bisu has, and 1.56x what Flash has. And that is simply complete domination. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On August 02 2009 00:57 Plexa wrote: His points from his first OSL dropped off that's why Atleast that's what I presume happened... There may have been another change which I am not aware of Well everyones points got dropped a lot, so there must have been ranking change that period. Or else OSL and MSL was way overrated than today. | ||
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nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
There was last month of 3rd ShinHan Bank OSL on Feb 2007 and sAviOr had 9 (!) wins from Ro16 to the Final. That’s why he received more KeSPA Points than usual. EDIT: Also sAviOr has 3 wins in Semis of GOMTV MBCGame Starcraft League Season 1 (07-02-15)… | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
and who the hell is type-b?! 22 spots?? | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
On August 01 2009 20:23 Atrioc wrote: Forget the "b-word" - thats up to the Koreans - Lets just give some credit to a pretty goddamn monumental acheivment and a great SC player. This is why I love you so much. <3 | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On August 02 2009 01:03 Too_MuchZerg wrote: The ranking changed from being an all time ranking to a 12 months ranking (which also shows in all the previous months, there are ONLY point gains)Well everyones points got dropped a lot, so there must have been ranking change that period. Or else OSL and MSL was way overrated than today. | ||
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
I got the thing about high points and so.. The thing is that Jaedong is 28% higher than Bisu and 56% higher than Flash. And that's amazing, for any point system you want to use. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
On August 02 2009 00:25 Shikyo wrote: Well.. Heartbreak Ridge is TvZ favored. Byzantium 3 is TvZ favored. Destination is TvZ favored. Shades of Twilight is TvZ favored... I doubt that really is the problem. And it wouldn't make sense to make a completely impossible TvZ map (No gas natural, very difficult to defend third base that has the second gas), that wouldn't really be fair since even if JD won less, no other Zergs could do anything. What I was trying to say is that if Jaedong is to win everything this season it will be a result of long chain of events. Of course the main reason will be his incredible performance this season (approx 80% win rate in all 3 MU), but some other stuff to mention is that protoss suck badly, not even that, but JangBi was retarded enough to speed up the downfall process by trying to gang on Bisu. Flash sucks heavily in TvZ, and his only real rivals this season (no, EffOrt isnt one) are Bisu and fantasy, who killed each other in the MSL. Given the fact that Jaedong is not a sole dominating force in the scene (hello KTY) you have to admit it wont get any easier for JD to achieve all his hall of fame goals such as bonjwa status, golden mouse etc. If you want to win it all you have to play a lot of games ,right... Bisu was in the same situation a while back, but he was just out of his slump and no one considered his rising a bonjwa run till the point where he won 2 SLs back to back. Bisu had to face Stork in the OSL as well, and the gap between these two is considerably smaller in comparison with Jaedong and the next top zerg, which I dont even know who he is. Personally I dont want it to happen for subjective reasons but I'm sure Jaedong will win all titles this season, he has everything on his side. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On August 02 2009 01:07 EpiK wrote: The top three spots will stay this way for a while. I'm kind of surprised that yellow[arnc] is still in the top 10 and that effort is so low.. and who the hell is type-b?! 22 spots?? Why would  YellOw[ArnC] be out of the top 10? He just advanced to the OSL semis and will get to the finals if he manages to beat type-b..Meanwhile EffOrt is out of every individual league.On August 02 2009 01:10 Carnac wrote: The ranking changed from being an all time ranking to a 12 months ranking (which also shows in all the previous months, there are ONLY point gains) Oh well that explains a lot | ||
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Ideas
United States8182 Posts
 fucking gom not being kespa-sanctioned | ||
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DarkOptik
452 Posts
On August 02 2009 01:32 disciple wrote: What I was trying to say is that if Jaedong is to win everything this season it will be a result of long chain of events. Of course the main reason will be his incredible performance this season (approx 80% win rate in all 3 MU), but some other stuff to mention is that protoss suck badly, not even that, but JangBi was retarded enough to speed up the downfall process by trying to gang on Bisu. Flash sucks heavily in TvZ, and his only real rivals this season (no, EffOrt isnt one) are Bisu and fantasy, who killed each other in the MSL. Given the fact that Jaedong is not a sole dominating force in the scene (hello KTY) you have to admit it wont get any easier for JD to achieve all his hall of fame goals such as bonjwa status, golden mouse etc. If you want to win it all you have to play a lot of games ,right... Bisu was in the same situation a while back, but he was just out of his slump and no one considered his rising a bonjwa run till the point where he won 2 SLs back to back. Bisu had to face Stork in the OSL as well, and the gap between these two is considerably smaller in comparison with Jaedong and the next top zerg, which I dont even know who he is. Personally I dont want it to happen for subjective reasons but I'm sure Jaedong will win all titles this season, he has everything on his side. I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about; are you saying that the one of the reasons that Jaedong is winning everything this season is because everyone else...sucks? Your "Flash sucks heavily in TvZ" seems to be implying as such. As for "only real rivals": Bisu and Fantasy? Well, so? When you are at the very peak of the game, how many real rivals do you expect to have? Bisu's only real rival was Stork back when he was at his peak; one can argue perhaps Flash as well. I'm also not particularly sure why you are bringing up Bisu's previous foray into "bonjwa-ness"; what merits does that comparison have? | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
If Jaedong can win both star-leagues that's great, fantastic, amazing even. But let's wait and see if Jaedong can actually do it. It's by no means over yet with Fantasy looking as deadly as ever and Calm truly stepping up his game lately. | ||
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