EPTIdrA vs. Foreigners - Page 8
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 29 2009 02:26 raga4ka wrote: Well draco did beat Midas who made it to WCG grand finals and thats big , Idra has yet to beat an A - teamer . Yea but even if i dislike Idra when he wins with his dull macro style it is more convincing than a cheesy 3 gate goon vs one fact cc by Midas ... | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Were the guys like  ElkY, Smuft,  Rekrul, Nazgul, Legionnaire, GiYom and Assem allowed to participate in foreign tournaments while they were in Hexatron? (I Really don't know, didn't follow the competitive scene back then). | ||
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
On July 29 2009 14:22 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: There's really a simple answer to this question, and it lies in the answer to another question (which that answer will be fact and not opinion). Were the guys like ElkY, Smuft, Rekrul, Nazgul, Legionnaire, GiYom and Assem allowed to participate in foreign tournaments while they were in Hexatron? (I Really don't know, didn't follow the competitive scene back then).Lol, TLPD Fail. On a serious note though, he has a good point. | ||
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On July 29 2009 15:07 heyoka wrote: lol at how everyone spent a year saying how IdrA will always be shit and now banning him from foreign tournaments is winning the poll Well, that was mainly due to everyone falling in love with Nony, while IdrA was being bad manner (and we weren't enjoying it back then) and he wasn't showing the progress he has now shown. Idra now is the only American progamer in korea, so a lot of us like him simply for that reason (and the hope that he suddenly becomes good >.> ). Also, he is winning EVERYTHING, which will always garner you fans  . | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On June 30 2009 06:25 Crimson wrote: Overall though, he is not a Korean, which technically will make him always a foreigner correct? So it's about race; koreans aren't allowed because they are koreans and americans are allowed to play tournaments even though they live in Korea and trains with proteams? People say that koreans aren't born with an innate ability to master RTS games, but they are rather "programmed" to be good with the huge professional scene over there. So why are koreans excluded from foreign tournaments: Because they are too good? No, because they are korean. If Idra can dominate everyone in the foreign scene like koreans do, but is allowed to play because he is white, this borders to discrimination. | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
On July 29 2009 15:01 For_The_Swarm wrote: Lol, TLPD Fail. On a serious note though, he has a good point. Not sure about Grrr, but Assem/Leg/Rekrul did, and I *think* ElkY/Smuft did as well | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On July 29 2009 17:16 Foucault wrote: So it's about race; koreans aren't allowed because they are koreans and americans are allowed to play tournaments even though they live in Korea and trains with proteams? People say that koreans aren't born with an innate ability to master RTS games, but they are rather "programmed" to be good with the huge professional scene over there. So why are koreans excluded from foreign tournaments: Because they are too good? No, because they are korean. If Idra can dominate everyone in the foreign scene like koreans do, but is allowed to play because he is white, this borders to discrimination. This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | ||
jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
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Vex
Ireland454 Posts
On June 27 2009 15:20 AlwaysGG wrote: lol i don't think idra wud join A-team any time soon not even when sc2 come out. i have nothing against him but the gap between korean and foreigner is still very significant He's not even close to progamer level. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On July 29 2009 14:03 Boblion wrote: Yea but even if i dislike Idra when he wins with his dull macro style it is more convincing than a cheesy 3 gate goon vs one fact cc by Midas ... you should probably watch some starcraft sometime idra's play style these days is anything but "dull macro", he's been beasting foreigners with big aggression | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
the kid posts on TL almost every day despite practicing 13 and a half hours a day don't be rude to him just cuz he's good now | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10824 Posts
But if you consider everything: There is no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to play. Yes he gets the best training, but uhm, you can't really hold this against him? Everyone is free to invest as much time and dedication as he wants to Starcraft. As soon (if ever) as he becomes good enough to see proleague action he won't be ablte to play in most/all of these toruneys anyway. It's basically a non-issue. If he gets (way) too good he will have other priorities, if he doesn't he should be allowed to play. | ||
KwarK
United States43350 Posts
Idra shouldn't be able to play in amateur tournaments because he's a professional. That said, I believe most foreigner tournaments should also be amateur tournaments. It's just the assumption until recently was that all foreigners are amateurs and Idra is a recent exception to that rule. | ||
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pre_amp
Australia47 Posts
And it does show, he is dominating all foreigner tournaments. | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
I don't care if he roflstomps everyone in the foreigner community, he should be aloud to play every tournament he qualifies for, ESPECIALLY foreigner tournaments. This Pro vs amateur argument is bullshit, the second you receive a pro license you are a pro-gamer and thus all those who were given licenses or beat courage can't play in their own communities tournaments because they are considered amateur? gtfo. Until he signs a contract which states he cannot participate in any non kespa sanctioned leagues or tournaments for money, then he should be able to play whatever he wants. He is a progamer, who defeats other progamers. how in the fuck is he not progamer level? you people act like this guy is making hundreds of thousands of dollars off foreigner run tourneys, that were reserved for "amateurs" r u for rela? | ||
GTR
51507 Posts
On July 29 2009 17:25 littlechava wrote: Not sure about Grrr, but Assem/Leg/Rekrul did, and I *think* ElkY/Smuft did as well they didn't participate as much as idra does comparatively today, because the foreign tournaments back then didn't provide 'good' prizes (TLT was an exception I guess) | ||
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pre_amp
Australia47 Posts
On July 29 2009 19:08 Etherone wrote: are you serious? only people who fail at life try to ban those who are better then them simply to reach the prize. News flash mofos, if you cannot beat IdrA you do not deserve the prize, HE deserves the prize. I don't care if he roflstomps everyone in the foreigner community, he should be aloud to play every tournament he qualifies for, ESPECIALLY foreigner tournaments. This Pro vs amateur argument is bullshit, the second you receive a pro license you are a pro-gamer and thus all those who were given licenses or beat courage can't play in their own communities tournaments because they are considered amateur? gtfo. Until he signs a contract which states he cannot participate in any non kespa sanctioned leagues or tournaments for money, then he should be able to play whatever he wants. He is a progamer, who defeats other progamers. how in the fuck is he not progamer level? you people act like this guy is making hundreds of thousands of dollars off foreigner run tourneys, that were reserved for "amateurs" r u for rela? are u for real? | ||
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