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BWChart 1.04 Download!

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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 11:41:43
April 12 2009 20:59 GMT
#1
<h2>Now available at http://bwchart.teamliquid.net/ </h2>

All credit to JCA.
I don't have the ability to resolve the fact that he can't upload to bwchart.teamliquid.net--hopefully someone who does will be able to help soon


From JCA
Hi, I still dont have any idea how to update bwchart.com, so here is a new version. I fixed a few bugs, added smooth curves, and a new chart called "Map Coverage". It tells you two things:

1-how much percentage of the map you have buildings on (it doesnt care about buildings that were destroyed, of course)
2-how much percentage of the map you are moving units on (moving=move or attack command)

Those curves work on a 8x8 grid placed over the map, whatever the size of the map. So it's a rough percentage, but it's good enough.

The first curve is a growing curve, like resources, because we dont know if buildings were destroyed.

The second curve is more like APM, because we consider unit movements only. To see that curve you need to check the "Units" check box. Also you can set the curve style (flat, dynamic, etc).

It's quite fascinating to see that on some pro replays, guys are sometimes moving units on almost 50% of the map. Considering a lot of the map is not even usable to place units (cliffs, water, rocks, etc), 50% is impressive.

Too bad I dont have my site on to explain how the computation of the curve is working.

Cheers
JCA

Snapshot showing "Map Coverage" curves and the animated map at a moment where XiaOzl seems to be moving his armies all over the place, while GoOdy is adding buildings in many places too. You can see all the blue dots on the map where XiaOzl is moving units, which corresponds to the peak in his red curve:
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My hat's off to JCA for being one of the best people in the BW community
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
April 12 2009 21:09 GMT
#2
ah yay! Thankz this will be pretty awsome. Glad to know people are still updating stuff
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
April 12 2009 21:11 GMT
#3
Very nice, thanks a bunch
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
April 12 2009 21:14 GMT
#4
You're the best, JCA
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
April 12 2009 21:16 GMT
#5
ty :D
I'm like, the coolest
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 12 2009 21:25 GMT
#6
holy shit. he updated it!.

AWESOME!.

Huge thanks JCA :D

Any chances of..updating APMLive! :$?
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
April 12 2009 21:40 GMT
#7
awesome looking forward to dling this
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
April 12 2009 21:43 GMT
#8
<3
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
April 12 2009 21:50 GMT
#9
looks good, cant wait!
Wan step ahead!
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
April 12 2009 21:58 GMT
#10
I'm so glad JCA is back.
Super serious.
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
April 12 2009 22:00 GMT
#11
oooh, nice nice!!
I feel like pwning noobs
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5209 Posts
April 12 2009 22:03 GMT
#12
awesome, can't wait to DL it. thank you JCA
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
XythOs
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
Germany520 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-12 22:27:34
April 12 2009 22:27 GMT
#13
Thanks alot for your effort!
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
April 12 2009 22:31 GMT
#14
Thanks for your time! It is appreciated!
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Sanity.
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States704 Posts
April 12 2009 22:35 GMT
#15
sweet!!!! Thank you
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 12 2009 22:36 GMT
#16
This is great, thanks JCA
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
April 12 2009 22:57 GMT
#17
Thanks JCA, you're great!
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 12 2009 23:03 GMT
#18
much love!
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-12 23:05:56
April 12 2009 23:04 GMT
#19
why not post this when the download is actually avaiable.
what a tease :p
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
April 12 2009 23:55 GMT
#20
LOL OOPS

I forgot to put the download link as I had to run out the door
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
April 12 2009 23:58 GMT
#21
So awesome! Thank you so much JCA, BWCharts definitely the most awesome SC:BW complement.
Gnojfatelob
Profile Joined April 2008
Belgium216 Posts
April 13 2009 00:13 GMT
#22
<3 gratz
Probably the best starcraft player in the world
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
April 13 2009 00:21 GMT
#23
Too awesome! Just wanted to say thanks to JCA just like everyone else!
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
April 13 2009 00:37 GMT
#24
rounded graphs are nice, though it looks weird when a peak doesn't correspond visually to where the max is marked on the chart
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
April 13 2009 01:14 GMT
#25
awesome!
just a question: how can i figure who player wins just watching the chart??
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
April 13 2009 01:19 GMT
#26
On April 13 2009 05:59 HnR)Insane wrote:

My hat's off to JCA for being one of the best people in the BW community


QFT                                    one crown? fuck that he deserves more
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 13 2009 01:31 GMT
#27
Wow, new update! Thanks a lot.
Brood War loyalist
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
April 13 2009 01:34 GMT
#28
nice nice. haven't tried it yet but new features sounds both interesting and usable.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5209 Posts
April 13 2009 05:12 GMT
#29
bump, thanks for uploading it
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
April 13 2009 07:36 GMT
#30
Interesting addition.

However, I found a bug. On the apm+hotkeys chart the very flat- very dynamic tab does nothing while it works fine on the normal apm chart. It seems as if it it takes the settings from the normal apm chart without properly showing which setting it uses and ignoring it when you attempt to change it. It worked normally in the previous version.
Virveli
Profile Joined November 2008
Finland9 Posts
April 13 2009 08:12 GMT
#31
Awsome update to an awsome tool!
hi
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
April 13 2009 21:26 GMT
#32
GJ! This is really cool!
https://repmastered.icza.net
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
April 14 2009 01:18 GMT
#33
nice
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
April 14 2009 02:16 GMT
#34
BWChart is indispensable. Awesome app. Map coverage seems like a pretty interesting feature.

In the new APM + Hotkeys chart though I can only see the first player. Does anyone know how to view the others?
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Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
April 14 2009 02:35 GMT
#35
On April 14 2009 11:16 riptide wrote:
BWChart is indispensable. Awesome app. Map coverage seems like a pretty interesting feature.

In the new APM + Hotkeys chart though I can only see the first player. Does anyone know how to view the others?

Doubleclick the name of the player that is showing to disable that player, keep doing this until you get the one you want. I think it sorts them based on apm so it will always shows the player with the highest apm that is not disabled.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
April 14 2009 02:41 GMT
#36
awsomeeee

much <3 thanx
ggyo...
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
April 14 2009 07:32 GMT
#37
On April 14 2009 11:35 Dreadwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2009 11:16 riptide wrote:
BWChart is indispensable. Awesome app. Map coverage seems like a pretty interesting feature.

In the new APM + Hotkeys chart though I can only see the first player. Does anyone know how to view the others?

Doubleclick the name of the player that is showing to disable that player, keep doing this until you get the one you want. I think it sorts them based on apm so it will always shows the player with the highest apm that is not disabled.


Thanks a lot!
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
April 14 2009 11:35 GMT
#38
On April 13 2009 10:19 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 05:59 HnR)Insane wrote:

My hat's off to JCA for being one of the best people in the BW community


QFT                                    one crown? fuck that he deserves more


I added some more if you don't mind.
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
April 14 2009 11:49 GMT
#39
This is by far my favourite tool.

Thx a lot
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
April 14 2009 11:58 GMT
#40
been waiting for this for a long time!
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 14 2009 13:38 GMT
#41
nice will update when I'm home
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
xhuwin
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States476 Posts
April 14 2009 18:47 GMT
#42
Thank you!
xyn
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
April 14 2009 19:11 GMT
#43
What the hell does it mean when it says...

Un argument non valide a ete detecte

정명훈 화이팅!~
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 14 2009 19:26 GMT
#44
On April 15 2009 04:11 theobsessed1 wrote:
What the hell does it mean when it says...

Un argument non valide a ete detecte


invalid argument detected?


Its good to see bwchart get updated after such a long time. Good work! Thank you!
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
April 14 2009 20:01 GMT
#45
Thanks :D:D Its surely the most used tool in BW's history!
trancertt
Profile Joined February 2008
Croatia37 Posts
April 14 2009 20:41 GMT
#46
I cant imagine myself watching replays without this
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
April 14 2009 22:42 GMT
#47
i like this version alot better.
wats the most improved feature is the BO analyzer. Before it used to be like 10 builds max or something, and sometimes the BO was wrong... this time its very detailed and right gj!
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
April 14 2009 23:20 GMT
#48
thanks! that building/unit coverage thing is neat!
drp223
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States170 Posts
April 15 2009 17:55 GMT
#49
thanks this is a lot of help to sc noobs like me
QQplay
Profile Joined February 2009
United States229 Posts
April 15 2009 20:12 GMT
#50
This is awesome, I love BWChart! <3
Thanks JCA for your hard work!
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
April 15 2009 20:35 GMT
#51
please how can i find the winner of one match just with the chart?
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 15 2009 22:14 GMT
#52
The Prodigal son has returned!

Thanks for your hard work
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 16 2009 00:21 GMT
#53
WC3 CHART ggogo
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CompX
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada216 Posts
April 16 2009 00:38 GMT
#54
u guys forgot to thank the poster..
anyways TY!!
man, I am tiny the stone GIANT!! ┌██┘
Star.Dj
Profile Joined August 2007
United States71 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 11:35:03
April 17 2009 11:32 GMT
#55
On April 16 2009 05:35 No_eL wrote:
please how can i find the winner of one match just with the chart?


I think the only way is to open up the replay with bwchart and then select the "resources" chart. On the far right of the chart you can see which player left first (it's marked by the word "Leave"). If the loser of the game saved the replay it won't say "Leave" so there's no way to tell there.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
April 17 2009 11:41 GMT
#56
It's up at bwchart.teamliquid.net
DIP_
Profile Joined April 2009
2 Posts
April 28 2009 23:57 GMT
#57
I have a problem with this new version of bwchart.. when i try to delete replay i see this error message:

Un argument non valide a ete detecte

and I cant close it.. it appears over and over.. only can close bwchart using task manager... bwchart v 1.04A.. os: WinXP SP3 Pro... any ideas...??

p.s. sorry for my bad english.. ;-)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 29 2009 00:22 GMT
#58
On April 29 2009 08:57 DIP_ wrote:
I have a problem with this new version of bwchart.. when i try to delete replay i see this error message:

Un argument non valide a ete detecte

and I cant close it.. it appears over and over.. only can close bwchart using task manager... bwchart v 1.04A.. os: WinXP SP3 Pro... any ideas...??

p.s. sorry for my bad english.. ;-)



"bw chart has encountered a non valid argument"?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 27 2009 19:31 GMT
#59
thanks for this awesome awesome code.
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