• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:59
CET 00:59
KST 08:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10822 users

[Fantasy] PL R4 Daily Blog - Page 28

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 40 Next All
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
April 28 2009 11:55 GMT
#541
On April 28 2009 20:50 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2009 20:38 Samurai- wrote:
-4 for leta's forfeit?

Kespa costed leta's owners 8 points if he played and won against kal and ace, but instead we ll get punished because his monitor didnt work and couldnt write properly?

If he won, if he played ace, if he won ace...
That is assuming a lot. yes I know Leta plays most aces for Sparkyz, but still.

The Fantasy scoring rules clearly state the -4 for DQ, arbitrarily deciding not to go through with this would be at least as stupid as what KeSPA did.

Yes, it's tough luck for Leta owners, but it's the proper course of action. KeSPA determines the official result of a game, that's just how it is.


You could make a poll of this decision.

Even if a decision taken between the mods of FPL is probably a better option ^^
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 28 2009 11:59 GMT
#542
#11 sweet

or #5 or something in case Leta gets -4
Administrator
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
April 28 2009 12:03 GMT
#543
Dq... way to ruin fantasy for some people
One ring, to rule them all!
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 12:41:07
April 28 2009 12:38 GMT
#544
I'm kind of curious, why is Kal's trade value (and my other players value) gradually going down despite them winning?

Actually all of my players values for the most part were way above 30.0 and a few were above 40.0 and as soon as I traded Zero for effort they all dropped down massively.
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 28 2009 12:51 GMT
#545
On April 28 2009 21:38 Pioneer wrote:
I'm kind of curious, why is Kal's trade value (and my other players value) gradually going down despite them winning?

Actually all of my players values for the most part were way above 30.0 and a few were above 40.0 and as soon as I traded Zero for effort they all dropped down massively.


You're looking at their adjusted trade value which is trade value * games left; this is to account for differences in schedule. If you look at the stats page Kal's trade value is 5.77 compared to his original cost of 5 so it has gone up.
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
April 28 2009 12:59 GMT
#546
Oh, so when I'm able to trade again it will show their actual trade value?
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 28 2009 13:19 GMT
#547
On April 28 2009 21:59 Pioneer wrote:
Oh, so when I'm able to trade again it will show their actual trade value?


The trade page displays adusted trade value, the stats page shows trade value.
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
MacWorld
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden227 Posts
April 28 2009 14:09 GMT
#548
A bit lol that three teams with half the cost are owning the top 5 players.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 28 2009 15:54 GMT
#549
is there a use to 'trade value' then if adjusted trade value is used for trading? it's a pretty hardcore stat might only be confusing to keep it there
Administrator
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 21:46:39
April 28 2009 21:45 GMT
#550
I don't think that the "points gained from trades" is calculated corectly. My team for example.

I started with HoOny on my team. After week one I traded him for Modesty. From that trade I gained 1 point. Next week I traded Modesty for by.hero. Now Modesty won and gained 4 points.
In my "Trades Made" section It says HoOny -> Modesty + 4. But like I sad, I'm + 1 from that trade, cause I traded him away. So I should be +6, not +9.

If I'm not missing something.
leetchaos
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 22:29:19
April 28 2009 22:25 GMT
#551
Im a fucking idiot and put ZerO on my anti-team... I can trade him for Bisu or Leta, so yeah, fuck me season 4, no point in even trying now.... T_T

Edit: I also noticed that I have -9 for shine[kal], but other people who have him have -0, is this because they traded him in after he won several games?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 22:42:49
April 28 2009 22:33 GMT
#552
Can someone verify Letas points?

editing as I count them

Leta HIT
total points 21
Lineup points 7
wins 5
losses 2
Ace wins 2
Ace appearences 2
ace losses 0
Streak 1
Break 0
Team win 3

7 + 10 - 2 + 4 + 4 + 1 + 3 = 27

DQ -4

is this counted hidden and added to losses?

1 point off from lineup appearance
1 point losing game
4 points DQ

21 points

I don't know am I right ?
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 28 2009 22:36 GMT
#553
On April 29 2009 06:45 sashkata wrote:
I don't think that the "points gained from trades" is calculated corectly. My team for example.

I started with HoOny on my team. After week one I traded him for Modesty. From that trade I gained 1 point. Next week I traded Modesty for by.hero. Now Modesty won and gained 4 points.
In my "Trades Made" section It says HoOny -> Modesty + 4. But like I sad, I'm + 1 from that trade, cause I traded him away. So I should be +6, not +9.

If I'm not missing something.


See the previous discussion:

On April 26 2009 03:16 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2009 02:39 Abydos1 wrote:
On April 25 2009 16:32 ShadowDrgn wrote:
It appears that the trade gain section doesn't handle the situation where you trade for a player and then trade him away.

Wk ▼Traded Acquired Pt ±
1 (P)SangHo (T)PianO -3
2 (T)PianO (T)Canata +3
Sub-Total: 0

SangHo for Piano was a positive trade last week but is now showing up as negative because Piano won, even though he's no longer on my anti-team.


Just add them together, the SangHo >>> PianO >>> Canata trade is a 0 point gain.


But it's not a 0 point gain.

SangHo >>> PianO was a 1 point net gain because SangHo scored 3 in week 2 and PianO scored 1.
PianO >>> Canata is so far a 3 point net gain because PianO got 4 and Canata still has 0.

These should total to a 4 point gain, not 0.


"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 28 2009 22:45 GMT
#554
UPDATE: After discussing the issue we are not going to penalize (T)Leta owners for the inadvertent forfeit. No one really expected the DQ/forfeit to ever come up and it was more a joke in that regard. DQ/forfeits are such a random occurance that there's no way anyone could predict if/when they would occur (its akin to giving +4 points to anyone that wears a hat); as such we're removing the -4 points from the scoring.
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 23:04:49
April 28 2009 22:51 GMT
#555
Btw what is your source to get information who is on A team or B team? Scforall?

Another question about trade values. Will those trade values be 5th seasons new value (rounded up or down)?
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 28 2009 22:53 GMT
#556
On April 29 2009 07:51 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Btw what is your source to get information who is on A team or B team? Scforall?


http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=890
which is a translation from fomos.
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 28 2009 22:56 GMT
#557
On April 29 2009 07:53 Abydos1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2009 07:51 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Btw what is your source to get information who is on A team or B team? Scforall?


http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=890
which is a translation from fomos.


So what would happen if from my team 3 players would move to B team? I could trade for free to get replacements? What if my captain is dropped to B team?
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 28 2009 23:20 GMT
#558
Leta:

5 LA: 5
5 Wins: 10
2 Losses: -2
2 Ace Appearances: 4
1 Streak point: 1
3 Team Wins: 3
---------------
Total: 21

Note that the 7 lineups displayed on the stats include the two ace matches (5 LA, 2 ace)
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
April 28 2009 23:23 GMT
#559
On April 29 2009 07:56 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
So what would happen if from my team 3 players would move to B team? I could trade for free to get replacements? What if my captain is dropped to B team?

You don't get free trades, try to pick players that aren't in danger of going to B team this round. Conversely, try to pick anti-team players that might go to B team. If your captain drops to B team, sucks for you.

On April 29 2009 07:51 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Another question about trade values. Will those trade values be 5th seasons new value (rounded up or down)?

Yes, the prices for next round will probably be very close to what the final trade values (not adjusted) are for each player.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 29 2009 00:13 GMT
#560
On April 29 2009 00:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
is there a use to 'trade value' then if adjusted trade value is used for trading? it's a pretty hardcore stat might only be confusing to keep it there


Trade value is useful for comparing players and for direct comparison with their original cost.
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 40 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft260
Nina 141
ViBE107
Nathanias 104
CosmosSc2 26
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1028
Artosis 462
ProTech119
White-Ra 119
ggaemo 45
Shinee 42
Aegong 39
League of Legends
Doublelift5307
JimRising 667
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1540
allub255
Super Smash Bros
PPMD45
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr64
Other Games
summit1g12458
FrodaN1207
zeus330
shahzam325
C9.Mang0254
ToD193
syndereN132
Maynarde89
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL181
Other Games
gamesdonequick133
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2745
• Jankos2611
Other Games
• imaqtpie454
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 1m
Kung Fu Cup
11h 1m
Replay Cast
23h 1m
The PondCast
1d 10h
KCM Race Survival
1d 10h
OSC
1d 14h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
3 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.