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On April 28 2009 20:50 Carnac wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2009 20:38 Samurai- wrote:
-4 for leta's forfeit?
Kespa costed leta's owners 8 points if he played and won against kal and ace, but instead we ll get punished because his monitor didnt work and couldnt write properly? If he won, if he played ace, if he won ace... That is assuming a lot. yes I know Leta plays most aces for Sparkyz, but still. The Fantasy scoring rules clearly state the -4 for DQ, arbitrarily deciding not to go through with this would be at least as stupid as what KeSPA did. Yes, it's tough luck for Leta owners, but it's the proper course of action. KeSPA determines the official result of a game, that's just how it is.
You could make a poll of this decision. 
Even if a decision taken between the mods of FPL is probably a better option ^^
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#11 sweet
or #5 or something in case Leta gets -4
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Dq... way to ruin fantasy for some people 
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I'm kind of curious, why is Kal's trade value (and my other players value) gradually going down despite them winning?
Actually all of my players values for the most part were way above 30.0 and a few were above 40.0 and as soon as I traded Zero for effort they all dropped down massively.
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On April 28 2009 21:38 Pioneer wrote:
I'm kind of curious, why is Kal's trade value (and my other players value) gradually going down despite them winning?
Actually all of my players values for the most part were way above 30.0 and a few were above 40.0 and as soon as I traded Zero for effort they all dropped down massively.
You're looking at their adjusted trade value which is trade value * games left; this is to account for differences in schedule. If you look at the stats page Kal's trade value is 5.77 compared to his original cost of 5 so it has gone up.
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Oh, so when I'm able to trade again it will show their actual trade value?
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On April 28 2009 21:59 Pioneer wrote:
Oh, so when I'm able to trade again it will show their actual trade value?
The trade page displays adusted trade value, the stats page shows trade value.
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A bit lol that three teams with half the cost are owning the top 5 players.
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is there a use to 'trade value' then if adjusted trade value is used for trading? it's a pretty hardcore stat might only be confusing to keep it there
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I don't think that the "points gained from trades" is calculated corectly. My team for example.
I started with HoOny on my team. After week one I traded him for Modesty. From that trade I gained 1 point. Next week I traded Modesty for by.hero. Now Modesty won and gained 4 points.
In my "Trades Made" section It says HoOny -> Modesty + 4. But like I sad, I'm + 1 from that trade, cause I traded him away. So I should be +6, not +9.
If I'm not missing something.
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Im a fucking idiot and put ZerO on my anti-team... I can trade him for Bisu or Leta, so yeah, fuck me season 4, no point in even trying now.... T_T
Edit: I also noticed that I have -9 for shine[kal], but other people who have him have -0, is this because they traded him in after he won several games?
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Can someone verify Letas points?
editing as I count them
Leta HIT
total points 21
Lineup points 7
wins 5
losses 2
Ace wins 2
Ace appearences 2
ace losses 0
Streak 1
Break 0
Team win 3
7 + 10 - 2 + 4 + 4 + 1 + 3 = 27
DQ -4
is this counted hidden and added to losses?
1 point off from lineup appearance
1 point losing game
4 points DQ
21 points
I don't know am I right ?
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On April 29 2009 06:45 sashkata wrote:
I don't think that the "points gained from trades" is calculated corectly. My team for example.
I started with HoOny on my team. After week one I traded him for Modesty. From that trade I gained 1 point. Next week I traded Modesty for by.hero. Now Modesty won and gained 4 points.
In my "Trades Made" section It says HoOny -> Modesty + 4. But like I sad, I'm + 1 from that trade, cause I traded him away. So I should be +6, not +9.
If I'm not missing something.
See the previous discussion:
On April 26 2009 03:16 ShadowDrgn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2009 02:39 Abydos1 wrote:On April 25 2009 16:32 ShadowDrgn wrote:It appears that the trade gain section doesn't handle the situation where you trade for a player and then trade him away. Wk ▼Traded Acquired Pt ± 1  SangHo  PianO -3 2 PianO Canata +3 Sub-Total: 0 SangHo for Piano was a positive trade last week but is now showing up as negative because Piano won, even though he's no longer on my anti-team. Just add them together, the SangHo >>> PianO >>> Canata trade is a 0 point gain. But it's not a 0 point gain. SangHo >>> PianO was a 1 point net gain because SangHo scored 3 in week 2 and PianO scored 1. PianO >>> Canata is so far a 3 point net gain because PianO got 4 and Canata still has 0. These should total to a 4 point gain, not 0.
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UPDATE: After discussing the issue we are not going to penalize Leta owners for the inadvertent forfeit. No one really expected the DQ/forfeit to ever come up and it was more a joke in that regard. DQ/forfeits are such a random occurance that there's no way anyone could predict if/when they would occur (its akin to giving +4 points to anyone that wears a hat); as such we're removing the -4 points from the scoring.
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Btw what is your source to get information who is on A team or B team? Scforall?
Another question about trade values. Will those trade values be 5th seasons new value (rounded up or down)?
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So what would happen if from my team 3 players would move to B team? I could trade for free to get replacements? What if my captain is dropped to B team?
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Leta:
5 LA: 5
5 Wins: 10
2 Losses: -2
2 Ace Appearances: 4
1 Streak point: 1
3 Team Wins: 3
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Total: 21
Note that the 7 lineups displayed on the stats include the two ace matches (5 LA, 2 ace)
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On April 29 2009 07:56 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
So what would happen if from my team 3 players would move to B team? I could trade for free to get replacements? What if my captain is dropped to B team?
You don't get free trades, try to pick players that aren't in danger of going to B team this round. Conversely, try to pick anti-team players that might go to B team. If your captain drops to B team, sucks for you.
On April 29 2009 07:51 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Another question about trade values. Will those trade values be 5th seasons new value (rounded up or down)?
Yes, the prices for next round will probably be very close to what the final trade values (not adjusted) are for each player.
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On April 29 2009 00:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
is there a use to 'trade value' then if adjusted trade value is used for trading? it's a pretty hardcore stat might only be confusing to keep it there
Trade value is useful for comparing players and for direct comparison with their original cost.
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