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PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
February 13 2009 08:56 GMT
#1
Has anyone noticed increased players on bnet lately?
In my experience i would say BW numbers are 10,000-20,000 higher than they were this time last year.I assume this is mostly old players returning , with a few newer players discovering the game ; the increased activity due to imminent beta of SC2.

This is Brood Wars renaissance.I'll be playing more than usual myself due to the slump in brood war gaming that will sadly come with the release of SC2.
Once again back is the incredible!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
February 13 2009 09:04 GMT
#2
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything
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extracheez
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia151 Posts
February 13 2009 09:08 GMT
#3
I know I started playing again because of starcraft 2. In fact I'm quite annoyed that starcraft 2 will come out because I would like more time to play starcraft.
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
February 13 2009 09:09 GMT
#4
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Yes, because the rise in cost of goods and services cause people to play Starcraft.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
February 13 2009 09:13 GMT
#5
On February 13 2009 18:09 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything

Yes, because the rise in cost of goods and services cause people to play Starcraft.

no, it causes a rise in player numbers of people who play starcraft just like real inflation

other than that your statement is true
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-13 09:16:11
February 13 2009 09:15 GMT
#6
On February 13 2009 18:13 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:09 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything

Yes, because the rise in cost of goods and services cause people to play Starcraft.

no, it causes a rise in player numbers of people who play starcraft just like real inflation

other than that your statement is true


You lost me at "real inflation" oxymoron?
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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
February 13 2009 09:18 GMT
#7
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Is this guy serious?
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 13 2009 09:20 GMT
#8
On February 13 2009 18:18 inReacH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Is this guy serious?


Absolutely - don't you know the difference between real and nominal player numbers?
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
February 13 2009 09:20 GMT
#9
On February 13 2009 18:18 inReacH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Is this guy serious?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

educate yourself, knowledge is with inReacH
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 13 2009 09:22 GMT
#10
On February 13 2009 18:20 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:18 inReacH wrote:
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Is this guy serious?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

educate yourself, knowledge is with inReacH


Ok that took a certain amount of talent to pull off properly. I have to clap to this one.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
February 13 2009 09:25 GMT
#11
if you want "more time to play bw" you will have plenty of it.
Since the bw leagues won't go away in korea for some time i quess.
And there are a lot of people who have said similar things, that they really wanted to play bw instead of sc2.

Of course when sc2 gets released, there will be a significant drop in bw players activity but i quess many players will come back to bw after some time
Unless of course starcraft2 is somehow a lot better than bw.

and i don't understand that inflation thingy...
More players are more players... I don't know how you can say that it is the "same" if there are more players :o

I think he is joking.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
February 13 2009 09:44 GMT
#12
Maybe it's because of SC2, there's a lot of new players in our country that played sc again because of sc2
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Underwhelmed
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States207 Posts
February 13 2009 09:52 GMT
#13
It's not just bnet, I swear a lot more people are migrating to ICCUP. I've noticed a distinct increase in the amount of money map players and people who seem to be new to low-money maps.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
February 13 2009 09:54 GMT
#14
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Best post in a long time!
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
liosama
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Australia843 Posts
February 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#15
On February 13 2009 18:22 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:20 Hot_Bid wrote:
On February 13 2009 18:18 inReacH wrote:
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Is this guy serious?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

educate yourself, knowledge is with inReacH


Ok that took a certain amount of talent to pull off properly. I have to clap to this one.


More like luck, as his alias happens to be inReach.....
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
February 13 2009 10:14 GMT
#16
Its actually because there are no new strategy games that can beat how great starcraft is so they keep playing starcraft or get back at it.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
February 13 2009 10:19 GMT
#17
On February 13 2009 18:25 MuR)Ernu wrote:
...
and i don't understand that inflation thingy...
More players are more players... I don't know how you can say that it is the "same" if there are more players :o

the concept is quite simple, players nowadays are not worth as much as players several years ago. there are more people on the earth so more computer gamers and thus more people playing starcraft and before there were less, that's how inflation works.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 13 2009 10:28 GMT
#18
SC2 coming out will definitely have an effect on bringing people back and pulling new ppl in, I think.

On February 13 2009 18:20 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:18 inReacH wrote:
On February 13 2009 18:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think this phenomenon is easily explained by the concept of player inflation, the number of players naturally inflates over time, if you look at the inflation-adjusted numbers its pretty much the same as last year, so its not really signifying anything


Is this guy serious?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

educate yourself, knowledge is with inReacH

lol...very, very, very nice. I salute you, Hot_Bid.

ahahaa.
Hello
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-13 10:54:53
February 13 2009 10:50 GMT
#19
On February 13 2009 19:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 18:25 MuR)Ernu wrote:
...
and i don't understand that inflation thingy...
More players are more players... I don't know how you can say that it is the "same" if there are more players :o

the concept is quite simple, players nowadays are not worth as much as players several years ago. there are more people on the earth so more computer gamers and thus more people playing starcraft and before there were less, that's how inflation works.


Holy fuck this is like a new level of dumb, how has noone called you out on this yet.

So according to your logic, more people on earth = more people doing any given thing?

Do you actually think this subject is so cut and dry?

So why aren't there more people playing ps1 games than there were when ps1 was the current generation console?

Could it possibly be because as games age, people look for newer sources of entertainment and move on from games that are say.. 10 years old?

Inflation, that's your answer. I literally am right now discovering that I don't want to click post until I have fully expressed my awe that someone could be so absurd. But also I am discovering that I can't, with all the words in the dictionary(inflation being one of them), there isn't one for the way I feel about your posts.

And the condescending way you linked me to that wikepedia page that is about economic inflation as confident as could be...

Let's just look at this quote by itself for a moment:
"there are more people on the earth so more computer gamers and thus more people playing starcraft"

Wow.

So to break it down, more people = more people playing starcraft

And this can be explained by 'inflation', which is a generic term that I'm gathering you think means, as the worlds population grows, everything grows.

Not only is this not what inflation means, it's not even true.

There are more people on battle.net for a ton of reasons, most prominent of course is starcraft2's imminent release.

If blizzard had announced they were never making a sequel every year would be a record low SCbnet users.

EDIT:
This is at the top of the article you linked me:
"This article is about a general rise in the level of prices."

Yeah that has a lot to do with the number of people playing on battle.net I'm sure.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-13 11:19:45
February 13 2009 11:08 GMT
#20
On February 13 2009 19:50 inReacH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2009 19:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
On February 13 2009 18:25 MuR)Ernu wrote:
...
and i don't understand that inflation thingy...
More players are more players... I don't know how you can say that it is the "same" if there are more players :o

the concept is quite simple, players nowadays are not worth as much as players several years ago. there are more people on the earth so more computer gamers and thus more people playing starcraft and before there were less, that's how inflation works.

Holy fuck this is like a new level of dumb, how has noone called you out on this yet.

probably because they realize i am truly relying on lowly legal inferences, now go into dictionary, it oughtta teachya

So according to your logic, more people on earth = more people doing any given thing?

obviously more people on earth = more people doing any given thing. let me give you an example, if there are 10 people on earth breathing, and instead there are 15 people, that's 5 more people breathing. another example would be if there are 15 people, and then there are 20 people, that's another 5 more people breathing, or 10 more than 10 people breathing.

Do you actually think this subject is so cut and dry?

So why aren't there more people playing ps1 games than there were when ps1 was the current generation console?

because there's a PS2 and PS3?

Could it possibly be because as games age, people look for newer sources of entertainment and move on from games that are say.. 10 years old?

I can think of a few examples, there are more people playing Chess now than the 1800s. And there are more people in the 1800s playing chess than in the 400s. And more people playing in the 400s than in 65million BC, because there were no people back then, only dinosaurs.

Inflation, that's your answer. I literally am right now discovering that I don't want to click post until I have fully expressed my awe that someone could be so absurd. But also I am discovering that I can't, with all the words in the dictionary(inflation being one of them), there isn't one for the way I feel about your posts.

Your posts seem to have inflation too, every one of them is worth less as you continue on this site.

And the condescending way you linked me to that wikepedia page that is about economic inflation as confident as could be...

Let's just look at this quote by itself for a moment:
"there are more people on the earth so more computer gamers and thus more people playing starcraft"

Wow.

So to break it down, more people = more people playing starcraft

And this can be explained by 'inflation', which is a generic term that I'm gathering you think means, as the worlds population grows, everything grows.

I think you need to re-read the wikipedia definition of inflation.

Not only is this not what inflation means, it's not even true.

There are more people on battle.net for a ton of reasons, most prominent of course is starcraft2's imminent release.

If blizzard had announced they were never making a sequel every year would be a record low SCbnet users.

EDIT:
This is at the top of the article you linked me:
"This article is about a general rise in the level of prices."

Yeah that has a lot to do with the number of people playing on battle.net I'm sure.

Let me spell it out for you. If you replace "prices" with "people playing on bnet" then what does it read? "This article is about a general rise in the people playing on bnet." Case closed.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
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