EPTWHITE-RA=(>)NBS in PvP
Dissy = most of korean B teamers thats what I said.
DISSY > Idra
Idra: Idra > Dissy + you suck
other candian, us and german guys: calm down Idra,
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
WHITE-RA=(>)NBS in PvP Dissy = most of korean B teamers thats what I said. DISSY > Idra Idra: Idra > Dissy + you suck other candian, us and german guys: calm down Idra, | ||
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JudgeMathis
Cuba1286 Posts
On February 04 2009 20:31 GTR-2-Go wrote: anyone want to take bets this will turn into another idra vs europe thread. According to Han00b, it's idra vs the world. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10854 Posts
Btw: I'm sure there is enough time to play tons of Starcraft even if you make 100 Posts a day  . | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On February 04 2009 23:27 littlechava wrote: this is like the ultimate troll thread so far hannoob: MONDRAGON > ALL B TEAM KOREANS, WHITE-RA > NBS idra: thats not true hannoob/german flunkies: LOL CALM DOWN NERD I think you missed something in between. | ||
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stack
Canada348 Posts
On February 04 2009 22:49 EsX_Raptor wrote: It's true I won't, why? Because I'm actually working harder than him on getting my PhD than he is on being someone, rofl jealous of what? There's nothing there to be jealous of. reason most people go for diplomas: to say something as stupid and petty as this. so ugly and pathetic. | ||
zatic
Zurich15362 Posts
Idra cRaZypYRo stack Look people stop turning this into a flame thread. We really have enough of those on a recurring basis in the blogs, take it there. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
Its just that ra's pvz is like a whole 2 levels under his pvt and a whole 3 levels under his pvp. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
I can understand Idra being a bit pissed when someone states it as if it was a fact, when it simply is not the case ? _? In my opinion: Mondis ZvP is amazing and if he is in shape and additionally has a good day he can beat any foreign Toss and many korean Tosses, too except the really TOP CLASS pro gamers. His ZvZ is amazing, too but I wont lose many words. Now about his ZvT: It just is not that strong in my opinion. And I disagree with a statement like Mondi > Idra, because it's rather stupid. 1) Idra's play and activity, dedication and everything changed 2) Idra's known for his good TvZ which got even better 3) I remember Mondi did not do extraordinary well vs Terrans in tourneys and also not vs Idra Thus I'd say Idra and Mondi are both amazing players. I think Mondi is no favourite vs Idra, but as a whole gamer he has achieved much more than Idra ( No I dont think going to korea is a bigger achievement than getting good places at wcg's and other big events , want to take nothing away from idra or nony, though ). So I think it would make up for great games with a slight edge for Idra. But not sure tbh. But posting Idra > Mondi or vice veras is stupid.. | ||
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
On February 05 2009 00:14 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Maybe it would help if instead of writing '' Mondi > Idra '' one could as well write '' In my opinion'' or '' i think that.. '' I can understand Idra being a bit pissed when someone states it as if it was a fact, when it simply is not the case ? _? In my opinion: Mondis ZvP is amazing and if he is in shape and additionally has a good day he can beat any foreign Toss and many korean Tosses, too except the really TOP CLASS pro gamers. His ZvZ is amazing, too but I wont lose many words. Now about his ZvT: It just is not that strong in my opinion. And I disagree with a statement like Mondi > Idra, because it's rather stupid. 1) Idra's play and activity, dedication and everything changed 2) Idra's known for his good TvZ which got even better 3) I remember Mondi did not do extraordinary well vs Terrans in tourneys and also not vs Idra Thus I'd say Idra and Mondi are both amazing players. I think Mondi is no favourite vs Idra, but as a whole gamer he has achieved much more than Idra ( No I dont think going to korea is a bigger achievement than getting good places at wcg's and other big events , want to take nothing away from idra or nony, though ). So I think it would make up for great games with a slight edge for Idra. But not sure tbh. But posting Idra > Mondi or vice veras is stupid.. Good words. I agree with you regarding his ZvP and ZvZ. Concerning his ZvT of course its his weakest matchup. I think its the only one in which he could lose to a foreign player even if he is in shape though I still think its not really bad too when he is in shape. I would favor Mondragon slightly if he is in shape cause Idra`s TvZ vs korean gamers got better but vs foreign players it might got slightly worse than before. Anyway get Mondragon to liquibition vs JF and for the following liquibition JF so we can see who will win! | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4516 Posts
It's a not a fair comparison though. One person is in a proteam practising all day and the other person is studying and playing a few hours of bw a day in their free time. Some days not playing at all. Mondragon is definately a very smart and talented player to keep up with skill as well as he does, with relativaly little playing time. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
tvp i could understand the logic but tvz? | ||
LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
 P.S. Why does anyone try to get into flame war with Idra? The kid is an attention seeker, and I can't see how his pretended cockiness can provoke anyone after such a long time. And the who is better than who is just childish, unless both players are repetively competing in the same competition. | ||
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SlickR12345
Macedonia408 Posts
Pretty good interview i guess, if i was interested in those Q&A. | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
On February 05 2009 00:24 HanN00b wrote: Good words. I agree with you regarding his ZvP and ZvZ. Concerning his ZvT of course its his weakest matchup. I think its the only one in which he could lose to a foreign player even if he is in shape though I still think its not really bad too when he is in shape. I would favor Mondragon slightly if he is in shape cause Idra`s TvZ vs korean gamers got better but vs foreign players it might got slightly worse than before. Anyway get Mondragon to liquibition vs JF and for the following liquibition JF so we can see who will win! what | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
theres not many options with zerg, foreigners play the same thing just without muta micro and without the multitasking for proper hive tech. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10854 Posts
On February 05 2009 00:46 SlickR12345 wrote: man only 450 euros? Not bad as a boost to your pocket, but heck even here in my country its only a month payment, considering there aren't many starcraft tournaments around, well foreign tournaments anyways! Pretty good interview i guess, if i was interested in those Q&A. In germany it's ~1/4 - ~1/5 of an *ok* loan (not a good one!)... | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
I mean it's basicaly a fact that Mondi has achieved much more than Idra. On the other hand who out of korea except Grrrr and Elky ( looong loong time ago .. ) has achieved more than Mondi has ? Only a few come close ( Fisheye, Draco, Chinese players ect.. ) Its a fact that Mondis ZvP is very good and that he is never a underdog vs a foreigner Protoss.. BUT it's also a fact that mondis ZvT is by far not that good and he's not that confident in it Add this with the fact, that Idra's TvZ is quite good for foreign standards, that he keeps on playing very very much with very very good opponents and anything like Mondi > Idra or Mondi would win a bo5 anytime vs IDra is utter nonsense.. As a GAMER in all match ups and if u look at their success and so on.. Mondi > Idra is justified but that wasnt what we were talking about, was it ? | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
i know your rebuttal is going to be "but mondragon didn't want to be a progamer!", that doesn't change a thing. | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On February 05 2009 01:46 Tropics wrote: you're right magic phil, idra has accomplished nowhere near as much, you know, considering he is a progamer on CJ entus and that mondragon is playing out of his house. i know your rebuttal is going to be "but mondragon didn't want to be a progamer!", that doesn't change a thing. I think we should wait another 10 years to answer that question. Then ask ppl about the greatest foreigner SC players of all time and you will see the results... I wouldnt bet my money on Idra being mentioned only half as much as dissy... | ||
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