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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 20:49:27
December 06 2010 20:48 GMT
#981
Fantasy is 10-0 in his last 10 sitting @ 2299 ELO.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/6_Fantasy/games

I definitely would not consider him "as beatable anyone who isn't JD/Flash" by any stretch of the imagination. =p

Last week he stomped Baby twice in the same day who is @ 2150 following those losses..
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
dras
Profile Joined August 2010
Kazakhstan376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 20:49:43
December 06 2010 20:49 GMT
#982
could someone possibly update the OP?
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
December 06 2010 22:19 GMT
#983
On December 07 2010 05:32 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:33 Ideas wrote:
On December 01 2010 16:15 jalstar wrote:
Not a peak, but Fantasy rejoins the 2300 club today. When was the last time we had 3 2300+ players at the same time? Was it Jaedong/Bisu/Flash in 2009?


it's not the same when the #1 is still over 100 points above #3 lol

2300 used to be REALLY impressive, but now fantasy still seems as beatable as anyone else that isnt JD/flash. I guess his results say otherwise but he just doesnt have near the aura as 2300 pointers used to have.

If it weren't for fantasy's undefeated November, and current ten game winning streak, I'd agree with you. But the fact of the matter is, nobody is beating him either.

but that's cause he's playing NOBODY 10 times (well... 7-8 out of those 10)

baby is good.. and i hear that was pretty impressive (didn't watch myself, just re-spouting what the fourms claim...) pure isn't bad.
But the rest? Hyun? Hiya? Jangbi? if you have a group of 7 players where those are the best you aren't doing well.

it's impressive, but nothing to shout "UNBEATABLE" about.
where are the PR players in that? two of last months CBNCs doesn't get me excited by his domination.
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 23:17:52
December 06 2010 23:16 GMT
#984
This is so wrong... I love it!

FlaSh is....

1-3 wins from Peak ELO overall (breaking his own)
0 wins away from Peak XvT
1 win away from Peak XvZ
3-6 wins away from Peak XvP
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
December 06 2010 23:20 GMT
#985
i agree with kerpal
since we're not talking about the best players but on the so called relative improvement
i find fantasy's acheivement well matched to his place
as the 3rd/4th best player on the scene right now
and if we are talking on relative progress shine is even more surprising with 10 win streak of his own
with 2 wins over bisu
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
December 07 2010 02:29 GMT
#986
I would just like to direct everyone's attention to (T)Flash's ELO page. Go check it out. You will regret it if you don't.

Spoiler for those too lazy...
+ Show Spoiler +

HOLY OMFG F*(&#( WHAT THE I DONT EVEN GARH FLASH U LITTLE


ELO: 2433
Peak: 2443

vT ELO: 2328 (All-time record)
vT Peak: 2328 ( = current)

vZ ELO: 2340 (1 ELO point - LOL - off of the record, JvZ, 2341)
vZ Peak: 2340 ( = current)

vP ELO: 2300
vP Peak: 2318 (4 ELO points off of the record, JvP, 2322)

Other than feeling awed, I really am starting to realize how unbelievably dominant Jaedong was... and though I was one of those naysayers to JD Bonjwa status, I seriously think he deserves it. No one, not even Flash, had dominated (ELO-wise) in vZ and vP as much as JD... and his vT was no joke either.

Anyway, my god, head explosion. If Flash beats the next Zerg, FvZ ELO > JvZ ELO. Amazing.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
December 07 2010 02:40 GMT
#987
On December 07 2010 11:29 Wings wrote:
I would just like to direct everyone's attention to (T)Flash's ELO page. Go check it out. You will regret it if you don't.

Spoiler for those too lazy...
+ Show Spoiler +

HOLY OMFG F*(&#( WHAT THE I DONT EVEN GARH FLASH U LITTLE


ELO: 2433
Peak: 2443

vT ELO: 2328 (All-time record)
vT Peak: 2328 ( = current)

vZ ELO: 2340 (1 ELO point - LOL - off of the record, JvZ, 2341)
vZ Peak: 2340 ( = current)

vP ELO: 2300
vP Peak: 2318 (4 ELO points off of the record, JvP, 2322)

Other than feeling awed, I really am starting to realize how unbelievably dominant Jaedong was... and though I was one of those naysayers to JD Bonjwa status, I seriously think he deserves it. No one, not even Flash, had dominated (ELO-wise) in vZ and vP as much as JD... and his vT was no joke either.

Anyway, my god, head explosion. If Flash beats the next Zerg, FvZ ELO > JvZ ELO. Amazing.


Lmao that is quite crazy. Looking at the calendar, KT is up against MBC, then Stars. Shame, wouldn't it be great to fight for his ELO peak vs none other than Jaedong himself?
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 07 2010 03:41 GMT
#988
On December 07 2010 11:29 Wings wrote:
I would just like to direct everyone's attention to (T)Flash's ELO page. Go check it out. You will regret it if you don't.

Spoiler for those too lazy...
+ Show Spoiler +

HOLY OMFG F*(&#( WHAT THE I DONT EVEN GARH FLASH U LITTLE


ELO: 2433
Peak: 2443

vT ELO: 2328 (All-time record)
vT Peak: 2328 ( = current)

vZ ELO: 2340 (1 ELO point - LOL - off of the record, JvZ, 2341)
vZ Peak: 2340 ( = current)

vP ELO: 2300
vP Peak: 2318 (4 ELO points off of the record, JvP, 2322)

Other than feeling awed, I really am starting to realize how unbelievably dominant Jaedong was... and though I was one of those naysayers to JD Bonjwa status, I seriously think he deserves it. No one, not even Flash, had dominated (ELO-wise) in vZ and vP as much as JD... and his vT was no joke either.

Anyway, my god, head explosion. If Flash beats the next Zerg, FvZ ELO > JvZ ELO. Amazing.


Jaedong's vZ and vP elo peaks came over a year apart, with lots of faltering in the middle. By the time his ZvP was the best vP ever, his ZvZ had taken a decline to a point where it wasn't as good as Flash's TvZ, etc. Jaedong is absolutely amazing but there is a characteristic difference between why everyone started calling him bonjwa and why they didn't do it with Jaedong.
Remember Violet.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
December 07 2010 05:42 GMT
#989
Yes, in many respects, the most impressive part of Flash's dominance is the fact that is occurring in all three matchups. Jaedong's peaks were achieved when he figured out something about a matchup that no-one else had else, thus had a temporary strategic advantage over everyone.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
December 07 2010 05:47 GMT
#990
you dont see much T1 fans talking to these types of thread .. makes it even more funny :D :D :D
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 11 2010 17:24 GMT
#991
Huh, Shine ELO peaking in everything but vP right now.
Also 6th highest after Flash Jaedong Fantasy Bisu Kal.

Sick.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
December 13 2010 13:36 GMT
#992
And here we go.

+ Show Spoiler +
Flash just obtained a new vZ peak.
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
December 13 2010 13:47 GMT
#993
On December 13 2010 22:36 hns wrote:
And here we go.

+ Show Spoiler +
Flash just obtained a new vZ peak.


the ggaemo game was just... a massacre...
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
December 13 2010 13:53 GMT
#994
On December 13 2010 22:47 gamapg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 22:36 hns wrote:
And here we go.

+ Show Spoiler +
Flash just obtained a new vZ peak.


the ggaemo game was just... a massacre...


Yeah, maybe Flash did the BC triple expand to celebrate his new vZ peak
.
I think esports is pretty nice.
jupidar
Profile Joined December 2010
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 14:03:30
December 13 2010 14:03 GMT
#995
These are (T)Flash's stats from 2009-07-15 - 2010-12-13 in all three match ups (according to TLPD):

vs Terran: 56 wins - 16 losses (77.78%)
vs Zerg: 68 wins - 18 losses (79.07%)
vs Protoss: 39 wins - 12 losses (76.47%)

I don't think anyone will be as close to Flash in terms of dominating all three match ups at the same time.
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
December 13 2010 14:20 GMT
#996
On December 13 2010 23:03 jupidar wrote:
These are (T)Flash's stats from 2009-07-15 - 2010-12-13 in all three match ups (according to TLPD):

vs Terran: 56 wins - 16 losses (77.78%)
vs Zerg: 68 wins - 18 losses (79.07%)
vs Protoss: 39 wins - 12 losses (76.47%)

I don't think anyone will be as close to Flash in terms of dominating all three match ups at the same time.

That should not be possible. SO sick.
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
December 13 2010 14:29 GMT
#997
Aaand it's official! Flash just overtook JD and set a new vZ record.

His TvZ is now the most dominant matchup in BW history (at least ELO wise).

It's kind of sick sorting ELO by performance and looking at the results:
vAll current - Flash
vAll peak - Flash
vT current - Flash
vT peak - Flash
vZ current - Flash
vZ peak - Flash

Only vP has someone else at #1; Jaedong logicaly. And even there Flash is pretty close second. That's just insane.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 13 2010 14:37 GMT
#998
Grats Flash! FvZ is officially greater than JvZ. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
December 13 2010 14:40 GMT
#999
flash is so ridiculously good that such statistics don't surprise me anymore
POGGERS
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 13 2010 14:48 GMT
#1000
This thread is the reason I'll head back to the ol' small vod thread to watch some BWFlash after neglecting it a lot since SC2 became big.
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