On January 07 2009 04:35 Baddieko wrote:
The reason they treat OSL most in Kespa is the competition itself is hard to win and the difficult map pool is used. The preliminary round is much harder than MSL with more quality players. Easy upsets. Not to mention Ro16 at the group stages typically contain top 20 kespa players. Any player who won OSL will be No.1 for a period till next OSL at least.

No... the tournaments are weighted equally, its just that Stork was raping shit up before his OSL win while Bisu came back and raped up the MSL then started dominating.

neotoss

China217 Posts

January 06 2009 20:11 GMT

#63

On January 04 2009 04:34 Hyperionnn wrote:
1 (P)

Stork - Samsung KHAN 2024.3 -
2 (T)

Flash - KTF MagicNs 1907.0 -
3 (P)

Bisu - SK Telecom T1 1750.5 -
4 (P)

BeSt - SK Telecom T1 1721.3 -
5 (Z)

Jaedong - Lecaf Oz 1562.3 -
6 (P)

JangBi - Samsung KHAN 1552.5 -
7 (P)

Kal - STX SouL 1406.3 -
8 (T)

fantasy - SK Telecom T1 1290.8 ▲1
9 (T)

fOrGG - Lecaf Oz 1242.8 ▽1
10 (P)

free - Woongjin Stars 1234.3 -
11 (T)

Mind - WeMade FOX 1194.8 ▲4
12 (T)

firebathero - Samsung KHAN 1173.8 ▲2
13 (Z)

JulyZerg - STX SouL 1141.5 ▽1
14 (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - OnGameNet SPARKYZ 1117.5 ▽1
15 (T)

Leta - OnGameNet SPARKYZ 1094.6 ▲8
16 (Z)

Luxury - KTF MagicNs 1053.0 ▽5
17 (T)

Sea - MBCGame HERO 1000.5 -
18 (P)

Much - CJ Entus 906.0 ▽2
19 (Z)

GGPlay - Woongjin Stars 903.0 ▲2
20 (T)

Hwasin - STX SouL 852.8 -
21 (T)

Light - MBCGame HERO 849.8 ▲1
22 (P)

BackHo - Lecaf Oz 810.8 ▽3
23 (T)

NaDa - WeMade FOX 794.6 ▽5
24 (T)

Iris - CJ Entus 678.8 -
25 (Z)

Calm - STX SouL 668.8 ▲3
26 (T)

Really - eSTRO 664.1 ▲5
27 (Z)

ZerO - Woongjin Stars 652.7 -
28 (T)

Midas - SK Telecom T1 624.8 ▽3
29 (Z)

EffOrt - CJ Entus 594.0 ▲17
30 (P)

Rock - WeMade FOX 570.8 ▽4

Interesting facts:
Top 10 players didn't change from last month, they are really consistent

Top 10 consists of 6 Protoss (All dragons) 3 Terran and 1 Zerg

Savior is out from top 30, he was in top 30 since 2005 August, that means 41 months of streak is ended.

Effort gained 17 rank from last month and bursted into top 30 first time ever.

source: scforall.com

Does anyone knows, how are the KeSPA points calculated ? One example with BISU (he is the hottest player right now. )

2009 January : 1750.5 -
2008 December: 1751.3

According the TLPD Bisu played 8 games in December 2008, apart from one lose to Jaedong, Bisu win other 7, including beating stork once. Nevertheless his KeSPA point dropped a little bit. I just wonder how it works.

GeneralStan

United States4789 Posts

January 06 2009 21:18 GMT

#64

On January 04 2009 16:31 Wala.Revolution wrote:

Show nested quote +

Is bird toss Free?

Ra.Xor.2

United States1784 Posts

January 06 2009 21:25 GMT

#65

On January 07 2009 05:11 neotoss wrote:

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66876 - Kespa rankings calculations

And Effort looks like hte new Jaedong, 17 ranks climbed ^^

edit: HAHAHAHA at the poster above me

EvilTeletubby

Baltimore, USA22259 Posts

January 06 2009 21:46 GMT

#66

On January 04 2009 08:55 Rostam wrote:
NaDa's KeSPA debut was at #14 in the march 2002 rankings. I don't actually care to go through every month between then and now to see if he's in all of them but it seems like a reasonable assumption.

Alright I lied I do care.

A short history of NaDa in KeSPA:

Obtained #1 KeSPA ranking in april 2003 and held it until august 2004 when he was usurped by iloveoov. Dropped to #3 in November when Xellos took over his #2 spot. After that, he went between #3 and #6 until February 2006 when he dropped from #4 in January all the way to #12. After dropping a bit more he wormed his way back into the top 10 at #9 for August 2006 and took over the #1 spot again in December 2006. Savior took him down to #2 in the following month, he stayed strong at #2 until July when that scheming bastard Bisu dropped him to #3. Dropped to #6 in August, dropped out of top 10 again in December 2007. Reobtained #10 ranking in June 2008. This month represents the first time since February 2002 that NaDa has not been in the top 20 of KeSPA.

Conclusion: NaDa will fall out of the KeSPA top 30 by the end of 2009, and then stage an epic comeback in 2010.

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He was 5-6 in proleague overall in December and 2-2 in ace matches, I guess I just don't see how that adds up to gaining 5 ranks. I guess I'm just being overly critical, it is only rank 26 he's at I suppose.

Wow, that's actually pretty fucking incredible. Virtually 7 years straight of being one of the top 20 players in the world? That is pretty insane, and really, really lends credit to the claim of Nada being the best player of all time.

Thanks for taking the time to do that Rostam ^_^

Edit - Wow, I also believe Nada to be the player with the most professional SC games ever played - over 600 games. Most old school greats, like oov, July, Yellow, Boxer, etc., all have in the 300-400 range or so. All the new school greats like Savior, Bisu, Stork, Jaedong, etc. have around 200+. Even Boxer himself is sitting at about 450. Also, Nada's the only player I've come across yet whose list of accomplishments require 2 pages in the TLPD. Sick sick sick.

anch

United States5457 Posts

January 06 2009 21:49 GMT

#67

On January 07 2009 05:11 neotoss wrote:

Does anyone knows, how are the KeSPA points calculated ? One example with BISU (he is the hottest player right now. )

2009 January : 1750.5 -
2008 December: 1751.3

According the TLPD Bisu played 8 games in December 2008, apart from one lose to Jaedong, Bisu win other 7, including beating stork once. Nevertheless his KeSPA point dropped a little bit. I just wonder how it works.

I just read the ranking faq,
its a moving range of previous 3 months throughout 12months.

① Decaying of points through time

The results from the last 3 months are applied 100%, but for every month afterwards, 10% of the points gained "decays"; (so basically a game played 3+ months ago would count for only 90% of the point gained, 4+ months 80% until 12 months afterwards would count 0% into kespa ranking)

that also concludes Savior been sucking the past year.
(blizzcon not included)

if there is a graph of all these history recorded, that pretty much gives us the rapefest and slump level huh?

Guandal

Costa Rica93 Posts

January 18 2009 06:02 GMT

#68

NADA IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!