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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/UploadFiles_9710/200810/20081003232149547.jpg) New rules for proleague: - Ceremonies can NOT be: offensive; related to politics, religion or smt else. -There is 5 periods at this year. KESPA have right to change/add game map after each period, If they see that some map is unbalance or buggy. -If two teams have same score after last period (5th period), both team will choose one player to play a ACE match. -Before the game, KESPA will check carefully every single player's Mouse, Mousepad, Keyboard, even clothes... Source:Cobet@replays.net | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Savior lol'd | ||
GTR
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GTR
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-Before the game, KESPA will check carefully every single player's Mouse, Mousepad, Keyboard, even clothes... rofl this is hardcore | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
yeah, they also uses metal detector... to detect "Hidden radio" | ||
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
Has there been a case of cheating with that kind? | ||
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Mutalisk
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5525 Posts
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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-slo.m1ke-
Slovenia352 Posts
-Before the game, KESPA will check carefully every single player's Mouse, Mousepad, Keyboard, even clothes... for bombs or a hidden probe or what ? edit* jaedong can still dance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :> | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
and how are kespa referees gonna judge whats BM, and what is not? seriously.. I cant wait to read the guidelines for this. "thrusting your crotch towards the audience while shaking your arms up and down is BM" | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa Care to elaborate??? | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa No. If you owned and rented out an apartment, and you said "No dogs allowed", they couldn't bring dogs. Just the same, its Kespa's thing. If they say "No politics etc...", yeah, no politics. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa Indeed, they might as well just give up and cede to North Korea, DAMN REDS! WHY!? On other news: I think FBH will still dance, maybe he has to take the humping out or something? I sure hope he does. | ||
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village_idiot
2436 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:11 emucxg wrote: Ceremonies can NOT be: offensive; related to politics, religion or smt else. Expect to see a lot more Nukes, Queens and Scouts in the future. | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On June 25 2007 10:23 pubbanana wrote: I bet you anything that KeSPA is going to start fining players for doing ceremonies Well, I was close! | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:42 village_idiot wrote: Expect to see a lot more Nukes, Queens and Scouts in the future. 1. 5000 queens 2. spawn broodling on every enemy unit. 3. Broodlings kill base. That would be insane. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25991 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool public vs private thanks | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa True, but there was also that topic about korea banning books. The rules just mean they dont wanna offend anybody political or religious wise it doesnt mean they're less democratic. Also, whats up with the keyboard, mouses, I doubt any of them will switch the lettering so they can build faster. Also, can you still do ceremonies during the game? like much's heart thing, or that one terran guy that builds ccs in their opponents base? | ||
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CyuntiyuL
Canada1740 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Who knows...we'll see. On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa lol...what the FUCK are you talking about?? hahaha. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa What kind of retarded question is that? There are certain acts/events where display of religion, politics and such subjective and personal points of view that could be offensive to anyone are considered impolite and bad mannered. In some of those events, they might even make rules forbidding it. And yes, they happen in democracies. It is not well seen for example in sport events. It's not forbidden, but usually if you do, you end up looking like a douchebag. -Display of fascist symbols and such in football stadiums are supposedly banned(and keyword here is "supposedly"). -Club's owners/presidents are not supposed to talk about politics, thus why lot of people don't like Barcelona's president Laporta, cause he is using the club's image for political means(separatism of Catalonia from Spain, which is kind of a hotspot subject in the country). -In school, starting from k12 to college, teachers and professors are not supposed to talk about politics/religion in propaganda mode, and don't jump on me with the: "then what about politics courses and stuff?", because keyword here is "propaganda". Of course this one is very catchy and usually it is a rule always violated, but I've seen in my own university a very very conservative guy blow the whistle on a sort of liberal teacher who was taking sides talking about political parties. -In most countries, if not all of them, the Military is not allowed to make official political statements(of course they can have their strong opinions about it, but you can't go public talking about what a bunch of fags you think the democrats are and how the Republicans should take over forever while "wearing the uniform"). The violation of this rule, usually ends up in military arrest, with its period depending on the official's rank and the gravity of the statements made. And there are a lot more of other cases, all bound to modern occidental democratic countries. And it doesn't make you doubt about their democratic system. However, I'll say this: politics in Korea are pretty fucked up, filled with bitter vindictive candidates who use the big corporations to get even with the previous president. Oh, and one question, then what about the Samsung ceremony in the PL finals. They one relating to the Dokdo island phrase? They phrase they wrote obviously aimed at the PL title, but it is based on a very strong political thought. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
They're not banning all ceremonies, just offensive types. FBH can still do ceremonies and dance without being offensive. You guys shouldn't be worried. I'm sure he is creative enough to come up with something funny that doesn't offend people. He won't stop, he'll just adapt! Have faith on him! He just need to avoid some point-laugh-pelvic-thrust type of things and he'll be fine :p | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
5 starting probes FTW | ||
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Sprite
United States1015 Posts
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 JoxxOr wrote: Wasn't Korea a democracy? Rules like these makes me questions their goverment and/or Kespa To say or think what you want does not mean DO what you want. | ||
zatic
Zurich15361 Posts
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
Not sure if my English is that good but sure.. Actually it was just my first impressions and a pretty stupid post, I will edit it. I also wanted to say that I only found some elements of the first rule strange, the others (except the check of the clothes  ) is decent and nice changes.After further consideration I can actually agree on that a rule that deals a punishment to anyone who insults a "group" for their race/color/gender or religious believes. But I still think it's sad that a rule like this has to be implemented Why could not people use their common sense instead?About showing political views in ceremonies... i'm confused . I would understand if they wanted to censor it for two major reasons:1. Have a good relationship with the government 2. They are there to play Starcraft, not making political comments. But what I dislike is that they are limiting the individual players power to raise their opinions. Like for etc. if H.O.T. was still playing and he would maybe make a little ceremony after winning a game about SPL taking away 2v2's(which i'm 99% sure that he dislikes). I would accept that and respect his bravery for doing it. I don't think my example made any sense, but I just don't understand what this rule will do. I still think that the Korean culture is so strong that no Korean progamer would even consider making a hostile/political or offensive ceremony. There might be some mocking or funny ceremonies against the other team (like best vs Go.Go), but they are not that serious and its just a joke .The biggest problem with this rule is that it's subjective and not OBJECTIVE. There are no definition of what a offensive or political ceremony is, so that in one eye it might be OK, in another it could be offensive. | ||
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sqwert
United States781 Posts
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
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Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
offensive celebration leads to discussion and lots of hype. you don't need to LIKE the player for doing it. I will usually dislike someone like that but will watch his games just to see hiim lose, making it more interesting for me. | ||
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Pungyeon
Denmark37 Posts
Doooo not Cheet! Ruul Numab Tu! Lemambar to no offensive dance RUUUuAL NUMBA SuREE! Puraise, gureat leader!! (Yeah, I'm a total racist...) | ||
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Folca
2235 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:20 emucxg wrote: yeah, they also uses metal detector... to detect "Hidden radio" Well, maybe because of the victory dance that tons of people were doing... lol | ||
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zOgeL
United States39 Posts
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illeszt
United States350 Posts
On October 04 2008 05:29 zOgeL wrote: Why would they have to check the mouse, keyboard, etc? auto-pilot mice/keyboards | ||
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zOgeL
United States39 Posts
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Pwntrucci[sR]
Canada1519 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25991 Posts
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:20 emucxg wrote: yeah, they also uses metal detector... to detect "Hidden radio" Yeah lol what top plays maphack is a small radio in the side of his sleeve. Lol check the mouse program it to atuo play. About the offensive material what is offensive i guess only fbh with alot of crotch thrusting and partial nudity could be that that's about it They should have just put fbh STFU. Or perhaps they predicted fbh would loose to savior and savior taking out a knife and scalping fbh was too much for the audience. Also scene when does kespa do shit? | ||
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poingy
United States59 Posts
or at least I would've hoped so. *note: I said WHEN savior beats FBH, not IF. it's coming!* | ||
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hugitout
United States379 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On October 04 2008 06:50 hugitout wrote: good rules, i hate ceremonies, they are pros after all its about time they started acting professional ITS AN ENTERTAINMENT business. Professional means jack shit you don't watch tv to see professionals if you wanted that watch the news. You don't watch a sport for professional behavior you watch for good plays and ENTERTAINMENT. | ||
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Darkmole
United States900 Posts
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micronesia
United States24753 Posts
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freshtowers
Albania64 Posts
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
On October 04 2008 06:55 IzzyCraft wrote: ITS AN ENTERTAINMENT business. Professional means jack shit you don't watch tv to see professionals if you wanted that watch the news. You don't watch a sport for professional behavior you watch for good plays and ENTERTAINMENT. So there is no entertainment in Nadal vs Federer for instance? You don't get much more professional and entertaining than that (or money/tv-coverage). | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
At least this only counts for PL. | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On October 04 2008 03:20 il0seonpurpose wrote: Also, can you still do ceremonies during the game? like much's heart thing, or that one terran guy that builds ccs in their opponents base? I was wondering that too. Much's heart - not offensive go.go building CC's in people's bases/Best building nexii in go.go's bases - borderline, a grey area like FBH antics Typing EZ in pylons and sharing vision - I'd consider that offensive So say I was Best and I just beat Flash in the PL and I type EZ in pylons. Do I get fined/punished/whatevered? | ||
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freshtowers
Albania64 Posts
On October 04 2008 03:20 il0seonpurpose wrote: Typing EZ in pylons and sharing vision - I'd consider that offensive Do you also find it offensive when people beat you on iccup and keep making units even though they already won? Just curious | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On October 04 2008 07:26 Purind wrote: Maybe someting was lost in the translation. "Offensive" is broad, and I'm not really sure if FBH antics count. Typing EZ in pylons and sharing vision - I'd consider that offensive So say I was Best and I just beat Flash in the PL and I type EZ in pylons. Do I get fined/punished/whatevered? I believe they'll deduct points from your team's PL score... they did it before, but i cant remember for what offense. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7967 Posts
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TW WiNNinG 54
United States250 Posts
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On October 04 2008 04:38 Hyperionnn wrote: FBH is crying now probably. hell even im crying ceremonies were why i watched fbh games | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On October 04 2008 07:32 freshtowers wrote: Do you also find it offensive when people beat you on iccup and keep making units even though they already won? Just curious When I lose I call them a lucky noob. I have no idea why they call me bm | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7967 Posts
On October 04 2008 09:47 RamenStyle wrote: It would be so pimp if Savior beat FBH and did some real payback regardless the new ruling that him getting punished by KeSPA would make it even more pimp. The problem is that it is extremely unprobable that Savior will not win a game against anybody in the 15 next year. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On October 04 2008 07:32 freshtowers wrote: Do you also find it offensive when people beat you on iccup and keep making units even though they already won? Just curious How is that comparable at all. (this is rhetorical please for the love of god don't reply) hint: Try to find the motives for these 2 completely different scenarios and see how wrong you are. | ||
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moebius_string
United States264 Posts
The checking of equipment rule probably came from the noticeable tendency of players to pause the game when they are caught off guard by an opponent's tactic, and then say they have an equipment problem to give themselves a moment to think things over. Kespa should have some guts and start penalizing players when it looks like an obvious play for time. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On October 04 2008 11:05 moebius_string wrote: The whole Samsung team brought about this knee jerk reaction from Kespa, because of their way over the top displays in the recent Pro League Finals. The ceremonies will of course continue, but Kespa is reminding the teams and players that they don't appreciate some of the antics. The checking of equipment rule probably came from the noticeable tendency of players to pause the game when they are caught off guard by an opponent's tactic, and then say they have an equipment problem to give themselves a moment to think things over. Kespa should have some guts and start penalizing players when it looks like an obvious play for time. Aside from FBH, how is TT flexing his manly body and Stork running around shirtless considered to be over the top? Those are pretty valid non-bm ceremonies imo. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
Glad I hardly ever watch proleague lol. | ||
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moebius_string
United States264 Posts
On October 04 2008 11:23 dinmsab wrote: Aside from FBH, how is TT flexing his manly body and Stork running around shirtless considered to be over the top? Those are pretty valid non-bm ceremonies imo. Everyone's standards are different, but to me the performances taken as a whole in that instant seemed petty, since they rolled an obviously inferior team with back to back displays that lost all semblance of being special. In the end I'm fine with Samsung taking up gymnastics, since it will be one of them that kills all the physical display nonsense when they break something. | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
On October 04 2008 11:36 moebius_string wrote: Everyone's standards are different, but to me the performances taken as a whole in that instant seemed petty. They rolled an obviously inferior team and acted like a bunch of idiots celebrating it like it was some special accomplishment. In the end it's fine with me if Samsung wants to take up gymnastics, since it will be one of them that ends up breaking their neck and killing all the physical display nonsense. Offensive - Something that offends. From a judging, non-emotional standpoint, how is striping and jumping into the water offensive? | ||
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moebius_string
United States264 Posts
On October 04 2008 11:54 RoieTRS wrote: Offensive - Something that offends. From a judging, non-emotional standpoint, how is striping and jumping into the water offensive? Your arguing with yourself at this point so I'll end it here. | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
GG FBH!!!!!!!!!! Don't get me wrong, I loved his ceremonies; just as long as they weren't done to sAviOr. | ||
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fw
Korea (South)1201 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:11 emucxg wrote: New rules for proleague: - Ceremonies can NOT be: offensive; related to politics, religion or smt else. -There is 5 periods at this year. KESPA have right to change/add game map after each period, If they see that some map is unbalance or buggy. -If two teams have same score after last period (5th period), both team will choose one player to play a ACE match. -Before the game, KESPA will check carefully every single player's Mouse, Mousepad, Keyboard, even clothes... Source:Cobet@replays.net a rule changed from the last season. if two teams are tied, the results between those two teams during all five rounds is considered. if 3 or more teams tied, # of penalty recieved are considered first, then if there is still a tie, ace match will be held. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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Whyzguy
Canada263 Posts
OH NOES... Is the TL.net shirt we gave to Sea[Shield] not gonna make an appearence because of this? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14903 Posts
On October 04 2008 14:34 Whyzguy wrote: -Before the game, KESPA will check carefully every single player's Mouse, Mousepad, Keyboard, even clothes... OH NOES... Is the TL.net shirt we gave to Sea[Shield] not gonna make an appearence because of this? i can't imagine them penalizing him for wearing another shirt under shit current uniform how would that be offensive in the least? | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
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WingSandrockX
Korea (North)1164 Posts
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:29 dinmsab wrote: imo, this will effect viewer ratings... people like FBH draw in crowds because of his retarded ceremonies, like it or not, it pretty much helps the industry. and how are kespa referees gonna judge whats BM, and what is not? seriously.. I cant wait to read the guidelines for this. "thrusting your crotch towards the audience while shaking your arms up and down is BM" Yeah right. Starcraft must have been in the Stone Age before firebathero. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
On October 04 2008 02:42 village_idiot wrote: Expect to see a lot more Nukes, Queens and Scouts in the future. And more <3s | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On October 04 2008 14:34 Whyzguy wrote: -Before the game, KESPA will check carefully every single player's Mouse, Mousepad, Keyboard, even clothes... kespa refs are going to have a field day with tossgirl <3 | ||
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InKline
144 Posts
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Atlantian
United States302 Posts
"- Ceremonies can NOT be: offensive; related to politics, religion or smt else" a dagger into the hearts of us FBH fans | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
On October 05 2008 02:21 Atlantian wrote: ugh "- Ceremonies can NOT be: offensive; related to politics, religion or smt else" a dagger into the hearts of us FBH fans a bigger dagger is that FBH sucks ass + Show Spoiler [proleague] + BEST > FBH ACE MATCH KHAN IS 0-1 BECAUSE OF FBH WHERE IS YOUR CEREMONY NOW | ||
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Zerg_Sasuke
176 Posts
- Ceremonies can NOT be: offensive; related to politics, religion or smt else. So one can not express his/her opinion about something ? Democracy bb ? ... | ||
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Zerg_Sasuke
176 Posts
On October 04 2008 17:05 Fen wrote: The reasoning Kespa is doing this is not because they are sick of FBHs antics or anything. All they are doing is putting the rule in there so they have something to refer back to if someone steps over the line. Ceremonies are getting more and more crazy and its only really a matter of time before someone does something wrong. Kespa just has the rule there so if/when this happens, they can point to the rule when enforcing a punishment. Kespa is not anti-ceremonies. How boring. ; o o ; ; o o ; ; o o ; ; o Yeah actually 1 person does some serious ceremonies and it is FBH. I rly dislike any unnecesary fucking rules. It doesnt rly hurt anyone and theres no fucking reason to bound ppl`s freedom to express themselves ;; t , T | ||
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iCCup.Trent
Argentina450 Posts
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moebius_string
United States264 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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Cobalt
United States441 Posts
On October 06 2008 01:04 arbiter_md wrote:Express yourself as you want as long as you don't offend anybody. Somehow I get the feeling that no matter what you do, you're going to offend someone. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Need more MAGIC lol though they may take away the lighter from him while searching his clothes lol | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14903 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
I cant tell if they mean offensive to the general public or offensive to the other player. None of firebathero's ceremonies would be considered offensive from a public standpoint (except maybe the shirtless one). I think they mean to the player and the public... the ceremony he had w/ the rice was extremely offensive to the opposing team (it can be translated as the equivalent of giving the finger) | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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Phrogs!
Japan521 Posts
On October 06 2008 01:40 IzzyCraft wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upHvt8aQMEo Need more MAGIC lol though they may take away the lighter from him while searching his clothes lol 0:31~0:32 ROFL! One of the fan girls forgets to hide her face... so her friend behind her does it for her? | ||
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Disarray
United States1164 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
On April 24 2009 12:41 Disarray wrote: im curious what the penalty will be. will it be like what they do in the NFL where players who are good at ceremonies (I.E. T.O and OchoCinco) won't care about it, and just do what they want and take the fine ? or is it going to count as a forfiet loss or what ? Wierd bump but okay. They don't penalize the entire team for one player generally speaking. Player gets a warning, fine, and/or relieved from the game. | ||
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