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On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.
i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.
when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.
i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.
i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time. To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.Read before post !
you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?
YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL!
i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!
i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:
1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them
1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks)
1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on
result:
1. 0 suspicious
2. 0 suspisious
3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack)
i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass?
i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.
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No caps please.
Turn off maphack.
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rSk.Blaster - check wgt and iccup games
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understanding the game>cheat the game(and urself)
die
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again i repeat we should pay flag out of the tsl prize pool
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One important thing:
Its good that we can catch hackers.
But dont make HASTY DECISIONS
For example:
BW-Space is on the hackers list.
Yet there is only 1 replay of him with no clicks. This was not evidence enough according to this method. I feel that most people are abit too eager to catch the hackers and if they find someone calling someone a hacker and posting 1 rep at some sight they post it at their own site aswell. If BW-Space is really a hacker, then so be it. But atleast wait for some more replays, OR post the replays for us to download.
I know many real hackers will be caught, but there might be some exceptions if the replaycount is too low.
/Anotherday
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On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.
i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.
when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.
i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.
i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time. To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.Read before post ! you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE? YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL! i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post! i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network: 1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them 1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks) 1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on result: 1. 0 suspicious 2. 0 suspisious 3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack) i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass? i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.
the selects will not be marked suspicious when u play against computers. run your tests with a real player.
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On April 21 2008 21:14 gusbear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.
i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.
when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.
i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.
i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time. To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.Read before post ! you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE? YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL! i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post! i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network: 1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them 1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks) 1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on result: 1. 0 suspicious 2. 0 suspisious 3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack) i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass? i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method. the selects will not be marked suspicious when u play against computers. run your tests with a real player.
shall i quote myself?
there you go:
"i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:"
so i didnt play vs computer, i tested that first, and saw that it doesnt work, thats why i played against myself on PvPGN.
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Braavos36390 Posts
You are doing something wrong.
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South Africa4316 Posts
disMami, did you make sure that the map hack was completely closed when you did your first test. Simply disabling the maphack won't work, it needs to be completely closed.
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On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.
i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.
when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.
i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.
i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time. To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.Read before post ! you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE? YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL! i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post! i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network: 1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them 1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks) 1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on result: 1. 0 suspicious
2. 0 suspisious
3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack)i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass? i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.
No Caps please.
As for your question, you should definitely read the OP before shouting.
On April 20 2008 22:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
Reload BWChart to refresh. Now BWChart will mark any selection of an opponent's unit as suspicious. When you reload BWChart, go to "Charts" and uncheck all the boxes in the bottom left box instead of "Suspicious" and you should see suspicious events in red.
Lack of any suspicious actions is what is actually suspicious though.
You are looking for Zero Suspicious actions. As you have said, the maphack you are using prevented the clicks you made on your opponents building to show up in the replay. This is what the method is looking for.
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The creator of oblivion confirmed this method of detection.
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On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.
i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.
when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.
i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.
i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time. To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.Read before post ! you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE? YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL! i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!
Manner please. Why don't you try like a 15 min game on BNet with hack completely disabled? 0 suspicious w/Hack is expected.
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On April 21 2008 21:02 t_co wrote:
again i repeat we should pay flag out of the tsl prize pool
If he wins TSL then sure, promising a certain amount of cash for the 1st 2nd 3rd place etc. and then change it 3 hours before the qualifiers so we can give flag some of the money would be retarded, it's not gonna happen so just drop it already.
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On April 21 2008 21:34 disMami wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2008 21:14 gusbear wrote:On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.
i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.
when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.
i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.
i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time. To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.Read before post ! you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE? YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL! i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post! i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network: 1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them 1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks) 1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on result: 1. 0 suspicious 2. 0 suspisious 3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack) i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass? i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method. the selects will not be marked suspicious when u play against computers. run your tests with a real player. shall i quote myself? there you go: "i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:" so i didnt play vs computer, i tested that first, and saw that it doesnt work, thats why i played against myself on PvPGN.
lol shall i quote myself?
there you go:
"run your tests with a real player" and i mean not yourself.
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sT-Kassios- full proof , National member of france A , player in wgtour ladder , iccup and TSL-
Replay pack of 8 replays : 8 games 0 sus selects .(wgtour clanleague)
[url blocked]
Also , if you want more replays ( all +15 minutes ) , Bundy ( france A) checked 15 others "fresh" replays , all with 0 susp slect. ( if some tsl admin need em just pm me).
sad.
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On April 21 2008 06:17 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:youre an idiot. fpplay doesnt show exactly where the player was looking at. it puts the screen wherever the person right clicked.
lol I was going to say this same thing
KEEP YOUR MOTH SHUT charcute NOOB
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On April 21 2008 20:46 BlackStar wrote:
No caps please.
Turn off maphack.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
add chunjae[media] to the list he's sitting here chatting about it now..
Completely insigniificant waste of life but he definately hacks and shows up from time to time to events. Worth a ban 
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One only needed to hear him speak to know he was a hacker
seriously
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EPT
