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disMami
Profile Joined April 2008
Togo11 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-21 11:48:47
April 21 2008 11:45 GMT
#381
On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.

i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.

when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.

i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.

i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time.

To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.
Read before post !


you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?

YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL!

i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!

i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:
1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them
1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks)
1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on

result:
1. 0 suspicious
2. 0 suspisious
3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack)

i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass?

i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.
dini scheiss müeter
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
April 21 2008 11:46 GMT
#382
No caps please.

Turn off maphack.
trancertt
Profile Joined February 2008
Croatia37 Posts
April 21 2008 11:47 GMT
#383
rSk.Blaster - check wgt and iccup games
Get.WhistleR
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway16 Posts
April 21 2008 11:51 GMT
#384
understanding the game>cheat the game(and urself)

die
sky__zerg!
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
April 21 2008 12:02 GMT
#385
again i repeat we should pay flag out of the tsl prize pool
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 21 2008 12:12 GMT
#386
One important thing:

Its good that we can catch hackers.
But dont make HASTY DECISIONS

For example:
BW-Space is on the hackers list.

Yet there is only 1 replay of him with no clicks. This was not evidence enough according to this method. I feel that most people are abit too eager to catch the hackers and if they find someone calling someone a hacker and posting 1 rep at some sight they post it at their own site aswell. If BW-Space is really a hacker, then so be it. But atleast wait for some more replays, OR post the replays for us to download.

I know many real hackers will be caught, but there might be some exceptions if the replaycount is too low.

/Anotherday
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
April 21 2008 12:14 GMT
#387
On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:
On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.

i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.

when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.

i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.

i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time.

To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.
Read before post !


you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?

YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL!

i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!

i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:
1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them
1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks)
1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on

result:
1. 0 suspicious
2. 0 suspisious
3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack)

i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass?

i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.


the selects will not be marked suspicious when u play against computers. run your tests with a real player.
disMami
Profile Joined April 2008
Togo11 Posts
April 21 2008 12:34 GMT
#388
On April 21 2008 21:14 gusbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:
On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:
On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.

i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.

when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.

i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.

i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time.

To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.
Read before post !


you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?

YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL!

i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!

i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:
1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them
1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks)
1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on

result:
1. 0 suspicious
2. 0 suspisious
3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack)

i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass?

i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.


the selects will not be marked suspicious when u play against computers. run your tests with a real player.


shall i quote myself?
there you go:
"i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:"

so i didnt play vs computer, i tested that first, and saw that it doesnt work, thats why i played against myself on PvPGN.
dini scheiss müeter
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 21 2008 12:38 GMT
#389
You are doing something wrong.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
April 21 2008 12:42 GMT
#390
disMami, did you make sure that the map hack was completely closed when you did your first test. Simply disabling the maphack won't work, it needs to be completely closed.
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dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
April 21 2008 12:45 GMT
#391
On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:
On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.

i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.

when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.

i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.

i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time.

To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.
Read before post !


you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?

YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL!

i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!

i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:
1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them
1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks)
1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on

result:
1. 0 suspicious
2. 0 suspisious
3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack)


i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass?

i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.


No Caps please.

As for your question, you should definitely read the OP before shouting.

On April 20 2008 22:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
Reload BWChart to refresh. Now BWChart will mark any selection of an opponent's unit as suspicious. When you reload BWChart, go to "Charts" and uncheck all the boxes in the bottom left box instead of "Suspicious" and you should see suspicious events in red.

Lack of any suspicious actions is what is actually suspicious though.


You are looking for Zero Suspicious actions. As you have said, the maphack you are using prevented the clicks you made on your opponents building to show up in the replay. This is what the method is looking for.

TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #26
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
April 21 2008 12:52 GMT
#392
The creator of oblivion confirmed this method of detection.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
April 21 2008 12:52 GMT
#393
On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:
On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.

i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.

when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.

i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.

i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time.

To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.
Read before post !


you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?

YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL!

i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!

Manner please. Why don't you try like a 15 min game on BNet with hack completely disabled? 0 suspicious w/Hack is expected.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
April 21 2008 12:57 GMT
#394
On April 21 2008 21:02 t_co wrote:
again i repeat we should pay flag out of the tsl prize pool


If he wins TSL then sure, promising a certain amount of cash for the 1st 2nd 3rd place etc. and then change it 3 hours before the qualifiers so we can give flag some of the money would be retarded, it's not gonna happen so just drop it already.
We make signature, then defense it.
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
April 21 2008 13:17 GMT
#395
On April 21 2008 21:34 disMami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 21:14 gusbear wrote:
On April 21 2008 20:45 disMami wrote:
On April 21 2008 18:54 kroko wrote:
On April 21 2008 18:50 disMami wrote:
i wonder how good this was tested.

i just made some little tests, and the result was way different than in the explanation.

when i selected enemy buildings without any hack on i got 0 suspicious actions. when i loaded maphack #1 and selected buildings trough the fog of war, those clicks came up in the rep, but were not marked as hack or suspicious. then i loaded maphack #2 and selected through the fog of war, those clicks didnt show up in the rep at all.

i dont want to make this method bad or anything, but i really wonder how it got tested and who the so called "experts" are who verfied this method.

i will make some more tests, and post the result, with the replays. but i have an exam tomorrow so i cant spend to much time.

To do so, open BWChart v1.03G, go to “Options” and “Other Options.” Change the “Suspicious events” field to “Ignore events after: 2000 minutes instead of minutes (default).” Reload BWChart to refresh.
Read before post !


you tell me to read before i post? DID YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?

YOU DUMB FUCK DONT GET IT AT ALL!

i read really good how to do it. but you obviously are too stupid to get what im questioning in my post!

i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:
1 without maphack and clicks on enemy buildings, when i had vision of them
1 with maphack #1 and clicks through the fog of war (aka hack clicks)
1 with maphack #2 and clicks through the fog of war and with vision on

result:
1. 0 suspicious
2. 0 suspisious
3. 0 suspisious (but no select actions got saved in the rep, aka safe click maphack)

i know i used a hack to make some of those click, which would be impossible to make without a map hack, BUT BWCHART DIDNT DETECT THOSE, EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE IN THE REPLAY! got it now dumbass?

i also checked another replay which is 100% hack coz of 5 frames gather actions, and there were suspüicious actions, aka no hack used according to this method.


the selects will not be marked suspicious when u play against computers. run your tests with a real player.


shall i quote myself?
there you go:
"i made 3 games so far and all of them are less than 1 min, coz i played vs myself with multi bw on a local PvPGN network:"

so i didnt play vs computer, i tested that first, and saw that it doesnt work, thats why i played against myself on PvPGN.


lol shall i quote myself?
there you go:
"run your tests with a real player" and i mean not yourself.
axel
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
France385 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-21 13:36:36
April 21 2008 13:35 GMT
#396
sT-Kassios- full proof , National member of france A , player in wgtour ladder , iccup and TSL-

Replay pack of 8 replays : 8 games 0 sus selects .(wgtour clanleague)
[url blocked]
Also , if you want more replays ( all +15 minutes ) , Bundy ( france A) checked 15 others "fresh" replays , all with 0 susp slect. ( if some tsl admin need em just pm me).

sad.

minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
April 21 2008 13:45 GMT
#397
On April 21 2008 06:17 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 05:43 charcute wrote:
ya is it, you can download here
http://www.bwprogrammers.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=43

when you load the rep, its going to be in fpview. The command are /fpplay on or off
/fpemul 0 or 1
/fpnext to switch player

don't forget to put off all vision but testie and you'll see testie looking at xiaozi base in fog

youre an idiot. fpplay doesnt show exactly where the player was looking at. it puts the screen wherever the person right clicked.


lol I was going to say this same thing

KEEP YOUR MOTH SHUT charcute NOOB
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
April 21 2008 14:11 GMT
#398
On April 21 2008 20:46 BlackStar wrote:
No caps please.

Turn off maphack.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 21 2008 14:55 GMT
#399
add chunjae[media] to the list he's sitting here chatting about it now..

Completely insigniificant waste of life but he definately hacks and shows up from time to time to events. Worth a ban
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 21 2008 15:03 GMT
#400
One only needed to hear him speak to know he was a hacker
seriously
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
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