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On March 27 2026 21:58 ...onmYwaY wrote:It only took 37 minutes into todays stream before we got it! ”I was watching Boxers’ stream yesterday and I am not going to lie, he plays, he plays like a fu**ing retard”Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 03:27 KameZerg wrote:On March 27 2026 03:10 ...onmYwaY wrote:
And am I preconceived to include players such as Bonyth, Trutacz, eOnzerg, Oya, Sziky (maybe even Dewalt, SPX etc.) as "Retarded Europeans"?
Maybe the South Americans should be included into their own "retarded"-category as well? Terror, Dandy etc.?
All of them f**k Gyp in his gaping hole... no pun intended. I think he is referring to the 90% some ladder players, not select few. I have a similar impression, that European ladder in large is trash. You can never get any good playing EU ladder not just because the players lack skill but mainly because of how they choose to play. You only get to play against semi all-ins or pure all-ins and you either block their cheesy attempts and the game is instantly over or you occasionally slip up and they get a win. Games don't go any deeper than that. It's one of the reasons i paid for VPN not just to play "Better" players but to get away from those type of dumb games. While I might agree with it I still reflect that... - Artosis reaches pretty much the same MMR from both Korea/Canada (after years of playing). Why has he not blown up to 2500 after the change of environment? - Let's say that the answer to above (and the reason why the top European players like Bonyth, eOnzerg, Sziky etc.) is that they play through a VPN - then why did Gyp. have to go to Korea and could just not do the same? I do not at all deny that TR24/low practice in Korea has massive benefits. But flying half way across the world just to sit in an Airbnb and play just to get MMR on a ladder, not even trying to attend the ASL qualifier... while acting like a man-child... Thats... rough... NOTE! eOnzerg both played and took a picture with Flash on his ASL qualifier try - respect.
When i went to Korea i was really really good. i Won the biggest tournaments at the time. BSL and Pro series. My MMR was 2500 and that was the MMR i reached constantly in Korea. Obviously i been always playing with vpn so while the experience in Korea with TR24 helped with muta micro and more quality practise ( Sponsored games ) latency will not magically make you a better player. The chance of the struggles you are having with TR 16 low latency are most likely the same you will have with TR24.
But some of you need to realized that going to Korea by yourself to dedicate to play starcraft as a foreigner is far from ideal.
Language barrier is really hard. Culture Shock. When i was in Korea i was always in disbelief that almost every city i visited will have the same Buildings. The same shops in the same order etc. After 2 months there i started to feel like i was living in a Simulation. So while you are focused on trying to improve your game. There are many aspects outside of it that are relevant. For example in Korea most of the places i visited the mattress was almost like sleeping in a table. Except one very last hotel that Artosis reserved for us that it was the best sleep i got in 3 months there. You cant really talk to anyone if they dont speak english. I was kicked from a taxi for no having the adress in hangul. sure thats on me but i was expecting a little bit of help instead of just someone saying. KAAAAA that basically means GO. lol. ALways with the fear of eating something so spicy that will wake you up at 3 am with your ass onfire.
I have to be honest im a bit dissapointed that a foreigner decided to go to Korea to improve/ challenge himself and we got nothing but 8 pages trying to bring him down. As someone that was in that place not many people really get it.
Is also not fair to compare progress or anything cuz Gypsy right now is living in a different timeline. When i went to Korea ASL qualifiers were offline in PC bangs. I also got the opportunity to play in the ACS qualifiers to gather experience.
Gypsy ASL qualifiers now are online. So in my eyes he didnt really miss that offline perspective of seeing the progamers eye to eye etc. I dont know the reasons he didnt try but i imagine he just didnt feel prepared based on his practise and let it go.
Also like someone did mention early on. Spon games these days are more rare compared to 2019. I played a ton of those back then and it helped a lot to calm my nerves while playing progamers. I was so used to it that when i played FlaSh in the qualifiers i wasnt even nervous lol.
Also in USA and specially in the gaming communities. The word retarded is pretty common to use. Recently i can tell is a more sensitive word and i see people calling it the ''R'' word instead. But i doubt he is attacking a person with a real discapicity. I mean shit i feel like that GIf oh hommer simpson hiding in a bush cuz i also use that word sometimes..
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As someone who went to KR/CN for a different game in 2019 right before the world went to shit, it was kinda nice to just go in with the goku mindset of "I just wanna fight strong guys"
So as a (sorta) outsider looking in it's a bit of a shame Gypsy didn't give ASL Qual a shot just for the in person experience alone but totally understandable. Wish him the best in his journey and hoping he gets some nice level ups in his play with the time spent there.
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On March 28 2026 05:37 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 21:58 ...onmYwaY wrote:It only took 37 minutes into todays stream before we got it! ”I was watching Boxers’ stream yesterday and I am not going to lie, he plays, he plays like a fu**ing retard”On March 27 2026 03:27 KameZerg wrote:On March 27 2026 03:10 ...onmYwaY wrote:
And am I preconceived to include players such as Bonyth, Trutacz, eOnzerg, Oya, Sziky (maybe even Dewalt, SPX etc.) as "Retarded Europeans"?
Maybe the South Americans should be included into their own "retarded"-category as well? Terror, Dandy etc.?
All of them f**k Gyp in his gaping hole... no pun intended. I think he is referring to the 90% some ladder players, not select few. I have a similar impression, that European ladder in large is trash. You can never get any good playing EU ladder not just because the players lack skill but mainly because of how they choose to play. You only get to play against semi all-ins or pure all-ins and you either block their cheesy attempts and the game is instantly over or you occasionally slip up and they get a win. Games don't go any deeper than that. It's one of the reasons i paid for VPN not just to play "Better" players but to get away from those type of dumb games. While I might agree with it I still reflect that... - Artosis reaches pretty much the same MMR from both Korea/Canada (after years of playing). Why has he not blown up to 2500 after the change of environment? - Let's say that the answer to above (and the reason why the top European players like Bonyth, eOnzerg, Sziky etc.) is that they play through a VPN - then why did Gyp. have to go to Korea and could just not do the same? I do not at all deny that TR24/low practice in Korea has massive benefits. But flying half way across the world just to sit in an Airbnb and play just to get MMR on a ladder, not even trying to attend the ASL qualifier... while acting like a man-child... Thats... rough... NOTE! eOnzerg both played and took a picture with Flash on his ASL qualifier try - respect. When i went to Korea i was really really good. i Won the biggest tournaments at the time. BSL and Pro series. My MMR was 2500 and that was the MMR i reached constantly in Korea. Obviously i been always playing with vpn so while the experience in Korea with TR24 helped with muta micro and more quality practise ( Sponsored games ) latency will not magically make you a better player. The chance of the struggles you are having with TR 16 low latency are most likely the same you will have with TR24. But some of you need to realized that going to Korea by yourself to dedicate to play starcraft as a foreigner is far from ideal. Language barrier is really hard. Culture Shock. When i was in Korea i was always in disbelief that almost every city i visited will have the same Buildings. The same shops in the same order etc. After 2 months there i started to feel like i was living in a Simulation. So while you are focused on trying to improve your game. There are many aspects outside of it that are relevant. For example in Korea most of the places i visited the mattress was almost like sleeping in a table. Except one very last hotel that Artosis reserved for us that it was the best sleep i got in 3 months there. You cant really talk to anyone if they dont speak english. I was kicked from a taxi for no having the adress in hangul. sure thats on me but i was expecting a little bit of help instead of just someone saying. KAAAAA that basically means GO. lol. ALways with the fear of eating something so spicy that will wake you up at 3 am with your ass onfire. I have to be honest im a bit dissapointed that a foreigner decided to go to Korea to improve/ challenge himself and we got nothing but 8 pages trying to bring him down. As someone that was in that place not many people really get it. Is also not fair to compare progress or anything cuz Gypsy right now is living in a different timeline. When i went to Korea ASL qualifiers were offline in PC bangs. I also got the opportunity to play in the ACS qualifiers to gather experience. Gypsy ASL qualifiers now are online. So in my eyes he didnt really miss that offline perspective of seeing the progamers eye to eye etc. I dont know the reasons he didnt try but i imagine he just didnt feel prepared based on his practise and let it go. Also like someone did mention early on. Spon games these days are more rare compared to 2019. I played a ton of those back then and it helped a lot to calm my nerves while playing progamers. I was so used to it that when i played FlaSh in the qualifiers i wasnt even nervous lol. Also in USA and specially in the gaming communities. The word retarded is pretty common to use. Recently i can tell is a more sensitive word and i see people calling it the ''R'' word instead. But i doubt he is attacking a person with a real discapicity. I mean shit i feel like that GIf oh hommer simpson hiding in a bush cuz i also use that word sometimes..
Thanks for sharing your experience and insights eOn. I would love to read a blog about your Korean escapades; if you haven't written one yet, hopefully one day you will 🙂
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On March 28 2026 05:37 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 21:58 ...onmYwaY wrote:It only took 37 minutes into todays stream before we got it! ”I was watching Boxers’ stream yesterday and I am not going to lie, he plays, he plays like a fu**ing retard”On March 27 2026 03:27 KameZerg wrote:On March 27 2026 03:10 ...onmYwaY wrote:
And am I preconceived to include players such as Bonyth, Trutacz, eOnzerg, Oya, Sziky (maybe even Dewalt, SPX etc.) as "Retarded Europeans"?
Maybe the South Americans should be included into their own "retarded"-category as well? Terror, Dandy etc.?
All of them f**k Gyp in his gaping hole... no pun intended. I think he is referring to the 90% some ladder players, not select few. I have a similar impression, that European ladder in large is trash. You can never get any good playing EU ladder not just because the players lack skill but mainly because of how they choose to play. You only get to play against semi all-ins or pure all-ins and you either block their cheesy attempts and the game is instantly over or you occasionally slip up and they get a win. Games don't go any deeper than that. It's one of the reasons i paid for VPN not just to play "Better" players but to get away from those type of dumb games. While I might agree with it I still reflect that... - Artosis reaches pretty much the same MMR from both Korea/Canada (after years of playing). Why has he not blown up to 2500 after the change of environment? - Let's say that the answer to above (and the reason why the top European players like Bonyth, eOnzerg, Sziky etc.) is that they play through a VPN - then why did Gyp. have to go to Korea and could just not do the same? I do not at all deny that TR24/low practice in Korea has massive benefits. But flying half way across the world just to sit in an Airbnb and play just to get MMR on a ladder, not even trying to attend the ASL qualifier... while acting like a man-child... Thats... rough... NOTE! eOnzerg both played and took a picture with Flash on his ASL qualifier try - respect. When i went to Korea i was really really good. i Won the biggest tournaments at the time. BSL and Pro series. My MMR was 2500 and that was the MMR i reached constantly in Korea. Obviously i been always playing with vpn so while the experience in Korea with TR24 helped with muta micro and more quality practise ( Sponsored games ) latency will not magically make you a better player. The chance of the struggles you are having with TR 16 low latency are most likely the same you will have with TR24. But some of you need to realized that going to Korea by yourself to dedicate to play starcraft as a foreigner is far from ideal. Language barrier is really hard. Culture Shock. When i was in Korea i was always in disbelief that almost every city i visited will have the same Buildings. The same shops in the same order etc. After 2 months there i started to feel like i was living in a Simulation. So while you are focused on trying to improve your game. There are many aspects outside of it that are relevant. For example in Korea most of the places i visited the mattress was almost like sleeping in a table. Except one very last hotel that Artosis reserved for us that it was the best sleep i got in 3 months there. You cant really talk to anyone if they dont speak english. I was kicked from a taxi for no having the adress in hangul. sure thats on me but i was expecting a little bit of help instead of just someone saying. KAAAAA that basically means GO. lol. ALways with the fear of eating something so spicy that will wake you up at 3 am with your ass onfire. I have to be honest im a bit dissapointed that a foreigner decided to go to Korea to improve/ challenge himself and we got nothing but 8 pages trying to bring him down. As someone that was in that place not many people really get it. Is also not fair to compare progress or anything cuz Gypsy right now is living in a different timeline. When i went to Korea ASL qualifiers were offline in PC bangs. I also got the opportunity to play in the ACS qualifiers to gather experience. Gypsy ASL qualifiers now are online. So in my eyes he didnt really miss that offline perspective of seeing the progamers eye to eye etc. I dont know the reasons he didnt try but i imagine he just didnt feel prepared based on his practise and let it go. Also like someone did mention early on. Spon games these days are more rare compared to 2019. I played a ton of those back then and it helped a lot to calm my nerves while playing progamers. I was so used to it that when i played FlaSh in the qualifiers i wasnt even nervous lol. Also in USA and specially in the gaming communities. The word retarded is pretty common to use. Recently i can tell is a more sensitive word and i see people calling it the ''R'' word instead. But i doubt he is attacking a person with a real discapicity. I mean shit i feel like that GIf oh hommer simpson hiding in a bush cuz i also use that word sometimes..
Thanks for sharing your experience eOn, I was an avid follower back then – like to think I watched most if not all streams.
I 100% agree and respect the extreme challenge of going there, pretty much alone - and in Gyps own words, more or less without a plan. That takes some courage for sure. Even though times were different, everyone that went either now or all the way back to the early 2000s deserve massive respect (incl. Gyp).
Subjectively I am not trying to bring anyone down - in Gyps case though I think he does it all by himself - talking about "gaping a**holes", "fu**ing retards", [insert person X]..."fu**ing su*k", "can go and f**k himself" etc. But I get it - it's childish and immature - stuff that I guess I am too “old” to understand. He probably does not give a damn but publicly I think he would benefit from cleaning up his act... a lot - if he want (more*) people to support him at all that is.
I guess the only thing I am guilty of is not understanding the objective here at all, to sit in an Airbnb, act like a being mentally underage, win and loose some rather pointless games, talk about SPON and pro-games which are either very rare or…? That’s why I asked if anyone could either collect, or link a few pro-games… Playing vs. them on TR24/low is at least some experience. Hell… I don’t know.
Good luck.
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On March 27 2026 07:57 StaticNine wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 06:31 ...onmYwaY wrote:On March 27 2026 04:47 Qikz wrote:On March 27 2026 03:10 ...onmYwaY wrote:
And am I preconceived to include players such as Bonyth, Trutacz, eOnzerg, Oya, Sziky (maybe even Dewalt, SPX etc.) as "Retarded Europeans"?
Maybe the South Americans should be included into their own "retarded"-category as well? Terror, Dandy etc.?
All of them f**k Gyp in his gaping hole... no pun intended. I really wish people would stop using that word. It's hateful and incredibly ableist. I agree. However, I think that is one of Gyps' favorite words. It's incredibly childish and immature. But that is what he is (immature) I guess - so we can't hope for more. I did not watch him at all before he went to Korea but I remember a "North American" stream when he more or less said that, and much more right in the face to DocHoliday. Hard to root for the guy... I dunno, is it hateful and ableist when someone calls an umpire blind? I don't think gyp means anything by it.
I mean most don’t, just in 2026 it’s not really the done thing. As a human primarily formed in the 90s I mean plenty of ‘retard’ or ‘faggot’, ‘raped’ were thrown around casually with no particular discriminatory intent behind em.
But it’s not that hard to scrub from the auld vernacular like. I mean I did, 30s year old me would find teen/early 20s me pretty embarrassing. Plenty on here did also, it’s like night and day looking at some 2000s threads on here and the language versus the 2020s.
Doesn’t mean someone who’s not bothered to make that minor adjustment is some kind of monster, but it really isn’t hard to do, and you don’t really lose any ability to articulate whatever it is you wanna convey
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