EPTDon't comment unless you watch the video. I made this video with this website in mind. I spent hours reading through all the comments in each thread about RAPiD and the BSL. I wanted to lay everything out clearly so that people here who didn't fully understand the situation could finally understand exactly what happened.
I casted with RAPiD at the BSL LAN
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Saiyan_SC
2 Posts
Don't comment unless you watch the video. I made this video with this website in mind. I spent hours reading through all the comments in each thread about RAPiD and the BSL. I wanted to lay everything out clearly so that people here who didn't fully understand the situation could finally understand exactly what happened. | ||
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dr0pship
Canada520 Posts
having a 25 year anniversary LAN on a beach in Thailand was cool seemed fun i heard even a progamer from korea called sharp went to the lan. and bonyth beat him. thats pretty cool. everyone clapped and cheered when he won. i think he used carriers? zzzero is a really hardworking and dedicated guy. do you like starcrafts too? i play terran, E rank, us-west. hope to see you on the internet sometime to play some starcraft strategy wargames. | ||
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Ideas
United States8092 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16695 Posts
On January 13 2024 01:47 Ideas wrote:He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him. what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur? and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?" User was warned for this post | ||
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Ideas
United States8092 Posts
On January 13 2024 02:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur? and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?" Ok don't watch the video cool | ||
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Holint_Casazr
Germany72 Posts
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Esk4l4de
Canada17 Posts
for some people its hard to read. TY Saiyan for this video. As I told you on discord, its sad that Rapid have put such a black cloud over the head of the people participating in the Lan. being there and watching is 1 thing but casting after all he have done (or not talking for 3 years and hope people will forget) is really something to think about what to do in futures events with theses kind of people. thanks again for your great casting abilities and your transparency. | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1683 Posts
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WolFix
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outscar
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16695 Posts
i watched it. i always triangulate evidence and proposed facts. i am not going to assume everything presented in a youtube video is true. furthermore, some of the allegations were precise and other allegations were vague and open ended. Also, your remedy is rather vague and open ended. What does "the starcraft community would be better without him" mean exactly? He can't play ladder games? He can't attend live events? Who polices this? | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4189 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4987 Posts
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rararara
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tec27
United States3696 Posts
On January 13 2024 06:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i watched it. i always triangulate evidence and proposed facts. i am not going to assume everything presented in a youtube video is true. furthermore, some of the allegations were precise and other allegations were vague and open ended. Also, your remedy is rather vague and open ended. What does "the starcraft community would be better without him" mean exactly? He can't play ladder games? He can't attend live events? Who polices this? We (the community) police this. Take your shit somewhere else Jimmy, this thread doesn't need your takes. | ||
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castleeMg
Canada760 Posts
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
On January 13 2024 04:14 ShowTheLights wrote: why is this being brought up again? why did you feel you needed to make a new video? let rapid fade into obscurity Sure, I think RAPiD (text, photo, video) shouldn't appear on the Internet anymore with any reasons. He doesn't deserve to mention anymore until the last month of this year. | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1166 Posts
On January 13 2024 06:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i watched it. i always triangulate evidence and proposed facts. i am not going to assume everything presented in a youtube video is true. furthermore, some of the allegations were precise and other allegations were vague and open ended. Also, your remedy is rather vague and open ended. What does "the starcraft community would be better without him" mean exactly? He can't play ladder games? He can't attend live events? Who polices this? He is so newb that it's obvious he has never played any ladder. Why do you insist on defending a vile person who damages the organizations that put faith in his goodwill? Are you his gf? I'm asking you again. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway690 Posts
On January 13 2024 13:21 G5 wrote: Watched the video and it everything in it made sense. All I really wanna say is that YOU are a phenomenal caster. I've never seen you cast outside of this tournament and I think you're really good. I hope to see you cast more stuff. QTF! Watched his commentary for a long time. Very very good caster and makes great content. | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On January 13 2024 06:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i watched it. i always triangulate evidence and proposed facts. i am not going to assume everything presented in a youtube video is true. furthermore, some of the allegations were precise and other allegations were vague and open ended. Also, your remedy is rather vague and open ended. What does "the starcraft community would be better without him" mean exactly? He can't play ladder games? He can't attend live events? Who polices this? If you watched it, why ask what the allegations are? Seems like the bad faith "I'm just asking questions" tactic being employed. Please share some of the triangulated evidence and proposed facts you gathered lol | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16695 Posts
On January 13 2024 22:39 deathgod6 wrote: If you watched it, why ask what the allegations are? Seems like the bad faith "I'm just asking questions" tactic being employed. Please share some of the triangulated evidence and proposed facts you gathered lol because i am not assuming the video has the allegations correct. Last week several videos alleged Chris Jericho engaged in sexually misconduct several years ago and they all had slightly different accounts of what the exact allegations were. People were calling for Chris Jericho to be taken off of a Pay Per View appearance that prolly pays him 6 or 7 figures... and he got boo-ed out of the building. Lots of people on all sides are looking to destroy lives while simultaneously claiming a noble "quest for the truth". So, No bad faith here. I think if you continue with your overly confrontational line of replies you'er discussing the issue in bad faith. | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On January 13 2024 23:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote: because i am not assuming the video has the allegations correct. Last week several videos alleged Chris Jericho engaged in sexually misconduct several years ago and they all had slightly different accounts of what the exact allegations were. People were calling for Chris Jericho to be taken off of a Pay Per View appearance that prolly pays him 6 or 7 figures... and he got boo-ed out of the building. Lots of people on all sides are looking to destroy lives while simultaneously claiming a noble "quest for the truth". So, No bad faith here. I think if you continue with your overly confrontational line of replies you'er discussing the issue in bad faith. Saiyan read the allegations verbatim from the original sources... again I honestly don't think you watched the video. You can also read the original sources yourself. How are the allegations not portrayed correctly? If you don't believe them, just say it instead of dancing around it. And there it is. You already have a preposition that people are "looking to destroy lives" by... accusing a third rate caster of sexual harassment. You haven't even challenged anything of substance about the allegations. You said yourself some of them are precise and others are vague. So being precise means they can't be trusted, but also being vague means they can't be trusted? Help me with your big brain logic and triangulate this lmao. And you say you use "proposed facts," so in other words allegations? | ||
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1166 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16695 Posts
On January 14 2024 00:26 BlueStar wrote: ^ Exactly end of discussion nah, i think the discussion can include in actionable remedy. So I think the discussion can move beyond just the allegations. On January 13 2024 23:50 deathgod6 wrote: You haven't even challenged anything of substance about the allegations. You said yourself some of them are precise and others are vague. So being precise means they can't be trusted, but also being vague means they can't be trusted? Help me with your big brain logic and triangulate this lmao. I need to gather more information to get to that stage. I was seeking your side based upon your vague assertion about the SC community. The repeated "lol" and "lmao" in each post combined with your inability to expand upon your vague remedy indicates to me you are probably discussing this in bad faith. If you want examples of triangulating evidence, theories, and proposed facts in the face of a complex situation check out my posts in the health and fitness thread. That's usually how I approach things. On January 13 2024 23:50 deathgod6 wrote: Help me with your big brain logic and triangulate this lmao. ya, this is discussion in bad faith. | ||
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art_of_turtle
United States1183 Posts
On January 14 2024 01:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote: nah, i think the discussion can include in actionable remedy. So I think the discussion can move beyond just the allegations. I need to gather more information to get to that stage. I was seeking your side based upon your vague assertion about the SC community. The repeated "lol" and "lmao" in each post combined with your inability to expand upon your vague remedy indicates to me you are probably discussing this in bad faith. If you want examples of triangulating evidence, theories, and proposed facts in the face of a complex situation check out my posts in the health and fitness thread. That's usually how I approach things. ya, this is discussion in bad faith. The actionable remedy is disclosure on his side of the allegations, but yet again Rapid has completely dodged responsibility. Which I truly doubt we will ever receive anything as he again has gone into hiding. Keep defending cowards for all I care. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16695 Posts
On January 14 2024 01:16 art_of_turtle wrote: The actionable remedy is disclosure on his side of the allegations, but yet again Rapid has completely dodged responsibility. Which I truly doubt we will ever receive anything as he again has gone into hiding. Keep defending cowards for all I care. There is a decent chance he is laughing his ass off reading this stuff. Defending him? How? I can't even figure out how old this guy is. Any one know how old he is? At this point, I think the best actionable remedy is for live event promoters to make their own independent decisions on who they want at their events. Let the free market prevail. I think "banning for life" is silly and immature. I think if a live event promoter were to ban him from an event 15 years from now they'd look kinda silly. Again, though, let the free market prevail. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway690 Posts
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castleeMg
Canada760 Posts
Defending him? How? I can't even figure out how old this guy is. Any one know how old he is? Yes you are defending him, seemingly with very little knowledge of the history of the whole situation despite claiming to of watched the video. Also Sayian says within the first 5 minutes of the video that Rapid was born in 91/92. Clearly you didn’t watch it, Idk what his age has to do with anything. He could have been 22 or 40, it doesn’t change anything. I think you’re either trolling here, which would be super weird and in bad taste or you’re just an idiot. Either way, not a great look. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
I could imagine someone teaching him that it's okay to pursue sex with women quickly and directly, and also him hearing that persistence is key when it comes to getting women... and then discovering the hard way that actually if you want sex in any context other than a romantic relationship, the world is very quick to socially castrate you. The truth is that only a small number of men get away with banging lots of chicks without being pillaried for it - and they're all rich and successful. As a poor, unsuccessful party boy, Rapid never stood a chance. In fairness, and I do mean fairness, having such a large sex drive probably makes not having sex frequently pretty uncomfortable - but at this point in history, men's discomforts that arise from not getting to bang aren't respected on anywhere near the same level as womens' discomforts with having to bang - and most people who think they're better than Rapid either have much lower sex drive than him or jerk off to pornography in private so they can be appropriately meek in public. That's probably you reading this comment (by the numbers). My point is this: If you're shitting on Rapid for going after sex with women, but you jerk off to porn so you can fit into society - you're probably not much better than he is on a moral level - you're just smarter about living in a way that doesn't directly upset the people you interact with. Rapid isn't an evil man - he's just a complete idiot. Lol | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On January 14 2024 05:45 JimmiC wrote: What are you even talking about, you can be straightforward. You can't send pictures your junk (the same way you can't flash people) without permission and if they are under 18 it makes it far more creepy. I might not have been specific enough - "Many women accused Rapid of overt sexual advances that were incredibly inappropriate." "Mr. Rapid came over and his first words were, 'My dick is 26 cm long'" It's not a dick pic, but it is a dick-first statement. He seems to use dick-first statements a lot. I interpret it as he mistakenly thinks that talking about having a big dick is a way to maneuver the conversation towards eventually hooking up in as straightforward and efficient a way as possible. So - that's what I'm talking about. When you say, "You can be straightforward", do you think there's many more straightforward ways of trying to get sexual than immediately talking about your dick? If so you're more straightforward than I know how to be. Perhaps you could educate me on how to be straightforward with a woman you barely know such that you want to bang her but don't want to be in a romantic relationship with her, and in a way that won't make her uncomfortable or get yourself labeled as hypersexual. I'm open to learning that. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4081 Posts
On January 14 2024 08:39 ThunderJunk wrote: I might not have been specific enough - "Many women accused Rapid of overt sexual advances that were incredibly inappropriate." "Mr. Rapid came over and his first words were, 'My dick is 26 cm long'" It's not a dick pic, but it is a dick-first statement. He seems to use dick-first statements a lot. I interpret it as he mistakenly thinks that talking about having a big dick is a way to maneuver the conversation towards eventually hooking up in as straightforward and efficient a way as possible. So - that's what I'm talking about. When you say, "You can be straightforward", do you think there's many more straightforward ways of trying to get sexual than immediately talking about your dick? If so you're more straightforward than I know how to be. Perhaps you could educate me on how to be straightforward with a woman you barely know such that you want to bang her but don't want to be in a romantic relationship with her, and in a way that won't make her uncomfortable or get yourself labeled as hypersexual. I'm open to learning that. Here's how: you go to night clubs. All dedicated places for that specific purpose. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
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ruhtraeel
Canada119 Posts
On January 14 2024 08:39 ThunderJunk wrote: I might not have been specific enough - "Many women accused Rapid of overt sexual advances that were incredibly inappropriate." "Mr. Rapid came over and his first words were, 'My dick is 26 cm long'" It's not a dick pic, but it is a dick-first statement. He seems to use dick-first statements a lot. I interpret it as he mistakenly thinks that talking about having a big dick is a way to maneuver the conversation towards eventually hooking up in as straightforward and efficient a way as possible. So - that's what I'm talking about. When you say, "You can be straightforward", do you think there's many more straightforward ways of trying to get sexual than immediately talking about your dick? If so you're more straightforward than I know how to be. Perhaps you could educate me on how to be straightforward with a woman you barely know such that you want to bang her but don't want to be in a romantic relationship with her, and in a way that won't make her uncomfortable or get yourself labeled as hypersexual. I'm open to learning that. Lol it's funny to read a thread asking for sexual advice on a forum of a 25 year old game | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On January 14 2024 08:51 Magic Powers wrote: Here's how: you go to night clubs. All dedicated places for that specific purpose. Yes - that would be smarter than blowing up your professsional space, wouldn't it. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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BulgarianToss
Bulgaria484 Posts
On January 14 2024 08:39 ThunderJunk wrote: "Mr. Rapid came over and his first words were, 'My dick is 26 cm long'" It's not a dick pic, but it is a dick-first statement. Dude, i'm so thankful i got to read this, my depression vanished in a second and i burst out laughing. My point is this: If you're shitting on Rapid for going after sex with women, but you jerk off to porn so you can fit into society - you're probably not much better than he is on a moral level - you're just smarter about living in a way that doesn't directly upset the people you interact with. This is a really good point btw. How many of us watched and jerked off to porn? No judgement. What if the girls or women you are watching are forced to do it by some psychopats who mistreat them daily? You can be sure that's the case for some of them, because human trafficking/slavery is real. Don't know why we are still opening more threads about Rapid's junk, but this is good food for thought. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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dearxfrancis
4 Posts
1. Disband BSL, it wasn't a mistake what you did. you just didn't do anything. only until you were called out. 2. Anyone at that table, in that room, who did nothing. or advocates for rapid should take a hard look at themselves. 3. Calling someone a pussy on the internet after you literally sat next to them for an entire weekend and shared meals with them despite feeling "awkward" and "confused" is strange move my guy. E-SPORTS community continues to be gross into 2024. Right on. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On January 15 2024 13:29 dearxfrancis wrote: Makes a video documenting RAPIDS career ( Lol, career ) of shitty behavior across multiple communities over a long span of time. Shares content in the same video of RAPID casting, having beers, meals and and over all good time with event organizers and participators. Then you call him a Pussy on the internet? 1. Disband BSL, it wasn't a mistake what you did. you just didn't do anything. only until you were called out. 2. Anyone at that table, in that room, who did nothing. or advocates for rapid should take a hard look at themselves. 3. Calling someone a pussy on the internet after you literally sat next to them for an entire weekend and shared meals with them despite feeling "awkward" and "confused" is strange move my guy. E-SPORTS community continues to be gross into 2024. Right on. This is all the same logic that leads to "so why didn't you report it earlier" being levelled at victims. This is gross. Also thanks Saiyan for the video. I thought it was very fair, and well-made. | ||
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dearxfrancis
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On January 15 2024 13:45 dearxfrancis wrote: Yeah, no. Zero link there. You called someone a pussy after spending an entire weekend with him. Its all in the video. You're literally all hanging out. ???? I did not attend this event. And to add some more substance to my post, manipulative people take advantage of the social contract. That's what they do, and that has an effect on more people than just those they sent a dick pic to. Being scared to call out bad behaviour goes beyond the direct victims of Rapid's bad sexual behaviour, and it's very strange to try to draw lines so aggressively between "legitimate victim" and "enabler" like you're doing to Saiyan here. | ||
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dearxfrancis
4 Posts
Rapid isn't some master manipulator, he didn't hood wink an entire room, or beguile them with his charm. You all knew who he was, dudes been hiding under a rock and shows up and you didn't do anything, until you were called out. Now "saiyan" makes a video, and calls him a pussy. After hanging out with him for the entire weekend. "Rapid did this to us, he caused this shit storm' No, you did this. To yourself. Are we all watching the same video? How is this GOOD? The optics of this video are horrendous. You're hanging out with the dude. Having beers. Having dinner. Multiple days. For those of you who "don't care" about "rapid" or the "allegations". Can only imagine the quality of individual you are and the caliber of people you associate with. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On January 15 2024 13:57 dearxfrancis wrote: Rapid isn't some master manipulator, he didn't hood wink and entire room, or beguile them with his charm. If he was able to infiltrate pro team bedrooms through sheer force of personality, clearly he has something going on. Often you don't need to be a master manipulator, just sufficiently pushy. That's why I'm talking about the social contract and the power that comes from simply being selfish enough to break it. Especially around shyer, more introverted people. People twist themselves in circles for manipulators, or just pushy people, all the time. Whether it's someone at work telling a colleague the best way to "work around" another colleague's blow-ups in meetings, or an abused partner going back to the person who treats them the worst, or a caster just trying to get through a cast with a creep so as not to compromise an event. I know that sounds silly laying out those three examples next to each other despite vast differences in magnitude, but much of the underlying phenomena are the same, is the point. You all knew who he was, dudes been hiding under a rock and shows up and you didn't do anything, until you were called out. Now "saiyan" makes a video, and calls him a pussy. After hanging out with him for the entire weekend. "Rapid did this to us, he caused this shit storm' No, you did this. To yourself. Look, Saiyan (why the quotes?) could absolutely be a "pussy" for not speaking up, and for not trashing the event by refusing to cast with the guy, if that's what you want to say. But to me at least, being a "pussy" is different to being some kind of insidious enabler like you imply. Rapid made some people very uncomfortable with his pushy sexual behaviour. I'm willing to believe he also made some other people at that event uncomfortable with his pushy behaviour in general, and of course his reputation. Saiyan says as much in the video and I believe it. I think you're absolutely drawing some strange bright red lines if you say "all the people who had a sexual component to their feeling uncomfortable with Rapid are victims, all the others are enablers". Are we all watching the same video? How is this GOOD? The optics of this video are horrendous. You're hanging out with the dude. Having beers. Having dinner. Multiple days. I'll admit I mostly listened to it instead of watching it. It was the message I appreciated. A message calling out Rapid from someone with some authority in the situation. Maybe I missed something by not watching and only listening. For those of you who "don't care" about "rapid" or the "allegations". Can only imagine the quality of individual you are and the caliber of people you associate with. the E-SPORTS community attempting to hold court is hilarious. I care about the allegations. I cared about them back in 2020, when they were another reason to write off a caster I'd already written off as bringing very little game knowledge or humour to what he casted. I don't think I've posted about this controversy until now, because I don't think it's my position to "hold court". All I want to do is try to shut down the toxic black-and-white narrative that comes up in cases like these about victims versus enablers. | ||
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dearxfrancis
4 Posts
You all new who he was and you didn't anything. Thats all there is to it. Thats all had to say. You make yourselves look exponentially worse by posting this god awful video re-iterating what a piece of trash rapid is / you spending time with him. Passing the blame to him for not speaking out, we crossed that bridge already. He had his chance, he didn't take it, hes trash. Thought that was universally known. Its cool, if youre in the video. You've established now to everyone you like to hang out with Rapid. Thats your boy. Heres the thing dude. Dont like someone? Dont hang out with them. You should absolutely disband BSL. I'm amazed nobody at the event said a word. Shout out to ARTOSIS for going out round 1. Dudes stream is the most toxic thing on planet earth. I retract what I said earlier about being amazed. This "community" routinely proves how noxious it is, over and over and over. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
And sure, you could argue that makes me a "pussy" and be correct to at least some extent, though personally I'd drop the gendered insults. That's one thing. It's quite another thing to then interrogate all my behaviour around that moment to figure out how "complicit" I was in this guy's bad behaviour. That absolutely feels like the kind of thing some people will do to victims after they speak up. Now I know you said it's different, the guy who didn't speak up on stream isn't a victim, but think about it this way. Right now, you've not said anything except about Saiyan's video, which you apparently registered an account (or an alt) to trash. You've said nothing about the person who invited Rapid to the event. All of your harshness has been reserved for the one person who had the guts to properly speak up with a definitive call out of what Rapid did, and has done, even if it was after the fact. So yeah, I do think that's kinda gross. EDIT: I mean in response to this current controversy. Obviously I'm not trying to discredit or take anything away from the original people who spoke up about Rapid. | ||
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Q~Bert
United States663 Posts
On January 15 2024 13:57 dearxfrancis wrote: I'm not sure where you're getting aggressive from. You're mistaken. Rapid isn't some master manipulator, he didn't hood wink an entire room, or beguile them with his charm. You all knew who he was, dudes been hiding under a rock and shows up and you didn't do anything, until you were called out. Now "saiyan" makes a video, and calls him a pussy. After hanging out with him for the entire weekend. "Rapid did this to us, he caused this shit storm' No, you did this. To yourself. Are we all watching the same video? How is this GOOD? The optics of this video are horrendous. You're hanging out with the dude. Having beers. Having dinner. Multiple days. For those of you who "don't care" about "rapid" or the "allegations". Can only imagine the quality of individual you are and the caliber of people you associate with. You relating to Rapid's primitive and insatiable desire for intercourse and insinuating his attackers are just hypocrites suppressing their same urges with porn reveals how twisted your perception of social norms truly is. The fact that you even took the time to create an account for these posts is just one of many examples you've presented already shows how pathetic you must be. It's pretty simple - Rapid is obviously just a creepy dude who has repeatedly made terrible decisions in most facets of his life - any well adjusted, productive member of society can clearly see that. This LAN wasn't a major event with media and public relations. Your average person, much less a community of gamer nerds who travelled across the globe to attend a tournament, is not going going to want to confront an attending member or make things awkward for everyone when there is nothing to gain or lose. Zzzero is the only one who could rationally feel any responsibility for addressing the situation and even that is a stretch. In the end we are all a bunch of grown men who know right and wrong and shouldn't need a guy who already voluntarily contributes more to the community than anyone else to take time to make you all feel better. | ||
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namkraft
448 Posts
On January 15 2024 13:29 dearxfrancis wrote: Makes a video documenting RAPIDS career ( Lol, career ) of shitty behavior across multiple communities over a long span of time. Shares content in the same video of RAPID casting, having beers, meals and and over all good time with event organizers and participators. Then you call him a Pussy on the internet? Wasn't gonna say anything for fear of being banned on this forum, but had to quote you. The internet is a scary place. Or rather, it makes people become really scary. Man up. Meet Rapid in person and tell him directly what you're telling others about him. Use the same words, please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect | ||
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1166 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25125 Posts
The guy strikes me as the type who’s picked eSports and being a name in a scene, and even the minor fame and rep that comes with, rather than the passion for the former being the instrinsic motivator. Not saying he has no interest at all, but it seems these gaming scenes are useful vectors to achieve certain things more than the actual bedrock of passion. Just as some dudes/dudettes form a band to do art and express themselves, some aspire to that ego boost of being on stage. Or the increased prestige and sexual appeal that comes with. Despite being in the former camp to a self-sabotaging degree, girls were certainly more interested in me and I was in pretty shit bands believe you me! Hell I’ve casted in our Emerald Isle amateur scene as the primary/half of an Archon for well over a decade now. I’ll not lie and say I don’t get a kick out of making a good call (I once memorably called a Warp Prism 4 gate in ye olde WoL days off the second pylon placement). I also enjoy if my joke gets a laugh, or, in the aforementioned example after making said call, and hyping up the (relative) perfection of my friend’s build, only seeing him forget to switch his prism to phase and botching it completely. Got more laughs for my genuine Picard face palm and ‘noooo, not like this!’ than any actual crafted joke I’ve ever made I can totally understand why having a gig where you’re getting that bit of ego boost, of being able to bring your personality to bear and be appreciated for it can appeal to someone over a 9/5 regular job. Equally it can’t be your primary motivator, and, without amateur diagnosing Rapid as it’s a practice I despise, eSports absolutely does have a problem with narcissists even now, and historically even more so. How many people have been burned over the years by folks who want the adulation that comes with running events or orgs, but with none of the fiscal or interpersonal responsibility that comes with it? | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3358 Posts
On January 15 2024 13:29 dearxfrancis wrote: Makes a video documenting RAPIDS career ( Lol, career ) of shitty behavior across multiple communities over a long span of time. Shares content in the same video of RAPID casting, having beers, meals and and over all good time with event organizers and participators. Then you call him a Pussy on the internet? 1. Disband BSL, it wasn't a mistake what you did. you just didn't do anything. only until you were called out. 2. Anyone at that table, in that room, who did nothing. or advocates for rapid should take a hard look at themselves. 3. Calling someone a pussy on the internet after you literally sat next to them for an entire weekend and shared meals with them despite feeling "awkward" and "confused" is strange move my guy. E-SPORTS community continues to be gross into 2024. Right on. 1. Mistakes were made for sure but ZZZero did come around, reiterated the ban is in place, took his losses from this situation, andt overall owned it in the end. It takes a good and strong person to do this and it should be respected. Calling to disband BSL over this is stupid. 2. Most people do not know or care who Rapid is, there is also language barrier issues at play. I do not blame the players at all for just hanging out with anyone who attended in this situation, mostly because it is unlikely they even knew much details about rapid, not everything revolves around english language streams. The ones who advocate for Rapid after learning everything yeah it s not great, but we are also not the thought police. Public support from an organisation is one thing (rightly called out), personal player opinion is another (they are thankfully free to think whatever they want). 3. It is good Saiyan released this video before the next cast of the tournament were released. Your posts calling out the entire esports community (while there are indeed many issues with it, it isnt really related, we are a 25 year old essentially amateur group of folks and yet people were immediately up in arms about this whole ordeal) is the strange move here, as well as calling to disband BSL. Btw nobody is forcing you to stay with said community/Esport in general if you are that worked up against it. I m not saying you don't have good reasons for it, but I m saying you are taking it too far. In the same vein that given how Blizzard was shitty for very similar situations within the company, you shouldnt play any blizzard game at all. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On January 15 2024 22:44 WGT-Baal wrote: 1. Mistakes were made for sure but ZZZero did come around, reiterated the ban is in place, took his losses from this situation, andt overall owned it in the end. It takes a good and strong person to do this and it should be respected. Calling to disband BSL over this is stupid. 2. Most people do not know or care who Rapid is, there is also language barrier issues at play. I do not blame the players at all for just hanging out with anyone who attended in this situation, mostly because it is unlikely they even knew much details about rapid, not everything revolves around english language streams. The ones who advocate for Rapid after learning everything yeah it s not great, but we are also not the thought police. Public support from an organisation is one thing (rightly called out), personal player opinion is another (they are thankfully free to think whatever they want). 3. It is good Saiyan released this video before the next cast of the tournament were released. Your posts calling out the entire esports community (while there are indeed many issues with it, it isnt really related, we are a 25 year old essentially amateur group of folks and yet people were immediately up in arms about this whole ordeal) is the strange move here, as well as calling to disband BSL. Btw nobody is forcing you to stay with said community/Esport in general if you are that worked up against it. I m not saying you don't have good reasons for it, but I m saying you are taking it too far. In the same vein that given how Blizzard was shitty for very similar situations within the company, you shouldnt play any blizzard game at all. 1. Thank you for sharing your well balanced thoughts on Zzzeros role in the matter. I concur it isnt acknowledged enough by some, that he indeed DID own up to his mistakes. He deserves our respect for the way he acknowledged a mistake in public. Calling for BSL to disband is preposterous obviously and out of question for anybody reasonable. 2.personal player opinion is a very different thing and its hardly the duty of an attending player to see that Rapid is excluded. It makes no sense to blame players who just played the tournament or other casters. 3.i concur. In light of this many people have taken it to far and lashed out. It's more than time to put this issue to bed so we can work on the future of our niche game. Nobody profits if this niche community is divided into even smaller groups. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
The energy and production value of this video would be better spent on nonsense like a podcast about an interview series with Artosis, eOn and Julia having to give their opinions on Protoss (working title "good talent toi have" or "khala me amazed", just a vague idea). Would add to a Patreon, just saying. | ||
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orangeball
1 Post
On January 15 2024 16:54 namkraft wrote: Wasn't gonna say anything for fear of being banned on this forum, but had to quote you. The internet is a scary place. Or rather, it makes people become really scary. Man up. Meet Rapid in person and tell him directly what you're telling others about him. Use the same words, please. Come on my dude did you even watch the video properly? He (the OP) spoke to Rapid in person but Rapid buttered him up and promised to release a statement, only to ghost him and everyone else afterwards. That's the context behind the insult. Like yeah maybe it's a bit unecessary but why make such a big deal out of such a small detail and ignore everything else? Why is it more important that people should "man up" and insult him in person, when you could be saying that Rapid should "man up" and give a statement about the allegations instead of hiding? I'm curious what draws you towards defending Rapid - perhaps you relate to him being called a terrible caster  One thing noteworthy from the video is that the OP shows a lot of compassion in understanding that a lot of people at the event who were defending Rapid are just defending a friend like anyone would do and he holds no ill will towards them, purely only towards Rapid and I think that's something we should learn from rather than fighting each other. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16695 Posts
On January 16 2024 05:20 GeckoXp wrote: This entire discussion is a disgrace to everyone, all it does is giving Rapid more attention than he deserves. The cascade of events were Rapid's decision and his alone, so add him to the shit list and move on, there's nothing to gain for anyone. The energy and production value of this video would be better spent on nonsense like a podcast about an interview series with Artosis, eOn and Julia having to give their opinions on Protoss (working title "good talent toi have" or "khala me amazed", just a vague idea). Would add to a Patreon, just saying. Nah, the video is fine. i'm in the discussion and i don't think i'm a disgrace. i think i'm entitled to gather facts and ask questions during a discussion. Furthermore, I do not think I'm required to hand down a moral judgment in a short period of time. I've got other things to do. Also, shotgun justice fails precisely because it takes time to get to the bottom of issues. Genuine justice and authentic moral judgement takes time, thought, and reflection. Click bait headlines are easy though. On January 16 2024 05:20 GeckoXp wrote: This entire discussion is a disgrace to everyone, all it does is giving Rapid more attention than he deserves. nah, if you're going to take heavy shots at someone it can end up generating discussion. At this exact same time there is a tonne of discussion about Chris Jericho. Should no one in the pro wrestling community talk about it? He accused of being the Harvey Weinstein or Epstein or one of the those guys "of pro wrestling". There should be no response? Chris Jericho should just quit forever? Its all Chris Jericho's "fault" that there is even a discussion? ya , whatever. So, I do not think this discussion is a disgrace to everyone. Nor is the discussion around heavy, hard shots taken at any one, any where. On January 16 2024 05:20 GeckoXp wrote: This entire discussion is a disgrace to everyone if you're going to take heavy shots. Expect return fire. On January 15 2024 03:48 JimmiC wrote: Dude got fired for doing something that anyone would get fired for doing in any job. That people have to come up with weird justifications is freaking creepy. You can't talk about your dick, show it, or show pictures of it to people who do not want to see, or hear about it. This is 10x more with people who you work with or are clients. It is not hard to follow or understand. This is a nitpicky point. however, i think "any job" is over generalizing. the vast majority of jobs. yes. you probably would not get fired from an X-Rated movie production company. One of my customers owns an X-Rated movie production company and the stuff that goes on between employees is pretty out there. The stuff that gets forgiven compared to the stuff that gets you fired is ... different bordering on bizarre. On January 15 2024 14:23 Turbovolver wrote:All I want to do is try to shut down the toxic black-and-white narrative that comes up in cases like these about victims versus enablers. good points. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19231 Posts
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