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I casted with RAPiD at the BSL LAN

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Saiyan_SC
Profile Joined November 2023
2 Posts
January 12 2024 14:59 GMT
#1
I was thrust into the middle of this shitstorm and I want to give my perspective about it.

Don't comment unless you watch the video. I made this video with this website in mind. I spent hours reading through all the comments in each thread about RAPiD and the BSL. I wanted to lay everything out clearly so that people here who didn't fully understand the situation could finally understand exactly what happened.



dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
January 12 2024 15:35 GMT
#2
i like starcraft

having a 25 year anniversary LAN on a beach in Thailand was cool seemed fun

i heard even a progamer from korea called sharp went to the lan. and bonyth beat him. thats pretty cool. everyone clapped and cheered when he won. i think he used carriers?

zzzero is a really hardworking and dedicated guy.

do you like starcrafts too? i play terran, E rank, us-west. hope to see you on the internet sometime to play some starcraft strategy wargames.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8087 Posts
January 12 2024 16:47 GMT
#3
Thanks for making this video Saiyan. I think so many people that are "anti cancel culture" or whatever act like we are trying to crucify this guy. Just because we don't want to platform him and see him publicly cast and represent tournaments any more doesn't mean his life is over. Get over it. He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him.
Free Palestine
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16679 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 17:02:25
January 12 2024 17:02 GMT
#4
On January 13 2024 01:47 Ideas wrote:He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him.

what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur?
and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?"

User was warned for this post
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8087 Posts
January 12 2024 17:15 GMT
#5
On January 13 2024 02:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2024 01:47 Ideas wrote:He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him.

what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur?
and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?"


Ok don't watch the video cool
Free Palestine
Holint_Casazr
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany72 Posts
January 12 2024 17:33 GMT
#6
Thank you for your perspective and being outspoken/against this apparent despicable behaviour. I hope we do not have to deal with Rapid again [unless he actually speaks up] and I do not want people like that in the community at all. And thanks ZZZero for being awesome!
Esk4l4de
Profile Joined December 2020
Canada17 Posts
January 12 2024 18:24 GMT
#7
On January 13 2024 02:15 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2024 02:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 13 2024 01:47 Ideas wrote:He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him.

what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur?
and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?"


Ok don't watch the video cool


for some people its hard to read.

TY Saiyan for this video. As I told you on discord, its sad that Rapid have put such a black cloud over the head of the people participating in the Lan. being there and watching is 1 thing but casting after all he have done (or not talking for 3 years and hope people will forget) is really something to think about what to do in futures events with theses kind of people. thanks again for your great casting abilities and your transparency.

nOm co-leader, admin of CPL, BWCL LL, CSL, NWL, NSL
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1682 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 19:14:40
January 12 2024 19:14 GMT
#8
why is this being brought up again? why did you feel you needed to make a new video? let rapid fade into obscurity
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WolFix
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland38 Posts
January 12 2024 19:14 GMT
#9
Good material. Thanks
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 12 2024 20:44 GMT
#10
Another Rapid thread, this time even with video! Grabs popcorn... 3...2...1!
sunbeams are never made like me...
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16679 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-12 21:39:29
January 12 2024 21:27 GMT
#11
On January 13 2024 02:15 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2024 02:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 13 2024 01:47 Ideas wrote:He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him.

what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur?
and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?"


Ok don't watch the video cool

i watched it. i always triangulate evidence and proposed facts. i am not going to assume everything presented in a youtube video is true. furthermore, some of the allegations were precise and other allegations were vague and open ended.
Also, your remedy is rather vague and open ended. What does "the starcraft community would be better without him" mean exactly? He can't play ladder games? He can't attend live events? Who polices this?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4175 Posts
January 12 2024 21:35 GMT
#12
Ah shit, here we go again.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4985 Posts
January 12 2024 23:51 GMT
#13
Lol. I really admire the effort put into the research and video. Like others I hoped all the Rapid talk was finally fading out and we could move on, however it's not a bad thing that some people get to see this video. Thank you.
FBH #1!
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
January 13 2024 00:06 GMT
#14
not gonna watch it, let it fade
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3696 Posts
January 13 2024 01:04 GMT
#15
Thanks for making this and giving the behind-the-scenes details about what went on at the event. I think it should be clear to everyone that he is still following the same patterns of abuse: overstepping clear boundaries, lying to those around him to convince them he is a good person, and disappearing once it's clear people are becoming privy to his lies. We don't need to let him continue his cycle of abuse here.

On January 13 2024 06:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2024 02:15 Ideas wrote:
On January 13 2024 02:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 13 2024 01:47 Ideas wrote:He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him.

what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur?
and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?"


Ok don't watch the video cool

i watched it. i always triangulate evidence and proposed facts. i am not going to assume everything presented in a youtube video is true. furthermore, some of the allegations were precise and other allegations were vague and open ended.
Also, your remedy is rather vague and open ended. What does "the starcraft community would be better without him" mean exactly? He can't play ladder games? He can't attend live events? Who polices this?

We (the community) police this. Take your shit somewhere else Jimmy, this thread doesn't need your takes.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada760 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-13 04:17:01
January 13 2024 03:06 GMT
#16
I would agree with some of the others that say the rapid topic should be dropped for now but I think this post is an exception because Sayian had a first hand experience with everything that went on at the LAN. I can’t get my mind around how rapid can have the audacity to just show up seemingly unknown to the others and just participate like nothing happened. It really is insane behaviour to put others in this awkward situation where everyone just wanted to have a good time and not experience any drama and all of a sudden they now have this extremely awkward and delicate situation to deal with, especially Zero. Naturally everyone is either good hearted enough to let rapid participate or they just don’t want to cause issues/drama and end up including rapid initially. Probably because it’s the easiest and least abrasive way to deal with all of this, despite all the lingering issues with him. I find it extremely selfish of rapid to put zero in this situation. There’s no way he couldn’t have known this would be a problem and that there would be controversy around it. Also the awkward tension between him and everyone after the threads spawned must of been unbearable. Why would he put himself through this too? Either way I found your video interesting because it gave a detailed look of how everything went down at the LAN and how things were being addressed in real time. It’s just unfortunate that zero had to run an event and deal with all this unnecessary stress and drama, he didn’t deserve all of the bs that this spawned.
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 13 2024 04:01 GMT
#17
On January 13 2024 04:14 ShowTheLights wrote:
why is this being brought up again? why did you feel you needed to make a new video? let rapid fade into obscurity

Sure, I think RAPiD (text, photo, video) shouldn't appear on the Internet anymore with any reasons. He doesn't deserve to mention anymore until the last month of this year.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
January 13 2024 04:21 GMT
#18
Watched the video and it everything in it made sense. All I really wanna say is that YOU are a phenomenal caster. I've never seen you cast outside of this tournament and I think you're really good. I hope to see you cast more stuff.
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
January 13 2024 07:51 GMT
#19
Loved the ArtoSaiyan casts!!
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
January 13 2024 08:22 GMT
#20
On January 13 2024 06:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2024 02:15 Ideas wrote:
On January 13 2024 02:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 13 2024 01:47 Ideas wrote:He's a narcissist with serious sexual harassment allegations and completely ruined the BSL by showing up and trying to mount a comeback without telling the organizers about it. The StarCraft community will be better without him.

what are the allegations exactly? when did these alleged acts occur?
and to quote the great Bill James: "what is the evidence and what does it mean?"


Ok don't watch the video cool

i watched it. i always triangulate evidence and proposed facts. i am not going to assume everything presented in a youtube video is true. furthermore, some of the allegations were precise and other allegations were vague and open ended.
Also, your remedy is rather vague and open ended. What does "the starcraft community would be better without him" mean exactly? He can't play ladder games? He can't attend live events? Who polices this?


He is so newb that it's obvious he has never played any ladder. Why do you insist on defending a vile person who damages the organizations that put faith in his goodwill? Are you his gf? I'm asking you again.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
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