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vg162
Profile Joined January 2020
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-15 06:33:43
December 13 2023 16:23 GMT
#181
First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly

come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh

User was warned for this post.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1050 Posts
December 13 2023 16:42 GMT
#182
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote:
First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly

come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh



Hi Mr. 4 posts. A pillar of the community, yeah right. That pillar was gone and crumbled and glued back together earlier this month. We were fine without him and we don't need him. Do some reading, seriously
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-15 06:34:01
December 13 2023 16:54 GMT
#183
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote:
First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly

come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh


If you're wondering why people keep getting nuked in threads this is probably the reason.

https://tl.net/forum/tl-community/17883-tlnet-ten-commandments

Take a peek at rule 3 and read it very carefully before you continue your posts. This should be posted somewhere easily seen on the website but I needed to search and give myself the refresher.
Flash should fear Sacsri
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5523 Posts
December 13 2023 17:05 GMT
#184
On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote:
On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience

Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers.


Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland

And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher.

I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal.

ShadPro
Profile Joined March 2008
Poland28 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 17:58:17
December 13 2023 17:48 GMT
#185
On December 13 2023 10:29 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2023 18:27 ShadPro wrote:
On December 12 2023 06:50 ZakRoM wrote:
Saying all westerners are weirdos is like saying all Polish are like Julia, honestly I would think the second is worst lol, but we know none of the both are true. Regarding Rapid there's plenty of evidence, from LoL and from BW, that he did creppy and wrong things, so why do people keep thinking he's been blame for nothing?





Where is it? The OP only has witness testimony of no credibility whatsoever, that could be interpreted as inappropriate or not.

No credibility... because you say so?


Actually, forget it. Hope you feel the crusade is successful
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
December 13 2023 18:36 GMT
#186
On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote:
On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote:
On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience

Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers.


Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland

And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher.

I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal.


Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there?
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5523 Posts
December 13 2023 19:09 GMT
#187
On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote:
On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote:
On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote:
On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience

Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers.


Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland

And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher.

I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal.


Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there?

It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc.

Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol.
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 19:13:18
December 13 2023 19:12 GMT
#188
i would really urge caution in trusting machine translation in situations like this where context and specific meaning is very important. it tends to not be very good, especially when one language is outside the romance or germanic language families. and even if it translates word for word meaning correctly, you lose sentiment and cultural meaning. many languages have extreme sayings or idioms that should not be taken literally. a specific sentence like that should not be trusted to be accurate unless you have a native polish reader telling you so.

edit: (to clarify, it's definitely not useless. just you can't quote a sentence and say "they said this sentence")
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
December 13 2023 19:14 GMT
#189
On December 14 2023 04:09 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote:
On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote:
On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote:
On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience

Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers.


Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland

And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher.

I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal.


Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there?

It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc.

Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol.

Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42374 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 19:35:48
December 13 2023 19:35 GMT
#190
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote:
First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly

come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh


He’s not a pillar of the community. He’s not even a bad member of the community, he’s not a member of the community at all. He went radio silent and ghosted the community for 3 years.
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
December 13 2023 20:19 GMT
#191
On December 14 2023 02:48 ShadPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 10:29 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 12 2023 18:27 ShadPro wrote:
On December 12 2023 06:50 ZakRoM wrote:
Saying all westerners are weirdos is like saying all Polish are like Julia, honestly I would think the second is worst lol, but we know none of the both are true. Regarding Rapid there's plenty of evidence, from LoL and from BW, that he did creppy and wrong things, so why do people keep thinking he's been blame for nothing?





Where is it? The OP only has witness testimony of no credibility whatsoever, that could be interpreted as inappropriate or not.

No credibility... because you say so?


Actually, forget it. Hope you feel the crusade is successful

What crusade? We are asking a simple explanation on why it's ok to allow someone without integrity to be apart of our scene. We don't want the mental gymnastics of justifying why this behavior is ok because it wasn't proven. A simple "no I didn't send my dick pictures to women", or "yes I did, and I see that it is the wrong thing to do and I'll try to do better."

What we didn't want was a person who didn't say anything and hoped we would forget the whole situation and just forgive him. He hurt BSL, he hurt ZZZero, and he hurt women. He didn't physically touch them but he did make them fear for their saftey.
Flash should fear Sacsri
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 20:23:14
December 13 2023 20:20 GMT
#192
On December 14 2023 04:35 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote:
First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly

come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh


He’s not a pillar of the community. He’s not even a bad member of the community, he’s not a member of the community at all. He went radio silent and ghosted the community for 3 years.


And that’s because many reputable known community members called out his sexual harassment.

Just because those who brought a spotlight to this behavior aren’t known here, doesn’t mean they’re not reputable. I think over 10+ women came out about Reid with 0 reason to lie or make this up. He’s not a huge community figure, (men always think women are trying to tear down [which is also generally a bulls**t response].).He’s a part time brood war commentator with 0 prospects. There was nothing to gain bringing this up.

Reid is a bad person. He should not be in the scene.

And hearing so much defense reminds me why I also left the scene.
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Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 20:31:01
December 13 2023 20:30 GMT
#193
On December 14 2023 04:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently.

I'm afraid maybenexttime is not accurate in his statements. Most of that thread is just commenting on results, rest is discussing this topic but I don't see any incel like comments.

Yes there's some local trolling folklore in netwars community, but if you stay away from football thread and few others it's filled with adults with families, passionate about gaming. I don't want to continue off topic here but I'll respond to DMs if needed.
Please be patient.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5523 Posts
December 13 2023 20:46 GMT
#194
On December 14 2023 05:30 Chaosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 04:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently.

I'm afraid maybenexttime is not accurate in his statements. Most of that thread is just commenting on results, rest is discussing this topic but I don't see any incel like comments.

Yes there's some local trolling folklore in netwars community, but if you stay away from football thread and few others it's filled with adults with families, passionate about gaming. I don't want to continue off topic here but I'll respond to DMs if needed.

Roughly half of the comments since yesterday are about the Rapid drama. That's a lot, considering it's a live report thread. And FlaShFTW can easily translate the comments in Polish to get the general sentiment. So how exactly am I inaccurate?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
December 13 2023 21:00 GMT
#195
On December 14 2023 05:46 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 05:30 Chaosu wrote:
On December 14 2023 04:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently.

I'm afraid maybenexttime is not accurate in his statements. Most of that thread is just commenting on results, rest is discussing this topic but I don't see any incel like comments.

Yes there's some local trolling folklore in netwars community, but if you stay away from football thread and few others it's filled with adults with families, passionate about gaming. I don't want to continue off topic here but I'll respond to DMs if needed.

Roughly half of the comments since yesterday are about the Rapid drama. That's a lot, considering it's a live report thread. And FlaShFTW can easily translate the comments in Polish to get the general sentiment. So how exactly am I inaccurate?

Pretty much how I feel. Even if google translate isnt the most accurate, even if the comments taken as a whole are representative of the views of NW, it speaks volumes for how that forum chooses to conduct itself. The fact that they also are practically brigading into the two Rapid-related threads to defend him so vigorously is also another testament to what goes on in that forum. I don't see any Teamliquid members going there to argue.
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Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 21:07:46
December 13 2023 21:07 GMT
#196
@maybenexttime Your reply is acknowledged, but
On December 14 2023 05:30 Chaosu wrote: I don't want to continue off topic here

Please be patient.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24667 Posts
December 13 2023 21:13 GMT
#197
On December 14 2023 04:09 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote:
On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote:
On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote:
On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience

Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers.


Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland

And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher.

I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal.


Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there?

It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc.

Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol.

Certainly not been my experience of Poles over here, or many TL regulars from there who post more thoughtfully in a second tongue than I do in my own.

Methinks it’s something of a jumping on anything that resembles ‘cancel culture’ and the kind of adjacency to that, more than anything representative. And people are always more energised if they have an axe to grind, I mean are people as liable to bother registering for a forum just to go ‘hey I broadly agree’?

Hey as my post count indicates, I practically live here. That there’s such a disconnect in opinion between regulars whose names I instantly recognise, sometimes just reading a post without even checking the nick, and low post number lurkers/new accs kinda indicates some redirection from elsewhere specifically to argue on this topic.

Of course there are cultural differences on these kind of topics. For those familiar with football (soccer *shudders*) there was a pretty clear divide between British/European fans, and those from further afield on whether Manchester United should keep or sack Mason Grewnwood.

But I don’t really think there’s some massive disconnect between where I am and Poland on the topic more broadly, and there’s plenty of the same victim blaming and ‘skepticism’ from Brits and Irish too. So being pious about the moral superiority of one’s nation is daft to begin with.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5523 Posts
December 13 2023 21:48 GMT
#198
On December 14 2023 06:13 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 04:09 maybenexttime wrote:
On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote:
On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote:
On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote:
On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience

Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers.


Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland

And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher.

I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal.


Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there?

It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc.

Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol.

Certainly not been my experience of Poles over here, or many TL regulars from there who post more thoughtfully in a second tongue than I do in my own.

Methinks it’s something of a jumping on anything that resembles ‘cancel culture’ and the kind of adjacency to that, more than anything representative. And people are always more energised if they have an axe to grind, I mean are people as liable to bother registering for a forum just to go ‘hey I broadly agree’?

Hey as my post count indicates, I practically live here. That there’s such a disconnect in opinion between regulars whose names I instantly recognise, sometimes just reading a post without even checking the nick, and low post number lurkers/new accs kinda indicates some redirection from elsewhere specifically to argue on this topic.

Of course there are cultural differences on these kind of topics. For those familiar with football (soccer *shudders*) there was a pretty clear divide between British/European fans, and those from further afield on whether Manchester United should keep or sack Mason Grewnwood.

But I don’t really think there’s some massive disconnect between where I am and Poland on the topic more broadly, and there’s plenty of the same victim blaming and ‘skepticism’ from Brits and Irish too. So being pious about the moral superiority of one’s nation is daft to begin with.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, those people are from NetWars, a Polish BW forum with a long history. What they're posting here is rather mild compared to what they post there.
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada118 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-13 22:50:14
December 13 2023 22:45 GMT
#199
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote:
First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly

come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh



This user should be temp banned for a very obvious troll post


I'm really surprised people reached out to Rapid to cast in the first place; his knowledge is even worse than Tasteless
I still remember when he said Snow or Stork's (forgot who) carrier micro was second only to Bisu (who literally never goes carriers)
I think there would be hundreds of people who would be better at casting than Rapid (hell, you could probably pick any random A rank player and they would be better), and added to his questionable history (true or not), I'm so surprised BSL would even consider him in the first place (is it because he casted like 4 games in ASL before?)


It would be nice if Eonzerg, Nyoken, Razz and Voddy could cast all non-Tastosis events
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland548 Posts
December 14 2023 00:49 GMT
#200
On December 14 2023 07:45 ruhtraeel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote:
First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly

come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh



This user should be temp banned for a very obvious troll post


I'm really surprised people reached out to Rapid to cast in the first place; his knowledge is even worse than Tasteless
I still remember when he said Snow or Stork's (forgot who) carrier micro was second only to Bisu (who literally never goes carriers)
I think there would be hundreds of people who would be better at casting than Rapid (hell, you could probably pick any random A rank player and they would be better), and added to his questionable history (true or not), I'm so surprised BSL would even consider him in the first place (is it because he casted like 4 games in ASL before?)


It would be nice if Eonzerg, Nyoken, Razz and Voddy could cast all non-Tastosis events


Bisu goes carriers basically every PvT nowadays...............
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