come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh
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vg162
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come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh User was warned for this post. | ||
Mutaller
United States1031 Posts
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote: First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh Hi Mr. 4 posts. A pillar of the community, yeah right. That pillar was gone and crumbled and glued back together earlier this month. We were fine without him and we don't need him. Do some reading, seriously | ||
art_of_turtle
United States1172 Posts
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote: First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh If you're wondering why people keep getting nuked in threads this is probably the reason. https://tl.net/forum/tl-community/17883-tlnet-ten-commandments Take a peek at rule 3 and read it very carefully before you continue your posts. This should be posted somewhere easily seen on the website but I needed to search and give myself the refresher. | ||
maybenexttime
Poland5361 Posts
On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote: On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers. Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher. I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal. | ||
ShadPro
Poland28 Posts
On December 13 2023 10:29 FlaShFTW wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2023 18:27 ShadPro wrote: On December 12 2023 06:50 ZakRoM wrote: Saying all westerners are weirdos is like saying all Polish are like Julia, honestly I would think the second is worst lol, but we know none of the both are true. Regarding Rapid there's plenty of evidence, from LoL and from BW, that he did creppy and wrong things, so why do people keep thinking he's been blame for nothing? Where is it? The OP only has witness testimony of no credibility whatsoever, that could be interpreted as inappropriate or not. No credibility... because you say so? Actually, forget it. Hope you feel the crusade is successful | ||
FlaShFTW
United States9936 Posts
On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote: On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote: On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers. Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher. I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal. Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there? | ||
maybenexttime
Poland5361 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote: On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote: On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote: On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers. Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher. I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal. Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there? It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc. Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol. | ||
quaristice
108 Posts
edit: (to clarify, it's definitely not useless. just you can't quote a sentence and say "they said this sentence") | ||
FlaShFTW
United States9936 Posts
On December 14 2023 04:09 maybenexttime wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote: On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote: On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote: On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote: On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers. Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher. I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal. Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there? It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc. Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol. Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently. | ||
KwarK
United States41638 Posts
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote: First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh He’s not a pillar of the community. He’s not even a bad member of the community, he’s not a member of the community at all. He went radio silent and ghosted the community for 3 years. | ||
art_of_turtle
United States1172 Posts
On December 14 2023 02:48 ShadPro wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2023 10:29 FlaShFTW wrote: On December 12 2023 18:27 ShadPro wrote: On December 12 2023 06:50 ZakRoM wrote: Saying all westerners are weirdos is like saying all Polish are like Julia, honestly I would think the second is worst lol, but we know none of the both are true. Regarding Rapid there's plenty of evidence, from LoL and from BW, that he did creppy and wrong things, so why do people keep thinking he's been blame for nothing? Where is it? The OP only has witness testimony of no credibility whatsoever, that could be interpreted as inappropriate or not. No credibility... because you say so? Actually, forget it. Hope you feel the crusade is successful What crusade? We are asking a simple explanation on why it's ok to allow someone without integrity to be apart of our scene. We don't want the mental gymnastics of justifying why this behavior is ok because it wasn't proven. A simple "no I didn't send my dick pictures to women", or "yes I did, and I see that it is the wrong thing to do and I'll try to do better." What we didn't want was a person who didn't say anything and hoped we would forget the whole situation and just forgive him. He hurt BSL, he hurt ZZZero, and he hurt women. He didn't physically touch them but he did make them fear for their saftey. | ||
SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
On December 14 2023 04:35 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote: First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh He’s not a pillar of the community. He’s not even a bad member of the community, he’s not a member of the community at all. He went radio silent and ghosted the community for 3 years. And that’s because many reputable known community members called out his sexual harassment. Just because those who brought a spotlight to this behavior aren’t known here, doesn’t mean they’re not reputable. I think over 10+ women came out about Reid with 0 reason to lie or make this up. He’s not a huge community figure, (men always think women are trying to tear down [which is also generally a bulls**t response].).He’s a part time brood war commentator with 0 prospects. There was nothing to gain bringing this up. Reid is a bad person. He should not be in the scene. And hearing so much defense reminds me why I also left the scene. | ||
Chaosu
Poland404 Posts
On December 14 2023 04:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently. I'm afraid maybenexttime is not accurate in his statements. Most of that thread is just commenting on results, rest is discussing this topic but I don't see any incel like comments. Yes there's some local trolling folklore in netwars community, but if you stay away from football thread and few others it's filled with adults with families, passionate about gaming. I don't want to continue off topic here but I'll respond to DMs if needed. | ||
maybenexttime
Poland5361 Posts
On December 14 2023 05:30 Chaosu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 04:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently. I'm afraid maybenexttime is not accurate in his statements. Most of that thread is just commenting on results, rest is discussing this topic but I don't see any incel like comments. Yes there's some local trolling folklore in netwars community, but if you stay away from football thread and few others it's filled with adults with families, passionate about gaming. I don't want to continue off topic here but I'll respond to DMs if needed. Roughly half of the comments since yesterday are about the Rapid drama. That's a lot, considering it's a live report thread. And FlaShFTW can easily translate the comments in Polish to get the general sentiment. So how exactly am I inaccurate? | ||
FlaShFTW
United States9936 Posts
On December 14 2023 05:46 maybenexttime wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 05:30 Chaosu wrote: On December 14 2023 04:14 FlaShFTW wrote:Pretty sad to see the state of affairs over there. But if that's how it is over there, I'm glad they don't come over here too frequently. I'm afraid maybenexttime is not accurate in his statements. Most of that thread is just commenting on results, rest is discussing this topic but I don't see any incel like comments. Yes there's some local trolling folklore in netwars community, but if you stay away from football thread and few others it's filled with adults with families, passionate about gaming. I don't want to continue off topic here but I'll respond to DMs if needed. Roughly half of the comments since yesterday are about the Rapid drama. That's a lot, considering it's a live report thread. And FlaShFTW can easily translate the comments in Polish to get the general sentiment. So how exactly am I inaccurate? Pretty much how I feel. Even if google translate isnt the most accurate, even if the comments taken as a whole are representative of the views of NW, it speaks volumes for how that forum chooses to conduct itself. The fact that they also are practically brigading into the two Rapid-related threads to defend him so vigorously is also another testament to what goes on in that forum. I don't see any Teamliquid members going there to argue. | ||
Chaosu
Poland404 Posts
On December 14 2023 05:30 Chaosu wrote: I don't want to continue off topic here | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23248 Posts
On December 14 2023 04:09 maybenexttime wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote: On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote: On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote: On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote: On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers. Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher. I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal. Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there? It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc. Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol. Certainly not been my experience of Poles over here, or many TL regulars from there who post more thoughtfully in a second tongue than I do in my own. Methinks it’s something of a jumping on anything that resembles ‘cancel culture’ and the kind of adjacency to that, more than anything representative. And people are always more energised if they have an axe to grind, I mean are people as liable to bother registering for a forum just to go ‘hey I broadly agree’? Hey as my post count indicates, I practically live here. That there’s such a disconnect in opinion between regulars whose names I instantly recognise, sometimes just reading a post without even checking the nick, and low post number lurkers/new accs kinda indicates some redirection from elsewhere specifically to argue on this topic. Of course there are cultural differences on these kind of topics. For those familiar with football (soccer *shudders*) there was a pretty clear divide between British/European fans, and those from further afield on whether Manchester United should keep or sack Mason Grewnwood. But I don’t really think there’s some massive disconnect between where I am and Poland on the topic more broadly, and there’s plenty of the same victim blaming and ‘skepticism’ from Brits and Irish too. So being pious about the moral superiority of one’s nation is daft to begin with. | ||
maybenexttime
Poland5361 Posts
On December 14 2023 06:13 WombaT wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 04:09 maybenexttime wrote: On December 14 2023 03:36 FlaShFTW wrote: On December 14 2023 02:05 maybenexttime wrote: On December 13 2023 23:55 NakaBW wrote: On December 13 2023 19:05 Chaosu wrote: On December 13 2023 15:18 NakaBW wrote:majority of your audience Bold statement that few commenting here are majority of viewers. Not really, this forum may house a small number of the community but plenty of discussion about it in discord and other places. The world is a lot larger than Russia and Poland And it doesn't change the fact that if your shilling for money to pay for your tournament you should probably try to not upset a portion of your player base even if it's only 20% but I would wager the number is much higher. I'm honestly baffled by the number of Polish people coming in support of Rapid. I'm guessing most of them might be brigading from NetWars. I hope this is more representative of their community, which judging from the thread on this topic (https://netwars.pl/temat/181816) is an incel cesspit, than our society at large. Also funny how WolFix considers sending dick pics to minors normal. Pretty insane the comments I'm reading on there. Rus_Brain clearly doubling down on his commitment to Rapid. Also some insane lines like "I personally don't give two fucks if someone killed another person as long as that person will not hurt me." The fuck are the standards over there? It's what 25 years of being a toxic echo chamber gets you. It was rather toxic when I first got into BW some 15 years ago. Seems like it's been sliding downward the whole time. It's not just misogynists, the forum is full of far-right supporters, anti-vaxxers, people supporting Russia, etc. Honestly, it's surprising that there are some decent people left there, lol. Certainly not been my experience of Poles over here, or many TL regulars from there who post more thoughtfully in a second tongue than I do in my own. Methinks it’s something of a jumping on anything that resembles ‘cancel culture’ and the kind of adjacency to that, more than anything representative. And people are always more energised if they have an axe to grind, I mean are people as liable to bother registering for a forum just to go ‘hey I broadly agree’? Hey as my post count indicates, I practically live here. That there’s such a disconnect in opinion between regulars whose names I instantly recognise, sometimes just reading a post without even checking the nick, and low post number lurkers/new accs kinda indicates some redirection from elsewhere specifically to argue on this topic. Of course there are cultural differences on these kind of topics. For those familiar with football (soccer *shudders*) there was a pretty clear divide between British/European fans, and those from further afield on whether Manchester United should keep or sack Mason Grewnwood. But I don’t really think there’s some massive disconnect between where I am and Poland on the topic more broadly, and there’s plenty of the same victim blaming and ‘skepticism’ from Brits and Irish too. So being pious about the moral superiority of one’s nation is daft to begin with. As I mentioned in my earlier post, those people are from NetWars, a Polish BW forum with a long history. What they're posting here is rather mild compared to what they post there. | ||
ruhtraeel
Canada98 Posts
On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote: First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh This user should be temp banned for a very obvious troll post I'm really surprised people reached out to Rapid to cast in the first place; his knowledge is even worse than Tasteless I still remember when he said Snow or Stork's (forgot who) carrier micro was second only to Bisu (who literally never goes carriers) I think there would be hundreds of people who would be better at casting than Rapid (hell, you could probably pick any random A rank player and they would be better), and added to his questionable history (true or not), I'm so surprised BSL would even consider him in the first place (is it because he casted like 4 games in ASL before?) It would be nice if Eonzerg, Nyoken, Razz and Voddy could cast all non-Tastosis events | ||
Bonyth
Poland511 Posts
On December 14 2023 07:45 ruhtraeel wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2023 01:23 vg162 wrote: First of all, I don't know what RaPiD is guilty of besides being a great guy and a pillar of the community but secondly come on man. seriously guys? come on. really? you're leaving this thread up? for real? yeeeeesh This user should be temp banned for a very obvious troll post I'm really surprised people reached out to Rapid to cast in the first place; his knowledge is even worse than Tasteless I still remember when he said Snow or Stork's (forgot who) carrier micro was second only to Bisu (who literally never goes carriers) I think there would be hundreds of people who would be better at casting than Rapid (hell, you could probably pick any random A rank player and they would be better), and added to his questionable history (true or not), I'm so surprised BSL would even consider him in the first place (is it because he casted like 4 games in ASL before?) It would be nice if Eonzerg, Nyoken, Razz and Voddy could cast all non-Tastosis events Bisu goes carriers basically every PvT nowadays............... | ||
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