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China sc:re server will stop on 23rd.Jan.2023 - Page 2

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Hitokiri3
Profile Joined October 2018
18 Posts
November 18 2022 20:50 GMT
#21
about time the game fell into the hands of the People
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
November 18 2022 21:15 GMT
#22
On November 18 2022 19:51 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2022 19:56 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On November 17 2022 19:51 outscar wrote:
Does this mean SC2 will also shutdown? Haven't seen a topic yet but think this is huge and will lower playerbase on both games even more. 2023 is already bad year ...


Yes it would also involve StarCraft 2, and yes it could severely impact operating the WTL going forward.

But the real potential killer in this for Blizzard is Overwatch League. Netease owns Shanghai Dragons, and many OWL players & fans are chinese. If this shutdown is a prolonged one, it could damage the financial stability of all Blizzard eSports within China and elsewhere.

Won't be an issue for WTL for now. All Chinese pros play on Korean ladder and all the matches are played on non Chinese servers.


was WTL assisted/funded by netease at all? i feel like that'd be the main issue.

my main concern is the wc3 scene; although with players slowly shifting from netease to war3 champions + the community picking up the slack with the absence of WGL over the past year has eased these concerns slightly.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 19 2022 01:08 GMT
#23
I wonder if they can play through VPN? But if it's account issue if it's Chinese Blizz might nuke it so only option will be to change account region via ticket.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
November 19 2022 03:45 GMT
#24
On November 18 2022 11:09 s_k_911 wrote:
3000-5000 men login in china sc:re server everyday.


Shield Battery is your next best bet and it's not a bad one at all, actually better than battle.net.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1001 Posts
November 19 2022 04:23 GMT
#25
On November 19 2022 10:08 outscar wrote:
I wonder if they can play through VPN? But if it's account issue if it's Chinese Blizz might nuke it so only option will be to change account region via ticket.


You have to buy the game again, AFAIK
Calvinbobo
Profile Joined June 2003
China90 Posts
November 20 2022 02:37 GMT
#26
On November 19 2022 01:34 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 00:29 Calvinbobo wrote:
On November 18 2022 21:12 iopq wrote:
On November 18 2022 04:23 lestye wrote:
https://www.eurogamer.net/netease-boss-blames-damage-done-by-a-jerk-for-activision-shutdown-of-world-of-warcraft-overwatch-in-china

Freaking Bobby Kotick screws over everyone.


It's China that makes Blizzard have a licensing agreement with a Chinese company

it's not being shut down anywhere else, it's primarily a Chinese government program


Blizzard ALREADY has the license.

It is only the agreement between Netease and Blizzard that is expiring. Blizzard is asking for much more, including user data, which is sensitive in every country worldwide.


So what? It's a Chinese only requirement that you need to have an agreement with a Chinese company. Blizzard can do whatever they want in most countries in the world. China is the one that's been tightening down on games, including limiting students' online play time to one hour a week. 8PM-9PM on Friday, lol

Also, Steam doesn't connect from China anymore. But let's immediately blame Blizzard without proof


Well, the proof is everywhere, if you read the news...
Check Bloomberg (if you can think of any other source that is more trustworthy to you, check them instead). Blizzard asked for a higher cut, a prepayment of two years, and data from millions of Chinese users.
And what is wrong with China asking Blizzard to get a license? Maybe Blizzard can "do what they want in most countries", but that certainly doesn't include China. If Blizzard wants to keep making money from China, then play by the rules and show some respect to the counterparty and long-term partner, Netease.
Uncletoss/Nkubobo/Calvinbobo/Xiao[tQ]
Gesotsas
Profile Joined November 2022
1 Post
November 20 2022 10:06 GMT
#27
--- Nuked ---
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-20 15:34:50
November 20 2022 15:33 GMT
#28
On November 19 2022 06:15 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2022 19:51 digmouse wrote:
On November 17 2022 19:56 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On November 17 2022 19:51 outscar wrote:
Does this mean SC2 will also shutdown? Haven't seen a topic yet but think this is huge and will lower playerbase on both games even more. 2023 is already bad year ...


Yes it would also involve StarCraft 2, and yes it could severely impact operating the WTL going forward.

But the real potential killer in this for Blizzard is Overwatch League. Netease owns Shanghai Dragons, and many OWL players & fans are chinese. If this shutdown is a prolonged one, it could damage the financial stability of all Blizzard eSports within China and elsewhere.

Won't be an issue for WTL for now. All Chinese pros play on Korean ladder and all the matches are played on non Chinese servers.


was WTL assisted/funded by netease at all? i feel like that'd be the main issue.

my main concern is the wc3 scene; although with players slowly shifting from netease to war3 champions + the community picking up the slack with the absence of WGL over the past year has eased these concerns slightly.

Almost entirely self funded by Scboy alongside sponsors.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1001 Posts
November 20 2022 19:59 GMT
#29
On November 20 2022 11:37 Calvinbobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2022 01:34 iopq wrote:
On November 19 2022 00:29 Calvinbobo wrote:
On November 18 2022 21:12 iopq wrote:
On November 18 2022 04:23 lestye wrote:
https://www.eurogamer.net/netease-boss-blames-damage-done-by-a-jerk-for-activision-shutdown-of-world-of-warcraft-overwatch-in-china

Freaking Bobby Kotick screws over everyone.


It's China that makes Blizzard have a licensing agreement with a Chinese company

it's not being shut down anywhere else, it's primarily a Chinese government program


Blizzard ALREADY has the license.

It is only the agreement between Netease and Blizzard that is expiring. Blizzard is asking for much more, including user data, which is sensitive in every country worldwide.


So what? It's a Chinese only requirement that you need to have an agreement with a Chinese company. Blizzard can do whatever they want in most countries in the world. China is the one that's been tightening down on games, including limiting students' online play time to one hour a week. 8PM-9PM on Friday, lol

Also, Steam doesn't connect from China anymore. But let's immediately blame Blizzard without proof


Well, the proof is everywhere, if you read the news...
Check Bloomberg (if you can think of any other source that is more trustworthy to you, check them instead). Blizzard asked for a higher cut, a prepayment of two years, and data from millions of Chinese users.
And what is wrong with China asking Blizzard to get a license? Maybe Blizzard can "do what they want in most countries", but that certainly doesn't include China. If Blizzard wants to keep making money from China, then play by the rules and show some respect to the counterparty and long-term partner, Netease.


In other countries Blizzard gets 100% for the products they make, since it's their games. Why should some Chinese company get a big cut for doing just user registrations and running a server?

I've signed up in China, it's nothing different, it just checked the government id. That company does nothing to deserve a cut, considering Blizzard does this feature in Korea themselves to satisfy local laws for underage people
s_k_911
Profile Joined August 2008
China362 Posts
November 23 2022 01:24 GMT
#30
On November 21 2022 04:59 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2022 11:37 Calvinbobo wrote:
On November 19 2022 01:34 iopq wrote:
On November 19 2022 00:29 Calvinbobo wrote:
On November 18 2022 21:12 iopq wrote:
On November 18 2022 04:23 lestye wrote:
https://www.eurogamer.net/netease-boss-blames-damage-done-by-a-jerk-for-activision-shutdown-of-world-of-warcraft-overwatch-in-china

Freaking Bobby Kotick screws over everyone.


It's China that makes Blizzard have a licensing agreement with a Chinese company

it's not being shut down anywhere else, it's primarily a Chinese government program


Blizzard ALREADY has the license.

It is only the agreement between Netease and Blizzard that is expiring. Blizzard is asking for much more, including user data, which is sensitive in every country worldwide.


So what? It's a Chinese only requirement that you need to have an agreement with a Chinese company. Blizzard can do whatever they want in most countries in the world. China is the one that's been tightening down on games, including limiting students' online play time to one hour a week. 8PM-9PM on Friday, lol

Also, Steam doesn't connect from China anymore. But let's immediately blame Blizzard without proof


Well, the proof is everywhere, if you read the news...
Check Bloomberg (if you can think of any other source that is more trustworthy to you, check them instead). Blizzard asked for a higher cut, a prepayment of two years, and data from millions of Chinese users.
And what is wrong with China asking Blizzard to get a license? Maybe Blizzard can "do what they want in most countries", but that certainly doesn't include China. If Blizzard wants to keep making money from China, then play by the rules and show some respect to the counterparty and long-term partner, Netease.


In other countries Blizzard gets 100% for the products they make, since it's their games. Why should some Chinese company get a big cut for doing just user registrations and running a server?

I've signed up in China, it's nothing different, it just checked the government id. That company does nothing to deserve a cut, considering Blizzard does this feature in Korea themselves to satisfy local laws for underage people


1. Blizzard choose to co-operate with netease at the very beginning ,but not to run a china company of his own.
2. I know lots of china players buy both china-server-sc-re and korea-server-sc-re. Maybe the players not the big companies are the victims.
apm200 terran play for fun
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-24 08:17:47
November 24 2022 08:17 GMT
#31
On November 21 2022 04:59 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2022 11:37 Calvinbobo wrote:
On November 19 2022 01:34 iopq wrote:
On November 19 2022 00:29 Calvinbobo wrote:
On November 18 2022 21:12 iopq wrote:
On November 18 2022 04:23 lestye wrote:
https://www.eurogamer.net/netease-boss-blames-damage-done-by-a-jerk-for-activision-shutdown-of-world-of-warcraft-overwatch-in-china

Freaking Bobby Kotick screws over everyone.


It's China that makes Blizzard have a licensing agreement with a Chinese company

it's not being shut down anywhere else, it's primarily a Chinese government program


Blizzard ALREADY has the license.

It is only the agreement between Netease and Blizzard that is expiring. Blizzard is asking for much more, including user data, which is sensitive in every country worldwide.


So what? It's a Chinese only requirement that you need to have an agreement with a Chinese company. Blizzard can do whatever they want in most countries in the world. China is the one that's been tightening down on games, including limiting students' online play time to one hour a week. 8PM-9PM on Friday, lol

Also, Steam doesn't connect from China anymore. But let's immediately blame Blizzard without proof


Well, the proof is everywhere, if you read the news...
Check Bloomberg (if you can think of any other source that is more trustworthy to you, check them instead). Blizzard asked for a higher cut, a prepayment of two years, and data from millions of Chinese users.
And what is wrong with China asking Blizzard to get a license? Maybe Blizzard can "do what they want in most countries", but that certainly doesn't include China. If Blizzard wants to keep making money from China, then play by the rules and show some respect to the counterparty and long-term partner, Netease.


In other countries Blizzard gets 100% for the products they make, since it's their games. Why should some Chinese company get a big cut for doing just user registrations and running a server?

I've signed up in China, it's nothing different, it just checked the government id. That company does nothing to deserve a cut, considering Blizzard does this feature in Korea themselves to satisfy local laws for underage people

Chinese law does not allow foreign companies to operate online games solely on their own, requires a local partner.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
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