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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4256 Posts
March 24 2022 15:29 GMT
#21
I hope this guy gets the help he clearly needs.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3569 Posts
March 24 2022 17:08 GMT
#22
he actually @ every person individually in our case (BWCL server) as opposed to @everyone but got promptly banned (again...)

Kame what evidence do you need? I can confirm for BWCL, bag of builds and at least 3 more.

But yeah i agree it wasnt an "attack" in the traditional sense, just spam essentially
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10403 Posts
March 25 2022 03:31 GMT
#23
The best evidence that I've seen was uncovered on the (unaffected because he was pre-banned) SSCAIT Discord where someone went into Moataz' GitHub repo and saw that he had recently been developing/forking Discord bots. It's too much of a coincidence.

To all the people defending him, tolerating such bullshit in our community is not acceptable. This deranged fucker has done too much already and he deserves no sympathy whatsoever. He's a parasite that refuses to let go, while terrorizing communities with his bullshit. Fuck him. I won't waste my time detailing all of the shit he has done but I invite everyone to search TL and beyond and DYOR.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1777 Posts
March 25 2022 07:19 GMT
#24
Ok but I still haven't seen any evidence just talk... xD. I mean this is also a accusational post and op leaves readers with no conclusive info like ... Ok.
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MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-25 07:28:01
March 25 2022 07:26 GMT
#25
On March 25 2022 12:31 Jealous wrote:
To all the people defending him, tolerating such bullshit in our community is not acceptable.


Yet people in the community accept bullying and childish homophobic comments by popular people by laughing along and encouraging it..
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Headgehog
Profile Joined January 2022
10 Posts
March 25 2022 07:48 GMT
#26
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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3722 Posts
March 25 2022 10:14 GMT
#27
Given that Moataz has been sockpuppeting the Blizzard BW forums for months now, I'd reasonably guarantee the above post is also a Moataz sockpuppet (and further evidence that he's behind this).

We banned Moataz from the SB discord a few months back and did not get hit in this wave of spam. While that doesn't conclusively indicate that it's him, it's further evidence in that direction. Add onto that that he was recently banned from Reddit, and you can start to see that he's running out of options for places to spread his weird conspiracy theories and spam so, here we are.
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1805 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-25 10:33:14
March 25 2022 10:32 GMT
#28
On March 25 2022 16:48 Headgehog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2022 12:31 Jealous wrote:
The best evidence that I've seen was uncovered on the (unaffected because he was pre-banned) SSCAIT Discord where someone went into Moataz' GitHub repo and saw that he had recently been developing/forking Discord bots. It's too much of a coincidence.

To all the people defending him, tolerating such bullshit in our community is not acceptable. This deranged fucker has done too much already and he deserves no sympathy whatsoever. He's a parasite that refuses to let go, while terrorizing communities with his bullshit. Fuck him. I won't waste my time detailing all of the shit he has done but I invite everyone to search TL and beyond and DYOR.

What are you talking about, Hitler is back ?

FWIW the guy made three very useful projects to the community, and been treated very unfairly from what I saw, I didn't see any project underrated to hell like that while its awesome like that before, I didn't see anyone using his AI to analyze replays or for gameplay which is a shame and inexplicable to me, something just not right from the community against him, the closest word is jealousy, just go see the unreasonable amounts of downvotes to a topic like that, and almost every post/comment he made in Reddit, and you'll see something very strange out there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/si24gf/starcraft1_coachai_the_new_era_of_macro_has_begun/
https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/si07k2/starcraft1_coachai_the_new_era_of_macro_has_begun/

I think (if) Moataz is behind this attack somehow, then maybe trying to reach a middle ground is better for everyone. Also Moataz has a Discord server too, maybe we can give him a visit and see if there is a Ghost there or not ?


Right, he has been treated unfairly..

My first encounter ever with him was last December/this January when he joined our RCC (Red Clan Cup) Discord server that is solely used for our far and between tournaments. He joined and shortly after posted a self promoting post with links to his stuff which was promptly deleted. Now, the topic of the general channel was quite clearly: "Keep this channel RCC related. No spam/advertising.". There is a channel for promotions, but it's limited to stream advertisement for when you're live (description also tells that).
[image loading]
[image loading]
Today in that screenshot was January 3rd

This didn't deter him from posting it again, multiple times. Once more after that screenshot was taken in the replays channel. The last 2 times were under the disguise of trying to reach Dreamer (by pinging him at the end of it) and asking him to cast some matches or something. All still linking to his stuff. He was banned after that last (and 4th!) post.
[image loading]
The remains in that channel.

Nobody really joins that server usually outside of when we host a tournament. After Moataz joined in December and got banned on January 3rd, we got multiple accounts joining, starting January 4th. One even got marked by Discord as a likely spammer. Surprisingly that server was not spammed during the latest wave.

That same night he pinged me on the TDR (Nation Wars) Discord server.
[image loading]
Not allowing him to spam our server clearly makes me jealous and toxic (he's not the toxic one).
After replying that he spammed our server and continued after being told not to, he acted like none of that was true. After that he pinged Qikz, asking him if he wants to cast some of his stuff, since Qikz spoke favourable of Moataz's stuff before. Inlcuded was a link of a clip where Qikz said something positive/supporting of Moataz's stuff. Qikz swiftly replied, telling Moataz not to ping him.
Moataz was shortly after banned and all messages were removed from the TDR Discord.

During that same period (January 4th) he was also banned on the BWCL server.
[image loading]
I didn't witness what happened there.

He has previously spammed the Liquipedia server with mass pings because his project didn't get its own LP page (as I was told by a LP admin/contributor).


And this is just my experience with him this year. Others have a way longer history and worse experience with him.

edit: and yes, the comment I replied to is most definitely a sockpuppet, as tec27 stated.
LML
Headgehog
Profile Joined January 2022
10 Posts
March 25 2022 11:24 GMT
#29
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
March 25 2022 14:01 GMT
#30
He has been posting on multiple accounts on Reddit /r/broodwar as well, pretty annoying and they won't ban him or haven't banned his latest accounts
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Airneanach
Profile Joined January 2021
United States73 Posts
March 25 2022 15:21 GMT
#31
For reference, this was a screenshot sent to me about 10 minutes after he started. He did it at a time where I (NA) and my mods (EU) were all asleep. Even other discords where people were awake and paying attention got up to 100+ pings at points.


[image loading]
Ask not what StarCraft can do for you, ask what you can do for StarCraft
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
March 25 2022 16:17 GMT
#32
i'd love to see that guy do a backflip off the empire state building. i'm so tired of waking up and seeing 500+ notifs on my discord
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
March 25 2022 17:06 GMT
#33
What’s up with this dude? Knew I recognised the name so went back through some old posts.

Seems to me he makes custom maps/tools that, if not the product of the second coming at least seemed to be reasonably well-received by people

But that’s not enough somehow? I mean what’s he actually want?

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3569 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-25 20:52:06
March 25 2022 20:46 GMT
#34
On March 25 2022 19:32 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2022 16:48 Headgehog wrote:
On March 25 2022 12:31 Jealous wrote:
The best evidence that I've seen was uncovered on the (unaffected because he was pre-banned) SSCAIT Discord where someone went into Moataz' GitHub repo and saw that he had recently been developing/forking Discord bots. It's too much of a coincidence.

To all the people defending him, tolerating such bullshit in our community is not acceptable. This deranged fucker has done too much already and he deserves no sympathy whatsoever. He's a parasite that refuses to let go, while terrorizing communities with his bullshit. Fuck him. I won't waste my time detailing all of the shit he has done but I invite everyone to search TL and beyond and DYOR.

What are you talking about, Hitler is back ?

FWIW the guy made three very useful projects to the community, and been treated very unfairly from what I saw, I didn't see any project underrated to hell like that while its awesome like that before, I didn't see anyone using his AI to analyze replays or for gameplay which is a shame and inexplicable to me, something just not right from the community against him, the closest word is jealousy, just go see the unreasonable amounts of downvotes to a topic like that, and almost every post/comment he made in Reddit, and you'll see something very strange out there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/si24gf/starcraft1_coachai_the_new_era_of_macro_has_begun/
https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/si07k2/starcraft1_coachai_the_new_era_of_macro_has_begun/

I think (if) Moataz is behind this attack somehow, then maybe trying to reach a middle ground is better for everyone. Also Moataz has a Discord server too, maybe we can give him a visit and see if there is a Ghost there or not ?


Right, he has been treated unfairly..

My first encounter ever with him was last December/this January when he joined our RCC (Red Clan Cup) Discord server that is solely used for our far and between tournaments. He joined and shortly after posted a self promoting post with links to his stuff which was promptly deleted. Now, the topic of the general channel was quite clearly: "Keep this channel RCC related. No spam/advertising.". There is a channel for promotions, but it's limited to stream advertisement for when you're live (description also tells that).
[image loading]
[image loading]
Today in that screenshot was January 3rd

This didn't deter him from posting it again, multiple times. Once more after that screenshot was taken in the replays channel. The last 2 times were under the disguise of trying to reach Dreamer (by pinging him at the end of it) and asking him to cast some matches or something. All still linking to his stuff. He was banned after that last (and 4th!) post.
[image loading]
The remains in that channel.

Nobody really joins that server usually outside of when we host a tournament. After Moataz joined in December and got banned on January 3rd, we got multiple accounts joining, starting January 4th. One even got marked by Discord as a likely spammer. Surprisingly that server was not spammed during the latest wave.

That same night he pinged me on the TDR (Nation Wars) Discord server.
[image loading]
Not allowing him to spam our server clearly makes me jealous and toxic (he's not the toxic one).
After replying that he spammed our server and continued after being told not to, he acted like none of that was true. After that he pinged Qikz, asking him if he wants to cast some of his stuff, since Qikz spoke favourable of Moataz's stuff before. Inlcuded was a link of a clip where Qikz said something positive/supporting of Moataz's stuff. Qikz swiftly replied, telling Moataz not to ping him.
Moataz was shortly after banned and all messages were removed from the TDR Discord.

During that same period (January 4th) he was also banned on the BWCL server.
[image loading]
I didn't witness what happened there.

He has previously spammed the Liquipedia server with mass pings because his project didn't get its own LP page (as I was told by a LP admin/contributor).


And this is just my experience with him this year. Others have a way longer history and worse experience with him.

edit: and yes, the comment I replied to is most definitely a sockpuppet, as tec27 stated.


For the BWCL server:
massive spam, lying about being in ash and insulting people using the tag, then trying the same with other clans, more spamming, insulting clan leaders. And that was during my time as a bwcl admin, he had already been banned for life by face for spams and other issues too before.

As for people telling us to meet halfway, there is no halfway with this kind of behaviour. Few seasons ago in CPL he was in my team and I and several other did try to help him and he was ok for a grand total of a week before losing it (literally) again, this person needs actual treatment and I do hope they get it.

As for your post Minerals, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Whataboutism is not a good defense, if you have seen the behaviour you talk about, report it and hopefully it ll be dealt with.
Horang2 fan
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10403 Posts
March 25 2022 22:00 GMT
#35
Someone shared the GitHub link with me in case anyone wanted to take a look:

https://github.com/captain-majid?tab=repositories
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
March 25 2022 22:38 GMT
#36
On March 26 2022 05:46 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2022 19:32 LML wrote:
On March 25 2022 16:48 Headgehog wrote:
On March 25 2022 12:31 Jealous wrote:
The best evidence that I've seen was uncovered on the (unaffected because he was pre-banned) SSCAIT Discord where someone went into Moataz' GitHub repo and saw that he had recently been developing/forking Discord bots. It's too much of a coincidence.

To all the people defending him, tolerating such bullshit in our community is not acceptable. This deranged fucker has done too much already and he deserves no sympathy whatsoever. He's a parasite that refuses to let go, while terrorizing communities with his bullshit. Fuck him. I won't waste my time detailing all of the shit he has done but I invite everyone to search TL and beyond and DYOR.

What are you talking about, Hitler is back ?

FWIW the guy made three very useful projects to the community, and been treated very unfairly from what I saw, I didn't see any project underrated to hell like that while its awesome like that before, I didn't see anyone using his AI to analyze replays or for gameplay which is a shame and inexplicable to me, something just not right from the community against him, the closest word is jealousy, just go see the unreasonable amounts of downvotes to a topic like that, and almost every post/comment he made in Reddit, and you'll see something very strange out there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/si24gf/starcraft1_coachai_the_new_era_of_macro_has_begun/
https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/si07k2/starcraft1_coachai_the_new_era_of_macro_has_begun/

I think (if) Moataz is behind this attack somehow, then maybe trying to reach a middle ground is better for everyone. Also Moataz has a Discord server too, maybe we can give him a visit and see if there is a Ghost there or not ?


Right, he has been treated unfairly..

My first encounter ever with him was last December/this January when he joined our RCC (Red Clan Cup) Discord server that is solely used for our far and between tournaments. He joined and shortly after posted a self promoting post with links to his stuff which was promptly deleted. Now, the topic of the general channel was quite clearly: "Keep this channel RCC related. No spam/advertising.". There is a channel for promotions, but it's limited to stream advertisement for when you're live (description also tells that).
[image loading]
[image loading]
Today in that screenshot was January 3rd

This didn't deter him from posting it again, multiple times. Once more after that screenshot was taken in the replays channel. The last 2 times were under the disguise of trying to reach Dreamer (by pinging him at the end of it) and asking him to cast some matches or something. All still linking to his stuff. He was banned after that last (and 4th!) post.
[image loading]
The remains in that channel.

Nobody really joins that server usually outside of when we host a tournament. After Moataz joined in December and got banned on January 3rd, we got multiple accounts joining, starting January 4th. One even got marked by Discord as a likely spammer. Surprisingly that server was not spammed during the latest wave.

That same night he pinged me on the TDR (Nation Wars) Discord server.
[image loading]
Not allowing him to spam our server clearly makes me jealous and toxic (he's not the toxic one).
After replying that he spammed our server and continued after being told not to, he acted like none of that was true. After that he pinged Qikz, asking him if he wants to cast some of his stuff, since Qikz spoke favourable of Moataz's stuff before. Inlcuded was a link of a clip where Qikz said something positive/supporting of Moataz's stuff. Qikz swiftly replied, telling Moataz not to ping him.
Moataz was shortly after banned and all messages were removed from the TDR Discord.

During that same period (January 4th) he was also banned on the BWCL server.
[image loading]
I didn't witness what happened there.

He has previously spammed the Liquipedia server with mass pings because his project didn't get its own LP page (as I was told by a LP admin/contributor).


And this is just my experience with him this year. Others have a way longer history and worse experience with him.

edit: and yes, the comment I replied to is most definitely a sockpuppet, as tec27 stated.


For the BWCL server:
massive spam, lying about being in ash and insulting people using the tag, then trying the same with other clans, more spamming, insulting clan leaders. And that was during my time as a bwcl admin, he had already been banned for life by face for spams and other issues too before.

As for people telling us to meet halfway, there is no halfway with this kind of behaviour. Few seasons ago in CPL he was in my team and I and several other did try to help him and he was ok for a grand total of a week before losing it (literally) again, this person needs actual treatment and I do hope they get it.

As for your post Minerals, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Whataboutism is not a good defense, if you have seen the behaviour you talk about, report it and hopefully it ll be dealt with.

I fucking hate going into this territory, for obvious reasons.

Having been there, done that, got the t-shirt, been extremely mentally unstable myself, been in an institution for basically a year. This kind of behaviour ticks too many achingly familiar boxes

There isn’t, as you say a halfway solution.

Guy needs help, not for the wider BW community’s good but for his own.

I mean I got it and over time realised I was being a gigantic pain in the arse in the prior period.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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y2kid
Profile Joined May 2018
92 Posts
March 26 2022 00:11 GMT
#37
On March 26 2022 07:00 Jealous wrote:
Someone shared the GitHub link with me in case anyone wanted to take a look:

https://github.com/captain-majid?tab=repositories


As many others, I'm almost convinced it is him. I am maintaining the cpl app and someone literally tried ddosing it day 1... It's a sad thing to see really. But also as a fellow dev, what am I looking at here @Jealous? You don't think that guy is stupid/naive to leave all these public are you? He hasn't done any development and they've not been updated in a long time. It's all there for the show I think... Clearly guy wants attention and doing posts such as this one gives him exactly that. That's why I don't think I'll be posting anything on that topic further.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
March 26 2022 14:11 GMT
#38
Wow so much attention for this guy. Just stop it. Ban and be done with it.
-.-
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
March 26 2022 18:36 GMT
#39
On March 26 2022 23:11 MeSaber wrote:
Wow so much attention for this guy. Just stop it. Ban and be done with it.


The issue is you ban him and he makes another account and comes back. He keeps doing this.
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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
March 27 2022 05:39 GMT
#40
On March 27 2022 03:36 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2022 23:11 MeSaber wrote:
Wow so much attention for this guy. Just stop it. Ban and be done with it.


The issue is you ban him and he makes another account and comes back. He keeps doing this.


1. Limit postings per minute, easy/fast to find the spammer and ban before he can do any real damage.
2. Close the discord and require a link to tl.net account with that account name in the profile signature or something. Any with 0 posts or less than bla bla you dont allow.
3. A donation for joining the discord, small sum but that will actually make him pay for his crimes lol.
4. Check how other big discord servers handle this issue, its most likely by not allowing new people to post until they stayed x amount of time or limit their posting abilities to zero until they earned it.

Possibilities to limit spammers are endless and its on the admin side to figure it out.

I personally would only allow people who link their tl.net account to chat (if the discord server has anything to do with tl.net that is).

Good Luck
-.-
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