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ASL13 Starts Feb 8th, Qualifiers Jan 22/23

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 12 2022 09:48 GMT
#1
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https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/82394125

Everything same as last time.

Qualifier sign-up till 19/01 Sign-up form

Qualifier #1 (online): 22/01 (12 slots)
Qualifier #2 (online): 23/01 (12 slots)

Qualifier mappool: Polypoid, Eclipse, FS


Broadcast schedule:
08/02 (Tuesday) - 09/04 (Saturday), every Tuesday + Wednesday @ 1900KST (live from the FreecUP Studio)


NEW ASL MAPS (subject to change): https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13 (미정)




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WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 12 2022 09:46 GMT
#2
Finally!
Flash | Mvp
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
January 12 2022 09:46 GMT
#3
H-Y-P-E !! I hope I can see Jaedong again in the highest
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1685 Posts
January 12 2022 14:31 GMT
#4
RAIN PLEASE RETURN
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
January 12 2022 14:47 GMT
#5
Love the map choices!

I think they are not that bad for Protoss, for once!

prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 12 2022 15:42 GMT
#6
On January 12 2022 18:46 masoka82 wrote:
H-Y-P-E !! I hope I can see Jaedong again in the highest

YES!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 12 2022 15:42 GMT
#7
On January 12 2022 23:31 ShowTheLights wrote:
RAIN PLEASE RETURN

This too I want !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-12 16:55:06
January 12 2022 16:54 GMT
#8
oh shit.. 2 maps from the New Worlds map contest in again?! :D hope it stays that way!

ASL always a pleasure to watch, glad it's finally back
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redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 12 2022 18:00 GMT
#9
I think the rumblings are that Rain and Jaedong are going to participate and Effort is debating (which is a good sign because he was previously a hard no)

Hope Rain does come back because with Stork not competing anymore there's a huge skill gap after the big 3 of Mini, Best and Snow... it's kind of ridiculous that either YSC or Ruin is in the conversation as a top 5 competitive Protoss
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
248 Posts
January 12 2022 18:09 GMT
#10
I like the maps. They aren't as weird as they usually are. And Sky Bridge is about the prettiest map I have ever seen.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
January 12 2022 19:17 GMT
#11
Is jaedong participating?
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1047 Posts
January 12 2022 20:19 GMT
#12
On January 13 2022 04:17 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Is jaedong participating?


Yes he will be doing Qualifiers as far as I've heard him say on his stream lately. He is pretty excited to test where he's at and see how he fairs.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
January 12 2022 21:12 GMT
#13
All the maps look funky. I'm excited!
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-12 22:52:28
January 12 2022 22:42 GMT
#14
May the BeSt man win.

Edit: Also hyped for the Jaedong man and the Snow man, any of those three would be amazing.
May the BeSt man win.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
January 12 2022 23:43 GMT
#15
On January 13 2022 07:42 Djabanete wrote:
May the BeSt man win.

Edit: Also hyped for the Jaedong man and the Snow man, any of those three would be amazing.

After Mini's two time runner up finally turned into a victory, I hope Snow can do the same.

Anyway, great to have ASL back.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 13 2022 10:34 GMT
#16
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
January 13 2022 13:59 GMT
#17
I'm more excited to see the gameplay on these maps than I am about who's going to win it or go deep if I'm being honest.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 13 2022 16:22 GMT
#18
mmm butter, map names are peaking.
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Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark353 Posts
January 13 2022 18:12 GMT
#19
Yeeeees!!! Thank you!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 13 2022 18:46 GMT
#20
Fuck yes! I'm excited for JD and want to see Rain and Larva to comeback.
sunbeams are never made like me...
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
January 14 2022 01:57 GMT
#21
Are they doing ACS again?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
January 14 2022 02:02 GMT
#22
Yes, Artosis uploaded a video not long ago about ACS.
Artosis loves Starcraft
psyCrowe
Profile Joined December 2007
Scotland195 Posts
January 14 2022 10:11 GMT
#23
These maps all look pretty interesting, looking forward to the games
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 14 2022 11:55 GMT
#24
On January 14 2022 10:57 QOGQOG wrote:
Are they doing ACS again?


yes, finals this sunday
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 17 2022 19:11 GMT
#25
are players trying out these new maps yet? maybe somebody has info/stream?
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[JXSA].Zergling
Profile Joined July 2020
China186 Posts
January 18 2022 02:01 GMT
#26
Who are the contestants and who are not?
omahahowitzer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States98 Posts
January 18 2022 06:19 GMT
#27
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 18 2022 08:31 GMT
#28
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster

That's not Best "recently" (as in he has improved/been in top form recently).

He has always been like that, playing like a god today then choking hard the next. This time last year he was regularly crushing Flash.

One thing is for sure, he's more likely to play like a god when sitting in his chair at home rather than in the studio.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
January 18 2022 08:51 GMT
#29
Any news on Bisu?
Oppa feeding style
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 18 2022 09:04 GMT
#30
No but looks like Rain may join this ASL qualifier.
Based on his games vs other top pros recently, he's comfortably a top 16 player. And that's without serious practice. Such a shame him, Last and Larva all retired. They're not even old compared to other currently active players.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 11:39:59
January 18 2022 11:36 GMT
#31
Yeah Rain today plays vs Terran player

vs Sorry no chances for Sorry, Rain was POWERFUL,
now play vs Mong, same no chances for Mong

Rain without any serious practice look like member minimum 1/8 ASL 13
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bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
January 18 2022 11:53 GMT
#32
Damnn Rain look so good its looking scary! Cant wait for qualifications to see who will participate!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 18 2022 19:34 GMT
#33
Any vods ?
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 04:52:59
January 19 2022 04:51 GMT
#34
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster


In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again.

Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 06:47:49
January 19 2022 05:15 GMT
#35
On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster


In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again.

Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha.

I don't know you can really lump Snow together with Best. Where Best just seems hard stuck at the Round of 8, Snow has made the finals twice. Unfortunately, hitting peak Rain and peak Flash meant he lost pretty bad both times. Still, I'd love to see either of them take it this season.
omahahowitzer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States98 Posts
January 19 2022 06:52 GMT
#36
On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster


In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again.

Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha.


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
January 19 2022 07:39 GMT
#37
Rain is training yesterday
Jaedong is training last weeks
Sea training today TvT vs Shinee


Slogan ASL13 = Old School Come Back?

By the way - why Shinee (T) does not qualify on ASL?? not allowed or??
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Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
38 Posts
January 19 2022 14:37 GMT
#38
How is Jeadong doing with his preparation for asl qual ?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 19 2022 15:23 GMT
#39
There's a clear top 10 in the Korean scene these days, that means you don't really have a clear favorite when any of these guys face each other:
T: Rush Light Royal
P: Best Mini Snow
Z: Queen Soma Hero Soulkey

After that the level drops off a bit with the likes of JYJ, Sharp, Action, Effort, and maybe Shuttle (depending on how serious he is, I feel). Jaedong is doing good, he probably belongs to this group and will qualify easily. So is Rain. But I feel their chances will be better if they don't have to play ZvT and PvZ.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
January 19 2022 17:43 GMT
#40
The Rain FapFest is revving up
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 19:30:21
January 19 2022 19:29 GMT
#41
[QUOTE]On January 19 2022 15:52 omahahowitzer wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.[/QUOTE]

ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't. [/QUOTE]





I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream.
Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc.
This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 20:28:34
January 19 2022 20:26 GMT
#42


Big leagues create storylines and legacies though.. this is why it was always the most important aspect of the competitive scene of any game but 1v1 games especially.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 20:29:20
January 19 2022 20:28 GMT
#43
oops, double post
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redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 19 2022 20:34 GMT
#44
On January 20 2022 00:23 TMNT wrote:
There's a clear top 10 in the Korean scene these days, that means you don't really have a clear favorite when any of these guys face each other:
T: Rush Light Royal
P: Best Mini Snow
Z: Queen Soma Hero Soulkey

After that the level drops off a bit with the likes of JYJ, Sharp, Action, Effort, and maybe Shuttle (depending on how serious he is, I feel). Jaedong is doing good, he probably belongs to this group and will qualify easily. So is Rain. But I feel their chances will be better if they don't have to play ZvT and PvZ.


yes the top 10 are the core members of the online "major proleague"

Rain and Jaedong aren't really major proleague level at the current moment since they're rusty, but they have so much class that they can easily hang w the top 10 if they put in the time

Royal is the one shooting up the ranks competing w Rush for 2nd best Terran (Rush's form dipping a bit since ASL)

Even that group right outside the top 10 aren't at the same level, in my opinion there's a gap with Effort / Sharp higher than Action / JYJ,/ sSak / Shuttle

Terran and Zerg have decent depth outside top 10 but Protoss is still too top heavy even if you put Rain back in the mix
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 20:45:10
January 19 2022 20:43 GMT
#45


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.


I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream.


Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc.
This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here.


I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot.

sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively

But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out

The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL
Patasti
Profile Joined July 2020
Romania15 Posts
January 19 2022 21:04 GMT
#46
Is there any coverage of these proleagues?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 19 2022 21:39 GMT
#47
On January 20 2022 06:04 Patasti wrote:
Is there any coverage of these proleagues?

Mini has all of them in full videos on his channel (obviously only the ones he participated in )
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTJFcLnX5FpjCUWH4VOkxEg/videos

There's just too much content to digest really.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 19 2022 21:44 GMT
#48
On January 20 2022 06:04 Patasti wrote:
Is there any coverage of these proleagues?


Just look at the live streams around 8-10pm korean time, no one is really casting it, you have 4 people on a team, 1 plays while the other 3 do discord commentary while observing

Sharp usually participated in the most proleagues, so his stream used to be a safe bet for proleague content, but now that he's doing college content I would say the safest bets are Soma or Mini's streams
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
39 Posts
January 19 2022 22:29 GMT
#49
What does "college content" mean?
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 19 2022 22:40 GMT
#50
On January 20 2022 07:29 FunkyDragoon wrote:
What does "college content" mean?

pretty long discussion of it here

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/582515-is-jaedong-back
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
39 Posts
January 19 2022 22:43 GMT
#51
Ah right... the Afreeca girls playing SC and being coached by the pros. Some of them are super hot though not gonna lie, like Best's girlfriend.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 20 2022 17:59 GMT
#52
https://bj.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/post/82794186

Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate

I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 20 2022 18:05 GMT
#53
On January 21 2022 02:59 redknights wrote:
https://bj.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/post/82794186

Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate

I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers

OMG! Big news right here redknights

I'll be watching for sure even if i don't understand a word haha
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 20 2022 19:01 GMT
#54
On January 21 2022 02:59 redknights wrote:
https://bj.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/post/82794186

Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate

I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers

good to hear

hope he'll be forgiven same as Flash and we can move on from this.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
January 20 2022 19:47 GMT
#55
Wow! I'd be so glad if he participated in ASL!
Great news anyways! (hoping the stream will continue of course in the coming days, weeks, years...)
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
38 Posts
January 20 2022 21:18 GMT
#56
Bisu I forgive you.
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
39 Posts
January 20 2022 23:42 GMT
#57
BeeSoo come back
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
January 21 2022 05:47 GMT
#58
On January 20 2022 05:43 redknights wrote:


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.


I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream.


Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc.
This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here.


I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot.

sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively

But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out

The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL


Maybe Microsoft pumps in cash for ASL one day, one can hope!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
January 21 2022 10:07 GMT
#59
On January 21 2022 02:59 redknights wrote:
https://bj.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/post/82794186

Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate

I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers


i want him to come back and DT rush his way thru quals again :3
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
January 21 2022 11:11 GMT
#60
Really hope to see Bisu and his dancing goons back in ASL
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 21 2022 11:34 GMT
#61
If he wants to play this ASL he would have come back a while ago. No way he just registered and play qualifiers without apologizing to fans first.

I think if he continues streaming, it will be ASL commentary and college content first. Whether or not he will play competitive BW remains to be seen.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 21 2022 14:01 GMT
#62
On January 21 2022 14:47 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2022 05:43 redknights wrote:


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.


I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream.


Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc.
This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here.


I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot.

sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively

But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out

The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL


Maybe Microsoft pumps in cash for ASL one day, one can hope!


Does anyone know if Microsoft as a company is disgustingly rich or is that just Bill Gates
EagleEagle
Profile Joined February 2021
2 Posts
January 21 2022 15:48 GMT
#63
Is anyone going to do a stream of the quals? Any information on this, yall?
EAGS
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-21 15:55:05
January 21 2022 15:52 GMT
#64
On January 21 2022 23:01 redknights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2022 14:47 Dante08 wrote:
On January 20 2022 05:43 redknights wrote:


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.


I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream.


Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc.
This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here.


I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot.

sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively

But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out

The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL


Maybe Microsoft pumps in cash for ASL one day, one can hope!


Does anyone know if Microsoft as a company is disgustingly rich or is that just Bill Gates


Microsoft has about $2 trillion net worth. I don't think the acquisition will really affect BW at all in the short-mid term. Chances for a SC3 are more likely in the next 5-10 years though as the current Xbox division seems to like to have more PC-focused games on game pass (see their recent funding on AoE4).
Free Palestine
bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
January 21 2022 17:33 GMT
#65
On January 22 2022 00:48 EagleEagle wrote:
Is anyone going to do a stream of the quals? Any information on this, yall?
EAGS


Since its online qualifications they cast replays live when they receive them. Stream will be on Afreeca.
It would be nice if someone can post in what time will stream start and why there is still no update on liquipedia page for ASL S13?
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 21 2022 17:39 GMT
#66
qualifier streams start at 1300KST tomorrow + Sunday
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-21 18:57:41
January 21 2022 18:45 GMT
#67
This is the official stream for Afreeca TV's Main Events, where every notable BW tour that they host is streamed. In the past, they have streamed qualifiers in a variety of formats (live, replays etc).

https://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1

Unfortunately I have no idea why on TL this link doesn't pop up all the time when it has a BW event, since most of them are known beforehand and I've seen that happen for other streams.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-21 23:01:15
January 21 2022 22:34 GMT
#68
On January 21 2022 20:34 TMNT wrote:
If he wants to play this ASL he would have come back a while ago. No way he just registered and play qualifiers without apologizing to fans first.

I think if he continues streaming, it will be ASL commentary and college content first. Whether or not he will play competitive BW remains to be seen.


On the Korean message boards, the rumblings are that Bisu has signed up and is in group #7 with Stork, who also apparently signed up too

Source (Shuttle's stream): https://www.fmkorea.com/index.php?mid=starcraft&document_srl=4271632172

So if this is true, Sharp is also in Group 7 making it a tough group (obviously depending on how much Bisu and Stork have actually practiced)

Another rumored tough group is Group 1 with Soma and Soulkey both in it

Edit: besides Rain and Jaedong, lesser players who have rumored to have signed up (some after long absences): Sea, Calm, Horang2, Guemchi. Hiya, Nal_rA, Pusan
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 22 2022 00:27 GMT
#69
If that picture is true, the group drawing is a farce. I thought they always had a system where seeded players are put in different group to avoid them facing each other.

So how the hell we have group 1 with Soma + Soulkey, group 2 with Light + JYJ, group 7 with Sharp + Bisu + Stork, but group 6 contains 3 retirees in Sea Hiya Guemchi and Scan?
You telling me none of the second seeded player in group 1 2 or 7 have a higher ASL coefficient than the rest of group 6?
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 00:46:58
January 22 2022 00:46 GMT
#70
the running half-joke among the pros was that Afreeca would put Sea in an easy group since that would be good for viewership if Sea qualified (Sea is by far one of the most popular streamers on Afreeca)

You could make the case that Rain, Jaedong and Shuttle (also popular streamers) were given easy groups too

but you're right, it's a farce that the two strongest Zergs are in the same group, and these two are legitimate championship contenders....

Soulkey should have been put in group 4, 5, or 6. Action in Group 4 is way below Soma in current form and Group 5's strongest potential member is sSak
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 01:08 GMT
#71
Actually sSak is not in Group 5, he's in Group 1

Group 5 might be more of a joke than Group 6 now

Also of note (?) Artosis in Group 1 also
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 01:09 GMT
#72
JyJ not in Group 2, Light has a clear path
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 01:23:09
January 22 2022 01:14 GMT
#73
If I were a betting man I would put everything on Nal_rA.

It is good that I am not a betting man.

Best, Jaedong, Snow, Nal_rA fighting!
May the BeSt man win.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 01:18 GMT
#74
oh snap, Soma might not be in Group 1 after all...
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 22 2022 01:26 GMT
#75
Yeah I'm watching Rush's stream right now. Looks like the information from Shuttle are not all correct. Soma in group 5 instead. Maybe JYJ in group 6 as well? Now it makes more sense.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 01:29 GMT
#76
On January 22 2022 10:26 TMNT wrote:
Yeah I'm watching Rush's stream right now. Looks like the information from Shuttle are not all correct. Soma in group 5 instead. Maybe JYJ in group 6 as well? Now it makes more sense.

haha Rush says absolutely no chance group 6 gets disturbed, Afreeca will want one of Sea or Guemchi for viewership purposes
sadego
Profile Joined September 2019
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 01:37:17
January 22 2022 01:30 GMT
#77
Can't wait!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
January 22 2022 01:32 GMT
#78
On January 21 2022 23:01 redknights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2022 14:47 Dante08 wrote:
On January 20 2022 05:43 redknights wrote:


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.


I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream.


Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc.
This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here.


I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot.

sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively

But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out

The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL


Maybe Microsoft pumps in cash for ASL one day, one can hope!


Does anyone know if Microsoft as a company is disgustingly rich or is that just Bill Gates


Microsoft is disgustingly rich, they have like $200-300b in cash.

Anyway Stork is playing this ASL? Thought he retired from tournaments.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 01:59 GMT
#79
On January 22 2022 10:32 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2022 23:01 redknights wrote:
On January 21 2022 14:47 Dante08 wrote:
On January 20 2022 05:43 redknights wrote:


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.


I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream.


Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc.
This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here.


I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot.

sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively

But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out

The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL


Maybe Microsoft pumps in cash for ASL one day, one can hope!


Does anyone know if Microsoft as a company is disgustingly rich or is that just Bill Gates


Microsoft is disgustingly rich, they have like $200-300b in cash.

Anyway Stork is playing this ASL? Thought he retired from tournaments.

He never ruled out returning, he just wanted to take time after ASL to grow his YouTube channel (probably trying to fill the void from Last going to military) and do other content

There's also talk that his wife signed him up for ASL and he might not even show up
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 02:18 GMT
#80
lmfao Rain's bracket has 4 pros on the other side of the bracket and only one on Rain's side

nice job Afreeca
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1950 Posts
January 22 2022 03:01 GMT
#81
Dang, Butter was my favourite map from NWMC, real cool to see that it made ASL. New, interesting maps hype me up more than anything else.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
January 22 2022 03:28 GMT
#82
Sky bridge looks like a more Terran friendly Neo Sylphid. Looking forward to seeing pro games on it.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 04:08 GMT
#83
Group 7 does have Bisu, Stork and Sharp along with Miso

This looks super unbalanced compared to some other groups

Sharp is nominally the seeded player and I think he will make it out but they did him dirrrrrty - even if Bisu and Stork are rusty, it's still PvT, cross spawn nexus first and any Terran is half-dead already
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 04:25:43
January 22 2022 04:23 GMT
#84
Is there a link with the live results ? There was at ASL 12.

Found.

https://challonge.com/users/asl_s13/tournaments.html
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
January 22 2022 04:49 GMT
#85
Damn, it takes Sacsri to take out the mighty Tosis
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 05:58:02
January 22 2022 05:57 GMT
#86
On January 22 2022 13:08 redknights wrote:
Group 7 does have Bisu, Stork and Sharp along with Miso

This looks super unbalanced compared to some other groups

Sharp is nominally the seeded player and I think he will make it out but they did him dirrrrrty - even if Bisu and Stork are rusty, it's still PvT, cross spawn nexus first and any Terran is half-dead already

sharp ain't any D-level terran tho.
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
January 22 2022 06:35 GMT
#87
so far its Soulkey vs Sacsri in group 1, Light vs 815 in group 2 and Action vs Midas in group 4, if i understood correctly
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 06:43:54
January 22 2022 06:41 GMT
#88
SK just advanced from G1.

Bisu vs MisO is playing on AfreecaTV.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 12:30:27
January 22 2022 07:02 GMT
#89
G1:SK VS Sacsri
G2:Light vs 815
G3:Rain vs Barracks
G4:Action vs Midas
G5:Huro vs Soma
G6: Scan VS JYJ
G7:Bisu vs Sharp
G8: Pusan vs JD
G9: Hyuk vs Royal
G10: Mong vs Best
G11: Ss1nz vs Ruin
G12: Snow vs Shine
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 08:15:00
January 22 2022 07:23 GMT
#90
well, group 6 doesn't look so easy for Sea to get out after all.

aaaaaand, he didn't. Mighty Scan crushing through!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
January 22 2022 07:33 GMT
#91
I'm tyring to do the lp for the qualifiers but some guy named ultim made a page as well and it's messing with it.
Artosis loves Starcraft
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
January 22 2022 07:39 GMT
#92
OOOHH THE BIG JD IN G8! well, that's the group he can surely get out of
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 08:18:59
January 22 2022 08:17 GMT
#93
I hope Stork makes it in Day 2, but Rain and Bisu still in the running!!!

And holy shit Pusan going up against JD in Group 8?? What year is it LOL (i also hope leta comes thru day2, he had some fun ideas in the last asl)
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 22 2022 08:26 GMT
#94
Pusan Nal_ra Bisu Stork Rain fighting!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
January 22 2022 09:06 GMT
#95
Can't believe I'm watching Rain build scouts against Barracks lmao.
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
January 22 2022 09:10 GMT
#96
On January 22 2022 18:06 Lazyer wrote:
Can't believe I'm watching Rain build scouts against Barracks lmao.


What the hell?
jtkirk
Profile Joined January 2017
33 Posts
January 22 2022 09:26 GMT
#97
On January 22 2022 18:10 angryground wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2022 18:06 Lazyer wrote:
Can't believe I'm watching Rain build scouts against Barracks lmao.


What the hell?


He threw that game away, even moved out with zealots 10 seconds before speed finished.
Not a big deal, he is making a comeback in game 3, dominating Barracks even after loosing 3rd.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 22 2022 09:39 GMT
#98
Seems like Bisu, Jaedong, Rain all qualified from first day.
Can't believe we're seeing this after the mass retirements after ASL11 and 12.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 22 2022 09:52 GMT
#99
these qualifiers are INSANELY stacked.. tbh I think expanding first group stage to 32 players would not be the worst of ideas..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 22 2022 09:53 GMT
#100
so many interesting and big names always missing with only 24 spots up for grabs..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 22 2022 10:03 GMT
#101
5-8 players should be top 24 seed.
Royal,SK,Soma,Light
All qualified.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 10:30:47
January 22 2022 10:29 GMT
#102
top 8 seeded into ro32 + 24 players qualify = best ASL ever, here we go!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 22 2022 10:41 GMT
#103
Stream too short? They didn't even cover all the groups.

Top 8 seeded into R32 seems like a better format. The current seeding format gives too much privilege to the top 4 of last season for me, especially the winner. Win 3 games against opponents you handpick and you're through to R8. Surely if you're one of the best you should be able to make it to R8 from R32 and don't need a shortcut.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 11:16:22
January 22 2022 11:15 GMT
#104
looking at this field of players an expansion to 32 would be amazing to see.. but there's maybe like 0.5% of chances of they actually implementing it.. a man can dream though
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 22 2022 11:52 GMT
#105
How did Scan get on?

Breakdown of all results would be appreciated!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 12:30:42
January 22 2022 11:57 GMT
#106
On January 22 2022 16:02 HOLYBATS wrote:
G1:SK VS Sacsri
G2:Light vs 815
G3:Rain vs Barracks
G4:Action vs Midas
G5:Huro vs Soma
G6: Scan VS JYJ
G7:Bisu vs Sharp
G8: Pusan vs JD
G9: Hyuk vs Royal
G10: Mong vs Best
G11: Ss1nz vs Ruin
G12: Snow vs Shine


5 P 4 Z 3 T
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 22 2022 12:37 GMT
#107
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso

bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
January 22 2022 12:54 GMT
#108
Man Jaedong,Bisu and Rain return for ASL S13! Im so hyped for new season!
Would be awesome if we can see Larva and Nada tommorow in qualifications but i know its slim chances for that!
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 22 2022 13:43 GMT
#109
^ If Nada won't be cheesed, he can come ASL 13 and Larva can cheese to take this too.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
January 22 2022 15:20 GMT
#110
Holy shit JD Bisu and Rain, what a great start to this ASL already!
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
January 22 2022 15:32 GMT
#111
Pusan losing to JD
Tomorrow is another day, lets go Spirit Toss!
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
January 22 2022 15:37 GMT
#112
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso


did free not try to qualify?
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain346 Posts
January 22 2022 15:37 GMT
#113
Is Midas the Midas from T1? I though that guy was sooooo retired.
Nice to see Bisu and Rain back!!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 22 2022 15:55 GMT
#114
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso


crazy list.. expansion is a must for real!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
38 Posts
January 22 2022 16:11 GMT
#115
On January 23 2022 00:37 SpaNiarD wrote:
Is Midas the Midas from T1? I though that guy was sooooo retired.



He is still streaming. You can check his porfile on afreecatv.

redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 22 2022 16:12 GMT
#116
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso


only "upsets" were Ruin over Shuttle and maybe Bisu over Sharp, everyone else expected to go through did

this means Day 2 qualifying should be a total breeze for any high-level player left

Stork, Shuttle, Sharp, Ssak, Mong, Sacsri seem like locks to make it in

Afreeca will probably jigger the groups again so that popular streamers like Guemchi, Horang2, Sea, Leta and Calm have easy paths
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 16:29:57
January 22 2022 16:26 GMT
#117
On January 22 2022 14:57 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2022 13:08 redknights wrote:
Group 7 does have Bisu, Stork and Sharp along with Miso

This looks super unbalanced compared to some other groups

Sharp is nominally the seeded player and I think he will make it out but they did him dirrrrrty - even if Bisu and Stork are rusty, it's still PvT, cross spawn nexus first and any Terran is half-dead already

sharp ain't any D-level terran tho.

Bisu and Stork aren't D-level protosses either, even the top top Terrans say that cross-spawn nexus first is a "sagi" build giving Terran a big disadvantage with no real counter. Even on maps like Revolver, if the Protoss spawns horizontal from you and do nexus first, some pro Terrans say it's too risky to do the cheese rush w SCVs

Anyway the end result w Bisu, Sharp got his gas stolen on Eclipse on Game 2 and then died to cross-spawn nexus first on FS - where nexus first is not good for Protoss unless it's cross spawn due to small rush distances - in Game 3 (then complained about group balance lmfao)
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
January 22 2022 16:35 GMT
#118
On January 23 2022 00:37 SpaNiarD wrote:
Is Midas the Midas from T1? I though that guy was sooooo retired.
Nice to see Bisu and Rain back!!


Midas plays quite a lot, everyday. https://play.afreecatv.com/isangwk/228091865
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 22 2022 16:49 GMT
#119
On January 23 2022 00:37 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso


did free not try to qualify?

Yeah he didn't, But last season he only popped up from day 2, so we'll see. I reckon the reason was that his wrist can't sustain 2 days of consecutive playing at the highest level, so better save it for the day with the higher chance.
zegarruela
Profile Joined September 2004
Peru7 Posts
January 22 2022 20:57 GMT
#120
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso



Dandy(T) in Group 11, best player Latam
23
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
January 22 2022 21:01 GMT
#121
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso



Remaining players are gonna be playing bloody battle
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1302 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-22 21:32:45
January 22 2022 21:31 GMT
#122
It's hard to put in words how grateful (and hyped) I am for this. What are the odds that the one video game you care about is still around 25 years later, all the big names are still around and new ones are coming. I just feel so lucky and happy.

PS: I remember Midas broad childish smile and was not aware he is still around or even active. Excited to see him play.
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
January 23 2022 03:38 GMT
#123
On January 23 2022 06:01 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso



Remaining players are gonna be playing bloody battle




SHARP Fighting.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
PtossParty
Profile Joined July 2021
20 Posts
January 23 2022 04:07 GMT
#124
Any english stream?
2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
January 23 2022 04:20 GMT
#125
I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine?
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 23 2022 04:25 GMT
#126
On January 23 2022 12:38 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 06:01 LaStScan wrote:
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote:
Notable players who played today but did not qualify:
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan
T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis
Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso



Remaining players are gonna be playing bloody battle




SHARP Fighting.

Sharp is in heavily favored in group 7 with Movie and Zelot being the only serious opponents

Movie and Zelot both do plenty of cheesy all-in crap so Sharp could run into some bad luck here

He's known for being good in messy games but against lower tier players I think he won't lose in a macro game
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 23 2022 04:26 GMT
#127
On January 23 2022 13:20 2xNoodle wrote:
I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine?

the broadcast is replay based, they're replaying the games from yesterday that finished after the broadcast ended
2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
January 23 2022 04:47 GMT
#128
On January 23 2022 13:26 redknights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 13:20 2xNoodle wrote:
I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine?

the broadcast is replay based, they're replaying the games from yesterday that finished after the broadcast ended


Ah, I see. Thanks!
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 04:52 GMT
#129
G1:Huro vs Sacsri
G2: (NellTod vs BishOp) vs PianO


Artosis eliminated in the first round G2.Pusan eliminated in second Round G2.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 04:55 GMT
#130
On January 23 2022 13:20 2xNoodle wrote:
I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine?

In which group ?
2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
January 23 2022 05:29 GMT
#131
On January 23 2022 13:55 HOLYBATS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 13:20 2xNoodle wrote:
I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine?

In which group ?


Group 12, per your post. But as someone said, maybe I was just getting confused because I didn't know they were casting the later groups from yesterday from replay.
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 09:33:15
January 23 2022 05:30 GMT
#132
On January 23 2022 14:29 2xNoodle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 13:55 HOLYBATS wrote:
On January 23 2022 13:20 2xNoodle wrote:
I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine?

In which group ?


Group 12, per your post. But as someone said, maybe I was just getting confused because I didn't know they were casting the later groups from yesterday from replay.


I mean todays group.I did not see him.

G1:Huro vs Sacsri
G2: BishOp vs PianO
G3: Hyun vs Shuttle
G4: Tyson ? vs Spire
G5: vs GuemChi
G6: vs Ggaemo
G7: Sharp vs Movie
G8: Horang2 vs
G9: Scan vs Beast
G10: Mong vs
G11: BarrackS vs (nOOB vs HiyA)
G12: (sSak vs Marvel) vs ( Speed vs Ss1nz )

10 P 6 Z 4 T
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
January 23 2022 05:40 GMT
#133
I think the guy vs spire is called NsPWhite. thats what the tls search gave me. Though im not 100% sure. He's plaed some sc2 back in the day.
Artosis loves Starcraft
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 23 2022 06:04 GMT
#134
despite Afreeca's best efforts, Sea fails to qualify
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 23 2022 06:06 GMT
#135
On January 23 2022 15:04 redknights wrote:
despite Afreeca's best efforts, Sea fails to qualify

and promptly announces his retirement (again?) from Starcraft
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 23 2022 06:18 GMT
#136
It's so hard to see Terran players in ASL 13, maybe everyone knows how to kill Terran in 2022. The fighting of 3 race still goes on so long in the future.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
January 23 2022 07:48 GMT
#137
Oh damn, Bishop's first ASL!
Honestly, it doesn't seem to me that Sea groups were particulary easy and him not getting out is only natural (what, he was supposed to beat JyJ or ggaemo?). being entertaining shouldn't be enough to get into asl.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 08:28:06
January 23 2022 08:04 GMT
#138
G1:Huro vs Sacsri
G2: BishOp vs PianO
G3: Hyun vs Shuttle
G4: Tyson ? vs Spire
G5: vs GuemChi
G6: vs (Ggaemo vs Midas)
G7: Sharp vs Movie
G8: Horang2 vs
G9: (Stork vs Scan) vs (Ample vs Beast )
G10: (Mong vs) vs ( vs )
G11:
G12: (sSak vs) vs ( vs )

Stork vs Scan
I was supporting both
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 23 2022 08:06 GMT
#139
Sharp is out, biggest name to miss out in ASL 13

worried this latest setback will really affect him mentally, this is a new career low despite him hovering around top 10 in elo for last few months

didn't help that Afreeca put him in a ridiculous group in day 1, but there's really no excuse to lose to Movie 0:2
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
January 23 2022 08:08 GMT
#140
Where can I watch this?
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 08:22 GMT
#141
http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1/
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
39 Posts
January 23 2022 08:56 GMT
#142
Sharp losing to Movie is quite a surprise gotta say
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 09:17:01
January 23 2022 09:08 GMT
#143
Not surprised to be honest. Among the popular streamers, only Rain is the real deal. Him, Last and Larva left the scene when they were still at the top of it. Skill wise, they still are. The likes of Sea and Calm have been in decline far too long. A couple of practice games few days prior to the qualifier isn't enough for them to overcome the strong amateurs.

But Stork was given tough groups to be fair, Sharp + Bisu yesterday and Scan + Beast today. He could have advanced if put in that Piano Bishop group for example.

Having said that, Horang2 and Guemchi both just qualified. I guess Protoss is easy then
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
January 23 2022 09:28 GMT
#144
[image loading]

TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 23 2022 09:32 GMT
#145
Fucking hell there're already 10 Protoss qualified compared to Terran's 4 and Zerg's 6.
And that's with Stork eliminated and Free not participating.
Ss1nz and Noob are still competing in group 11 and 12 though.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 11:00:53
January 23 2022 09:33 GMT
#146
G1:Huro vs Sacsri
G2: BishOp vs PianO
G3: Hyun vs Shuttle
G4: Tyson vs Spire
G5: vs GuemChi
G6: vs Ggaemo
G7: Sharp vs Movie
G8: Horang2 vs
G9: Scan vs Beast
G10: Mong vs
G11: BarrackS vs nOOB
G12: sSak vs Speed

10 P 7 Z 7 T
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 09:39 GMT
#147
Protoss seems improved.Apart from the 10.
Good line up.

Mini
Rain
Bisu
Snow
Best
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
January 23 2022 09:39 GMT
#148
I was just looking at ASL12 qualifiers, apparently BarrackS beat nOOB in quals before then. I hope he makes it out!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 23 2022 09:40 GMT
#149
G4 is Tyson no doubt. Look at his battle tag.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
January 23 2022 09:41 GMT
#150
Scan vs Beast right now,
SCAN FIGHTNING!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 09:44 GMT
#151
Go Scan!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
January 23 2022 09:51 GMT
#152
oh fuck defilers are on the way.
Artosis loves Starcraft
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
January 23 2022 09:54 GMT
#153
Nice game
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 23 2022 10:02 GMT
#154
Map pool favors Terran but their skill isn't enough to get it. Terran usually wins in standard maps. Polypoid, Eclipse, FS are standard
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 10:12:05
January 23 2022 10:11 GMT
#155
I guess Mong had enough skill. I think FS is pretty even map.
Artosis loves Starcraft
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 23 2022 10:12 GMT
#156
Mong vs Action looks like Flash vs ZerO in the final MSL 2010
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
January 23 2022 10:24 GMT
#157
Action has fallen far off, too much girlstreamers? Hopefully Bishop, Beast and Ruin can get paired with someone like omekim or Lolrang to get possible prestige and experience in ASL.
it's not just a music it's something else
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
January 23 2022 10:36 GMT
#158
A probe massacre to finsh things off.
Artosis loves Starcraft
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 23 2022 10:40 GMT
#159
On January 23 2022 19:24 whaski wrote:
Action has fallen far off, too much girlstreamers? Hopefully Bishop, Beast and Ruin can get paired with someone like omekim or Lolrang to get possible prestige and experience in ASL.

Lol no the real Action is still class and qualified yesterday already. That's just an amateur player with the word Action in his ID.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
January 23 2022 10:41 GMT
#160
So glad Sacsri, Shuttle, Guemchi, and ggaemo made it!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 23 2022 10:52 GMT
#161
Horang2 and Guemchi paths to ASL are so easy. All the players they beat are amateurs, and not even the strongest ones. I bet they didn't even expect themselves to qualify lol. Will be good for the views though.
2BearqLoza
Profile Joined December 2007
134 Posts
January 23 2022 11:00 GMT
#162
Just woke up, who are these two T playing ATM?
Any interesting games left to be played still?
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 11:01 GMT
#163
G1:Huro vs Sacsri
G2: BishOp vs PianO
G3: Hyun vs Shuttle
G4: Tyson vs Spire
G5: vs GuemChi
G6: vs Ggaemo
G7: Sharp vs Movie
G8: Horang2 vs
G9: Scan vs Beast
G10: Mong vs
G11: BarrackS vs nOOB
G12: sSak vs Speed

10 P 7 Z 7 T
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 11:01 GMT
#164
On January 23 2022 20:00 2BearqLoza wrote:
Just woke up, who are these two T playing ATM?
Any interesting games left to be played still?

sSak vs Speed

All groups done.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
January 23 2022 11:02 GMT
#165
On January 23 2022 20:00 2BearqLoza wrote:
Just woke up, who are these two T playing ATM?
Any interesting games left to be played still?

That was ssak winning vs speed (sexy) that we just saw. It was the last group for today.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
January 23 2022 11:04 GMT
#166
Shame Scan didn't qualify. I'm happy Shuttle gets through.
Artosis loves Starcraft
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 11:48:37
January 23 2022 11:44 GMT
#167
According to Shuttle:
Tier 1: Snow, Best, Rain, Soma, Light, Soulkey
Tier 2: Shuttle, Bisu, Action, Mong, JYJ, Royal
Tier 3: Ssak, Jaedong, Barrack, Horang2, Sacscri, Guemchi
Tier 4: Ggaemo, Ruin, Tyson, Bishop, Movie, Beast

Almost certainly there's gonna be a group of death with JD in tier 3.

But tbh, apart from JD the guys in tier 3 and 4 look hopeless against tier 1 and 2. Although I hate it, I guess that's why they have to stick with BO1 in R24 then. Otherwise just make a super tournament and invite the top 16 again and again.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
January 23 2022 11:48 GMT
#168
no free no pusan
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
January 23 2022 12:00 GMT
#169
Did anyone saw the ACS winners match? When and against who did he play?
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
January 23 2022 12:08 GMT
#170
Meanwhile Bisu stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/238460216
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 23 2022 12:12 GMT
#171
I'm going to be so happy to write about jaedong and bisu again, hope they do well.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 12:25:58
January 23 2022 12:13 GMT
#172
fucking hell.. we reall need that 8 more players expansion.. I think the playerbase is easily big enough and the skill level of the tournament wouldn't get hurt a bit.

good to see Horang2 (always liked his playstyle), Sacsri, Shuttle and Tyson back!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
January 23 2022 12:15 GMT
#173
On January 23 2022 21:08 Szinkler wrote:
Meanwhile Bisu stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/238460216

Seems like it's over already, it lasted only ~15mins. Anyone knows what he said? (other then apologizing of course, plans for future streams/asl?)
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
January 23 2022 12:35 GMT
#174
ASL 13 Map Pool:
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 23 2022 13:03 GMT
#175
^ I hope Metaverse and Monopoly will save this league!
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 23 2022 13:43 GMT
#176
On January 23 2022 21:15 Szinkler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 21:08 Szinkler wrote:
Meanwhile Bisu stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/238460216

Seems like it's over already, it lasted only ~15mins. Anyone knows what he said? (other then apologizing of course, plans for future streams/asl?)

He post a notice later saying broadcast starts at 2pm and it's well received by fans in the comment.

After all, he turned the stream on after 8 months and it instantly hit 30k viewers. Flash must be smiling in his military camp now.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5554 Posts
January 23 2022 13:44 GMT
#177
I quite like Vermeer and Metaverse. Monopoly is not bad either. I'm not a fan of Allegro, though. Wish they replaced it with Sky Bridge. Eclipse is good, but getting a bit old. Would be great if they replaced it with another map from the contest. Something like Kick Flip or Reflections. :-)
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 13:56:04
January 23 2022 13:50 GMT
#178
How come they get rid of Polypoid, the best map of the remastered era? I know it's been played to death but there's no harm in keeping a good, standard, balanced map.

Largo/Allegro is similar to Polypoid in base locations but the terrain makes it a PvZ graveyard. Not sure why keep it for 2 seasons in a row.
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
39 Posts
January 23 2022 14:03 GMT
#179
So Bisu's comeback has been well-received so far from what I gather?

And what about Effort? Did he participate in the qualifiers?
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
January 23 2022 14:11 GMT
#180
On January 23 2022 22:43 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 21:15 Szinkler wrote:
On January 23 2022 21:08 Szinkler wrote:
Meanwhile Bisu stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/238460216

Seems like it's over already, it lasted only ~15mins. Anyone knows what he said? (other then apologizing of course, plans for future streams/asl?)

He post a notice later saying broadcast starts at 2pm and it's well received by fans in the comment.

After all, he turned the stream on after 8 months and it instantly hit 30k viewers. Flash must be smiling in his military camp now.


Honestly, if Bisu spent these 8 months practicing, that's the best thing he could have done to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans imo. the best that he can do for brood war and the community is to show some good games in 2022.

The one i'm endlessly amazed with is Rain. The guy has been playing league, diablo and whatnot for two years, but then a little bit of SC practice - bam, you're in the ASL Ro.24.
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 15:16:40
January 23 2022 14:18 GMT
#181
On January 23 2022 22:03 bovienchien wrote:
^ I hope Metaverse and Monopoly will save this league!


Take a good look at Monopoly and the positional imbalances on it.. How is one to play simcity in ZvsZ from the bottom left position?
[image loading]

It will have some interesting games, we'll see who likes taking the island ;o
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Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-23 14:56:59
January 23 2022 14:55 GMT
#182
On January 23 2022 23:11 angryground wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 22:43 TMNT wrote:
On January 23 2022 21:15 Szinkler wrote:
On January 23 2022 21:08 Szinkler wrote:
Meanwhile Bisu stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/238460216

Seems like it's over already, it lasted only ~15mins. Anyone knows what he said? (other then apologizing of course, plans for future streams/asl?)

He post a notice later saying broadcast starts at 2pm and it's well received by fans in the comment.

After all, he turned the stream on after 8 months and it instantly hit 30k viewers. Flash must be smiling in his military camp now.


Honestly, if Bisu spent these 8 months practicing, that's the best thing he could have done to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans imo. the best that he can do for brood war and the community is to show some good games in 2022.

Thank you TMNT!

angryground: Agreed, and I really hope he did that. I guess we will see in ro24 if that is what Bisu did in those 8 months.

All in all great qualifiers, let's hope ASL14 will be an offline event with even more players!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 23 2022 15:39 GMT
#183
On January 23 2022 21:35 MineraIs wrote:
ASL 13 Map Pool:
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13

what the fuck.. why did they kick Sky Bridge off? that sucks major balls.. always some bizarre decisions coming last second.. at least Butter is still in..

very disappointing nonetheless

Vermeer has an AMD logo in the middle, btw. interesting.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
January 23 2022 16:15 GMT
#184
On January 23 2022 19:40 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 19:24 whaski wrote:
Action has fallen far off, too much girlstreamers? Hopefully Bishop, Beast and Ruin can get paired with someone like omekim or Lolrang to get possible prestige and experience in ASL.

Lol no the real Action is still class and qualified yesterday already. That's just an amateur player with the word Action in his ID.


Oh I see. Was quite spooked with that muta-allin. Quite intresting that there are so many protosses around, zergs must be quite happy with the results.
it's not just a music it's something else
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1023 Posts
January 23 2022 17:36 GMT
#185
Tyson looking great lately, happy for players like ggaemo, guemchi and of course both jaedong and rain.

Unfortunately, i was hoping to see piano in ASL again. I really dont understand how Movie still manage to sneak into RO28. He must be bribing somebody somewhere...
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
January 23 2022 18:19 GMT
#186
On January 24 2022 02:36 TornadoSteve wrote:
Tyson looking great lately, happy for players like ggaemo, guemchi and of course both jaedong and rain.

Unfortunately, i was hoping to see piano in ASL again. I really dont understand how Movie still manage to sneak into RO28. He must be bribing somebody somewhere...


Sharp played awful against Movie.
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
January 23 2022 18:26 GMT
#187
Holybats, thank you for all the updates!
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 23 2022 18:43 GMT
#188
On January 24 2022 03:19 HOLYBATS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 02:36 TornadoSteve wrote:
Tyson looking great lately, happy for players like ggaemo, guemchi and of course both jaedong and rain.

Unfortunately, i was hoping to see piano in ASL again. I really dont understand how Movie still manage to sneak into RO28. He must be bribing somebody somewhere...


Sharp played awful against Movie.

Sharp continuing his recent competition history of choking, remember he crashed out in ASL12 Ro. 24 by losing to Noob twice

looking at sponbbang stats from last 6 months (https://sponbbang.com/profile/?month1=2021-08&month2=2022-01&map_id=0&bj_id=6), he was 32-16 (67%) over Movie - serious choke to lose 0-2 when 2 of the qual maps are decent for Terran

other funny stats:

vs qualified Ps
4-0 (100%) vs Guemchi
26-1 (96%) vs Horang2
56-19 (75%) vs Tyson
6-2 (75%) vs Rain

vs qualified Zs
23-4 (85%) vs ggaemo
16-6 (73%) vs Sacsri
27-14 (66%) against Action
(also 2-1 vs JD and 2-0 vs beast)

this dude has the physical tools but probably needs both a coach and a sports psychologist, his weak mentality needs a lot of work
Return
Profile Joined June 2005
Ivory Coast856 Posts
January 23 2022 21:37 GMT
#189
On January 23 2022 20:44 TMNT wrote:
According to Shuttle:
Tier 1: Snow, Best, Rain, Soma, Light, Soulkey
Tier 2: Shuttle, Bisu, Action, Mong, JYJ, Royal
Tier 3: Ssak, Jaedong, Barrack, Horang2, Sacscri, Guemchi
Tier 4: Ggaemo, Ruin, Tyson, Bishop, Movie, Beast

Almost certainly there's gonna be a group of death with JD in tier 3.

But tbh, apart from JD the guys in tier 3 and 4 look hopeless against tier 1 and 2. Although I hate it, I guess that's why they have to stick with BO1 in R24 then. Otherwise just make a super tournament and invite the top 16 again and again.


Think ssak and barracks also can vibe with some t1/t2s
Diiiscoo-oh, thats where the happy people go!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 06:23:20
January 24 2022 05:49 GMT
#190
Choking Expectations:
JD May upset any of T1 or T2 player.
Tier 1:
Best can choke against good z.Also p's may cheese him like Mini did at ASL 11 R8.
SK may choke to z also.
Tier 2:
Shuttle gonna choke.I can bet on it.
Mong and JYJ is not reliable on PVT.P's may upset. I don't watch TVT maybe some T's also.

Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States649 Posts
January 24 2022 06:49 GMT
#191
Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 24 2022 11:43 GMT
#192
On January 24 2022 15:49 Katkishka wrote:
Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all.

check out this thread https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/584057-new-worlds-map-contest-2-top-12-submissions

Sky Bridge got top 12 of this map contest
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MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 14:39:32
January 24 2022 14:37 GMT
#193
On January 24 2022 00:39 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2022 21:35 MineraIs wrote:
ASL 13 Map Pool:
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13

what the fuck.. why did they kick Sky Bridge off? that sucks major balls.. always some bizarre decisions coming last second.. at least Butter is still in..

very disappointing nonetheless

Vermeer has an AMD logo in the middle, btw. interesting.


AMD sponsored LatiAs to create a map with input help from herO, Rush, Mini to create the next popular standard map, and this is the creation. Hopefully we'll see an update from version 1.1 before official games.


On January 24 2022 15:49 Katkishka wrote:
Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all.


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929951923631710218/933000706976251974/3SkyBridge_0.96.zip
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 24 2022 16:05 GMT
#194
On January 24 2022 23:37 MineraIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 00:39 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On January 23 2022 21:35 MineraIs wrote:
ASL 13 Map Pool:
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13

what the fuck.. why did they kick Sky Bridge off? that sucks major balls.. always some bizarre decisions coming last second.. at least Butter is still in..

very disappointing nonetheless

Vermeer has an AMD logo in the middle, btw. interesting.


AMD sponsored LatiAs to create a map with input help from herO, Rush, Mini to create the next popular standard map, and this is the creation. Hopefully we'll see an update from version 1.1 before official games.


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 15:49 Katkishka wrote:
Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all.


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929951923631710218/933000706976251974/3SkyBridge_0.96.zip

wow.. really? AMD sponsored a BW mapmaker to replace/equal the popularity of FS/Polypoid? that's very interesting.. map looks decent, hopefully it'll deliver many great games

still mad that they kicked Sky Bridge and left Monopoly in though..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 24 2022 18:56 GMT
#195
do we know when will the ro28 groups be drawn, btw?
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5554 Posts
January 24 2022 20:29 GMT
#196
On January 25 2022 01:05 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2022 23:37 MineraIs wrote:
On January 24 2022 00:39 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On January 23 2022 21:35 MineraIs wrote:
ASL 13 Map Pool:
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13

what the fuck.. why did they kick Sky Bridge off? that sucks major balls.. always some bizarre decisions coming last second.. at least Butter is still in..

very disappointing nonetheless

Vermeer has an AMD logo in the middle, btw. interesting.


AMD sponsored LatiAs to create a map with input help from herO, Rush, Mini to create the next popular standard map, and this is the creation. Hopefully we'll see an update from version 1.1 before official games.


On January 24 2022 15:49 Katkishka wrote:
Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all.


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929951923631710218/933000706976251974/3SkyBridge_0.96.zip

wow.. really? AMD sponsored a BW mapmaker to replace/equal the popularity of FS/Polypoid? that's very interesting.. map looks decent, hopefully it'll deliver many great games

still mad that they kicked Sky Bridge and left Monopoly in though..

Is there any chance they bring it back? It's a really cool map. Allegro, on the other hand, looks very generic. :<
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 20:56:43
January 24 2022 20:55 GMT
#197
On January 25 2022 05:29 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2022 01:05 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On January 24 2022 23:37 MineraIs wrote:
On January 24 2022 00:39 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On January 23 2022 21:35 MineraIs wrote:
ASL 13 Map Pool:
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13

what the fuck.. why did they kick Sky Bridge off? that sucks major balls.. always some bizarre decisions coming last second.. at least Butter is still in..

very disappointing nonetheless

Vermeer has an AMD logo in the middle, btw. interesting.


AMD sponsored LatiAs to create a map with input help from herO, Rush, Mini to create the next popular standard map, and this is the creation. Hopefully we'll see an update from version 1.1 before official games.


On January 24 2022 15:49 Katkishka wrote:
Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all.


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929951923631710218/933000706976251974/3SkyBridge_0.96.zip

wow.. really? AMD sponsored a BW mapmaker to replace/equal the popularity of FS/Polypoid? that's very interesting.. map looks decent, hopefully it'll deliver many great games

still mad that they kicked Sky Bridge and left Monopoly in though..

Is there any chance they bring it back? It's a really cool map. Allegro, on the other hand, looks very generic. :<

at this moment? no chance unfortunately..

Allegro is generic af and Monopoly looks awful and kinda amateurish, tbh.. Sky Bridge looks so much better it's not even funny.

Typical ASL last moment shenanigans
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 21:31:09
January 24 2022 21:29 GMT
#198
Commentator
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 24 2022 22:12 GMT
#199
https://twitter.com/afreecaTV_gl/status/1485736477195587584/photo/1
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
January 25 2022 09:28 GMT
#200
No group of death tho

[image loading]
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 25 2022 10:28 GMT
#201
On January 25 2022 18:28 TMNT wrote:
No group of death tho

[image loading]

thx for posting this

F looking the strongest, imo
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 25 2022 10:36 GMT
#202
just a little mention: Bingsu is Horang2
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 25 2022 10:46 GMT
#203
OK! Let's analyze a bit:

Group A: If Best doesn't chock on Beast, I'll go with him , but I can't predict second place to save my life.

Group B: Light and Bisu. Bisu has still amazing PvZ and very strong PvP also.

Group C: Rain and Action (pretty easy to call this one).

Group D: Snow and Royal (also easy)

Group E: Soma and JyJ

Group F: JAEDONG (PLEASEEEEE ) and SK
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
January 25 2022 12:23 GMT
#204
F is 100% the group of death. Fingers crossed for JD!
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
January 25 2022 13:39 GMT
#205
the whole ro24 will be played within 2 weeks? Pretty cool imo

i like group c and e the most, rooting for either sSak or Ruin to upset JyJ or soma
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1685 Posts
January 25 2022 15:32 GMT
#206
RAIN IS BACK MOTHER FUCKERS LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
January 25 2022 18:21 GMT
#207
shame it's still a full bo1 for ro24.. wish they did bo1/bo1/bo3/bo3/bo3 at least like for ro16..
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1023 Posts
January 25 2022 19:43 GMT
#208
e>f and i dont think its near to be close.
btw, movie is the real movie guy.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 25 2022 20:06 GMT
#209
Where are mini and Rush???
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
psyCrowe
Profile Joined December 2007
Scotland195 Posts
January 25 2022 20:25 GMT
#210
On January 26 2022 05:06 Zoler wrote:
Where are mini and Rush???

Because they are finalists from ASL12 they are exempt from participation from ASL13.

+ Show Spoiler +
Only joking, top 4 (Mini, Rush, Hero & Zero) all get seeded into ro16
sadego
Profile Joined September 2019
10 Posts
January 25 2022 20:52 GMT
#211
On January 25 2022 19:46 prosatan wrote:
OK! Let's analyze a bit:

Group A: If Best doesn't chock on Beast, I'll go with him , but I can't predict second place to save my life.

Group B: Light and Bisu. Bisu has still amazing PvZ and very strong PvP also.

Group C: Rain and Action (pretty easy to call this one).

Group D: Snow and Royal (also easy)

Group E: Soma and JyJ

Group F: JAEDONG (PLEASEEEEE ) and SK


Thanks for telling us the tier 1 and 2 players will advance.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 25 2022 21:05 GMT
#212
On January 26 2022 05:52 sadego wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2022 19:46 prosatan wrote:
OK! Let's analyze a bit:

Group A: If Best doesn't chock on Beast, I'll go with him , but I can't predict second place to save my life.

Group B: Light and Bisu. Bisu has still amazing PvZ and very strong PvP also.

Group C: Rain and Action (pretty easy to call this one).

Group D: Snow and Royal (also easy)

Group E: Soma and JyJ

Group F: JAEDONG (PLEASEEEEE ) and SK


Thanks for telling us the tier 1 and 2 players will advance.

JD is tier 3

But he will be tier 1
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1023 Posts
January 25 2022 22:54 GMT
#213
Barracks // Best
Light // Tyson
Rain // Action
SnOw // sOrry
Ruin // sSak
Soulkey // Jaedong
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
January 25 2022 23:13 GMT
#214
Mong and Movie are weak atm, should be easy for SK and JD.

But then again it's Bo1, so yeah..
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1011 Posts
January 25 2022 23:21 GMT
#215
Can we all appreciate how BeSt is the only player who has participated in every single ASL? He may never have been the best of his race, but he's pretty damn consistent. I think he had to qualify to all of them as well.
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
January 26 2022 01:40 GMT
#216
Group E is no joke and my choice for group of death - Soma is the clear favorite, but JYJ is strong and has been solid. Ssak can be good for surprises (as in recent proleague games) and Ruin has been a pleasant surprise in the last few AS(T)L-showings.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-26 02:28:37
January 26 2022 02:15 GMT
#217
Best // Barracks : Best should take the revenge from Beast. Barracks is in form.
Light // Bisu : Clear favs.
Rain // Action : Action is not so reliable but not in this group.
Snow // Royal : Clear favs.
Soma // Ruin : Ruin is also in form.I expect him over T's.
JD // SK : Clear favs.


rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-26 02:17:47
January 26 2022 02:17 GMT
#218
On January 25 2022 19:46 prosatan wrote:
OK! Let's analyze a bit:

Group A: If Best doesn't chock on Beast, I'll go with him , but I can't predict second place to save my life.

Group B: Light and Bisu. Bisu has still amazing PvZ and very strong PvP also.

Group C: Rain and Action (pretty easy to call this one).

Group D: Snow and Royal (also easy)

Group E: Soma and JyJ

Group F: JAEDONG (PLEASEEEEE ) and SK


I agree with this list!

A is perhaps the weakest group. Besides Best, Shuttle may have the best shot, but his performances can be shaky.

Bisu can make it in Group B. Maps and strats might decide a few games tho.

In C, Action should come out on top - really looking forward to seeing Rain play.
Aswell as JD!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
January 26 2022 03:21 GMT
#219
On January 26 2022 08:21 Freezard wrote:
Can we all appreciate how BeSt is the only player who has participated in every single ASL? He may never have been the best of his race, but he's pretty damn consistent. I think he had to qualify to all of them as well.


Yeah that's very impressive, hopefully he can at least make the semis this time.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 26 2022 08:07 GMT
#220
On January 26 2022 08:21 Freezard wrote:
Can we all appreciate how BeSt is the only player who has participated in every single ASL? He may never have been the best of his race, but he's pretty damn consistent. I think he had to qualify to all of them as well.

Good call Freezard! Doh Jae Wook fighting!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 26 2022 11:14 GMT
#221
A: Shuttle, BarrackS
B: Light, Bisu
C: Rain, Action
D: Snow, RoyaL
E: Soma, JyJ
F: Soulkey, Jaedong
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
January 26 2022 12:27 GMT
#222
A: Best + Shuttle
B: Light + Bisu
C: Rain + Action
D: Royal + Snow
E: Ruin + JyJ
F: Soulkey + Mong
;-)
never too old for starcraft :)
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
January 27 2022 18:15 GMT
#223
I love that Rain is seeded T1 when he's been gone for 2 years (not that's out of shape, but kind of goes to show how well he performed in ASL before)

I think it's unlikely we see upsets from these groups, I just hope BarrackS and JD get out!
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5554 Posts
January 27 2022 18:52 GMT
#224
A: Best, Shuttle
B: Light, Bisu
C: Action, Rain
D: Royal, Snow
E: Soma, sSak
F: SK, JD
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 27 2022 19:51 GMT
#225
Holy yikes! You really tell me that this season gonna include Rain, JD and Bisu?
sunbeams are never made like me...
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1752 Posts
January 27 2022 21:43 GMT
#226
Can't wait! Wish someone has the VODs for the qualifiers.
Leee Jaee Doong
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-27 21:54:55
January 27 2022 21:54 GMT
#227
On January 26 2022 08:21 Freezard wrote:
Can we all appreciate how BeSt is the only player who has participated in every single ASL? He may never have been the best of his race, but he's pretty damn consistent. I think he had to qualify to all of them as well.

Thanks for pointing it out!
May the BeSt man win.
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
449 Posts
January 28 2022 09:54 GMT
#228
Hyped! So first round of 24 match will be on 08/02 (Tuesday), correct?
Stork no...... (((
Broodwar Forever
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
January 31 2022 12:59 GMT
#229
On January 28 2022 06:43 polgas wrote:
Can't wait! Wish someone has the VODs for the qualifiers.


Hello, here.
https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82857256

https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82898258
never too old for starcraft :)
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1752 Posts
January 31 2022 17:37 GMT
#230
On January 31 2022 21:59 Destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2022 06:43 polgas wrote:
Can't wait! Wish someone has the VODs for the qualifiers.


Hello, here.
https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82857256

https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82898258


Thanks!!
Leee Jaee Doong
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
38 Posts
January 31 2022 23:29 GMT
#231
I hope JD will recover on time from covid and prepare for group stage.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States677 Posts
February 01 2022 00:02 GMT
#232
A: Shuttle, Barracks
B: Light, Tyson
C: Action, Horang2
D: Snow, ggaemo
E: Soma, Ssak
F: Soulkey, Movie

Tyson looking like a beast recently.

Most excited to see Horang2
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
39 Posts
February 03 2022 23:58 GMT
#233
Horangeeeeee
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
February 04 2022 09:53 GMT
#234
oh those maps look gooood
POGGERS
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
February 04 2022 12:40 GMT
#235
On February 04 2022 18:53 konadora wrote:
oh those maps look gooood

already lot of great games on them, too. progamers using them for their late night proleague. Mini uploads all the matches on his YT channel. Recommended watch.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
ggnore13
Profile Joined May 2015
54 Posts
February 04 2022 19:05 GMT
#236
On February 04 2022 21:40 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2022 18:53 konadora wrote:
oh those maps look gooood

already lot of great games on them, too. progamers using them for their late night proleague. Mini uploads all the matches on his YT channel. Recommended watch.


Could you link that?
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
February 04 2022 19:23 GMT
#237
Mini's YT
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk1NTIlGP27bQEumkw6sDVA
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
February 06 2022 09:17 GMT
#238
On February 05 2022 04:05 ggnore13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2022 21:40 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On February 04 2022 18:53 konadora wrote:
oh those maps look gooood

already lot of great games on them, too. progamers using them for their late night proleague. Mini uploads all the matches on his YT channel. Recommended watch.


Could you link that?

he uploads the gamees here -->

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTJFcLnX5FpjCUWH4VOkxEg/videos
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
February 06 2022 17:49 GMT
#239
Is bisu participating? Really? My heart!!!
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