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Ziggy
South Korea2083 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/iHnvRiB.png) https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/82394125 Everything same as last time. Qualifier sign-up till 19/01 Sign-up form Qualifier #1 (online): 22/01 (12 slots) Qualifier #2 (online): 23/01 (12 slots) Qualifier mappool: Polypoid, Eclipse, FS Broadcast schedule: 08/02 (Tuesday) - 09/04 (Saturday), every Tuesday + Wednesday @ 1900KST (live from the FreecUP Studio) NEW ASL MAPS (subject to change): https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13 (미정) 
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Ctesias
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masoka82
Spain275 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1584 Posts
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oxKnu
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I think they are not that bad for Protoss, for once! | ||
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prosatan
Romania6224 Posts
On January 12 2022 18:46 masoka82 wrote: H-Y-P-E !! I hope I can see Jaedong again in the highest YES!  | ||
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prosatan
Romania6224 Posts
On January 12 2022 23:31 ShowTheLights wrote: RAIN PLEASE RETURN This too I want !!  | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
ASL always a pleasure to watch, glad it's finally back | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
Hope Rain does come back because with Stork not competing anymore there's a huge skill gap after the big 3 of Mini, Best and Snow... it's kind of ridiculous that either YSC or Ruin is in the conversation as a top 5 competitive Protoss | ||
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Optimate
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1680 Posts
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FT.aCt)Sony
United States985 Posts
On January 13 2022 04:17 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Is jaedong participating? Yes he will be doing Qualifiers as far as I've heard him say on his stream lately. He is pretty excited to test where he's at and see how he fairs. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2699 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2618 Posts
Edit: Also hyped for the Jaedong man and the Snow man, any of those three would be amazing. | ||
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QOGQOG
504 Posts
On January 13 2022 07:42 Djabanete wrote: May the BeSt man win. Edit: Also hyped for the Jaedong man and the Snow man, any of those three would be amazing. After Mini's two time runner up finally turned into a victory, I hope Snow can do the same. Anyway, great to have ASL back. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
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oxKnu
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES47079 Posts
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Pippah
Denmark344 Posts
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outscar
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QOGQOG
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NoS-Craig
Australia3016 Posts
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psyCrowe
Scotland188 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2083 Posts
On January 14 2022 10:57 QOGQOG wrote: Are they doing ACS again? yes, finals this sunday | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
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[JXSA].Zergling
China106 Posts
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omahahowitzer
United States90 Posts
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote: Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player. Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster | ||
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TMNT
325 Posts
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote: Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster That's not Best "recently" (as in he has improved/been in top form recently). He has always been like that, playing like a god today then choking hard the next. This time last year he was regularly crushing Flash. One thing is for sure, he's more likely to play like a god when sitting in his chair at home rather than in the studio. | ||
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weiliem
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TMNT
325 Posts
Based on his games vs other top pros recently, he's comfortably a top 16 player. And that's without serious practice. Such a shame him, Last and Larva all retired. They're not even old compared to other currently active players. | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova121 Posts
vs Sorry no chances for Sorry, Rain was POWERFUL, now play vs Mong, same no chances for Mong Rain without any serious practice look like member minimum 1/8 ASL 13 | ||
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bracala
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
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Ideas
United States7801 Posts
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote: Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again. Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha. | ||
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QOGQOG
504 Posts
On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote: In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again. Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha. I don't know you can really lump Snow together with Best. Where Best just seems hard stuck at the Round of 8, Snow has made the finals twice. Unfortunately, hitting peak Rain and peak Flash meant he lost pretty bad both times. Still, I'd love to see either of them take it this season. | ||
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omahahowitzer
United States90 Posts
On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote: In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again. Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha. ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't. | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova121 Posts
Jaedong is training last weeks Sea training today TvT vs Shinee Slogan ASL13 = Old School Come Back? By the way - why Shinee (T) does not qualify on ASL?? not allowed or?? | ||
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Kespa1988
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TMNT
325 Posts
T: Rush Light Royal P: Best Mini Snow Z: Queen Soma Hero Soulkey After that the level drops off a bit with the likes of JYJ, Sharp, Action, Effort, and maybe Shuttle (depending on how serious he is, I feel). Jaedong is doing good, he probably belongs to this group and will qualify easily. So is Rain. But I feel their chances will be better if they don't have to play ZvT and PvZ. | ||
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Brainojack
Canada186 Posts
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FunkyDragoon
11 Posts
[QUOTE]On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote: [QUOTE]On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote: [QUOTE]On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote: Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.[/QUOTE] ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't. [/QUOTE] I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream. Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc. This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
Big leagues create storylines and legacies though.. this is why it was always the most important aspect of the competitive scene of any game but 1v1 games especially. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 20 2022 00:23 TMNT wrote: There's a clear top 10 in the Korean scene these days, that means you don't really have a clear favorite when any of these guys face each other: T: Rush Light Royal P: Best Mini Snow Z: Queen Soma Hero Soulkey After that the level drops off a bit with the likes of JYJ, Sharp, Action, Effort, and maybe Shuttle (depending on how serious he is, I feel). Jaedong is doing good, he probably belongs to this group and will qualify easily. So is Rain. But I feel their chances will be better if they don't have to play ZvT and PvZ. yes the top 10 are the core members of the online "major proleague" Rain and Jaedong aren't really major proleague level at the current moment since they're rusty, but they have so much class that they can easily hang w the top 10 if they put in the time Royal is the one shooting up the ranks competing w Rush for 2nd best Terran (Rush's form dipping a bit since ASL) Even that group right outside the top 10 aren't at the same level, in my opinion there's a gap with Effort / Sharp higher than Action / JYJ,/ sSak / Shuttle Terran and Zerg have decent depth outside top 10 but Protoss is still too top heavy even if you put Rain back in the mix | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't. I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream. Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc. This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here. I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot. sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL | ||
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Patasti
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TMNT
325 Posts
On January 20 2022 06:04 Patasti wrote: Is there any coverage of these proleagues? Mini has all of them in full videos on his channel (obviously only the ones he participated in ) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTJFcLnX5FpjCUWH4VOkxEg/videos There's just too much content to digest really. | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 20 2022 06:04 Patasti wrote: Is there any coverage of these proleagues? Just look at the live streams around 8-10pm korean time, no one is really casting it, you have 4 people on a team, 1 plays while the other 3 do discord commentary while observing Sharp usually participated in the most proleagues, so his stream used to be a safe bet for proleague content, but now that he's doing college content I would say the safest bets are Soma or Mini's streams | ||
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FunkyDragoon
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 20 2022 07:29 FunkyDragoon wrote: What does "college content" mean? pretty long discussion of it here https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/582515-is-jaedong-back | ||
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FunkyDragoon
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redknights
35 Posts
Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers | ||
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prosatan
Romania6224 Posts
On January 21 2022 02:59 redknights wrote: https://bj.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/post/82794186 Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers OMG! Big news right here redknights  I'll be watching for sure even if i don't understand a word haha  | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On January 21 2022 02:59 redknights wrote: https://bj.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/post/82794186 Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers good to hear hope he'll be forgiven same as Flash and we can move on from this. | ||
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Szinkler
Hungary346 Posts
Great news anyways! (hoping the stream will continue of course in the coming days, weeks, years...) | ||
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Kespa1988
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FunkyDragoon
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Dante08
Singapore4024 Posts
On January 20 2022 05:43 redknights wrote: ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't. I agree with this. I think for many of the seasoned progamers ASL is not as important as it may seem to the casual viewer. I watch their 4:4 proleagues regularly and it seems they really care about winning these because it means fan support / higher viewership / prize money for winning the sets. And it's not peanuts either, I remember Snow was really sad on stream once and the Koreans in chat told me it's because they could have won 4K USD (!). That's for one proleague, just some games played on stream. Come to think of it, streaming and playing proleagues and sponsored BO3/BO5 or other showmatches is where the real and regular money is. ASL takes place twice a year and the money is not really that great until you make it to the higher rounds. Plus in the end, ASL is just a series. Anyone can have a better or worse day. It's not really indicative of skill just because someone got defeated early. Best is a good example like some people here said. He got eliminated from the last ASL in the round of 24 I believe and still he regularly beats players like Rush, Hero etc. This is obviously just my take on this, but I don't think I'm far off here. I think the 4K USD is an outlier, most of the online proleagues are in the range of 4000 to 10000 star balloons (roughly $400-$1000 USD) per person. If it even reaches $500 a person, the pros call it a big pot. sponsored BO3/BO5 tend to top out at $30 and $50 USD respectively But let's be real here, the big bucks money has now shifted to college content. There used to be multiple proleagues run nightly, but these days it's hard to even get 1 running. Only Light, Queen, Soma, Mini, and Soulkey are left for top players not involved at all w college content. Even Rush and Sharp, who were previously reluctant to be involved in college stuff, are now fully on board. They probably saw how much money others were making and didn't want to miss out The silver lining is that college content is probably the main reason we have players like Rain and Sea coming back to try and qualify for ASL Maybe Microsoft pumps in cash for ASL one day, one can hope! | ||
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Lazyer
United States181 Posts
On January 21 2022 02:59 redknights wrote: https://bj.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/post/82794186 Bisu just announced he's streaming on Sunday 9pm Korean time to apologize for Coingate I wonder if there's any chance he's signed up for ASL13 qualifiers i want him to come back and DT rush his way thru quals again :3 | ||
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DiMiaN
Finland255 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
I think if he continues streaming, it will be ASL commentary and college content first. Whether or not he will play competitive BW remains to be seen. | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 21 2022 14:47 Dante08 wrote: Maybe Microsoft pumps in cash for ASL one day, one can hope! Does anyone know if Microsoft as a company is disgustingly rich or is that just Bill Gates | ||
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EagleEagle
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EAGS | ||
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Ideas
United States7801 Posts
On January 21 2022 23:01 redknights wrote: Does anyone know if Microsoft as a company is disgustingly rich or is that just Bill Gates Microsoft has about $2 trillion net worth. I don't think the acquisition will really affect BW at all in the short-mid term. Chances for a SC3 are more likely in the next 5-10 years though as the current Xbox division seems to like to have more PC-focused games on game pass (see their recent funding on AoE4). | ||
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bracala
73 Posts
On January 22 2022 00:48 EagleEagle wrote: Is anyone going to do a stream of the quals? Any information on this, yall? EAGS Since its online qualifications they cast replays live when they receive them. Stream will be on Afreeca. It would be nice if someone can post in what time will stream start and why there is still no update on liquipedia page for ASL S13? | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2083 Posts
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oxKnu
1050 Posts
https://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1 Unfortunately I have no idea why on TL this link doesn't pop up all the time when it has a BW event, since most of them are known beforehand and I've seen that happen for other streams. | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 21 2022 20:34 TMNT wrote: If he wants to play this ASL he would have come back a while ago. No way he just registered and play qualifiers without apologizing to fans first. I think if he continues streaming, it will be ASL commentary and college content first. Whether or not he will play competitive BW remains to be seen. On the Korean message boards, the rumblings are that Bisu has signed up and is in group #7 with Stork, who also apparently signed up too Source (Shuttle's stream): https://www.fmkorea.com/index.php?mid=starcraft&document_srl=4271632172 So if this is true, Sharp is also in Group 7 making it a tough group (obviously depending on how much Bisu and Stork have actually practiced) Another rumored tough group is Group 1 with Soma and Soulkey both in it Edit: besides Rain and Jaedong, lesser players who have rumored to have signed up (some after long absences): Sea, Calm, Horang2, Guemchi. Hiya, Nal_rA, Pusan | ||
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TMNT
325 Posts
So how the hell we have group 1 with Soma + Soulkey, group 2 with Light + JYJ, group 7 with Sharp + Bisu + Stork, but group 6 contains 3 retirees in Sea Hiya Guemchi and Scan? You telling me none of the second seeded player in group 1 2 or 7 have a higher ASL coefficient than the rest of group 6? | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
You could make the case that Rain, Jaedong and Shuttle (also popular streamers) were given easy groups too but you're right, it's a farce that the two strongest Zergs are in the same group, and these two are legitimate championship contenders.... Soulkey should have been put in group 4, 5, or 6. Action in Group 4 is way below Soma in current form and Group 5's strongest potential member is sSak | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
Group 5 might be more of a joke than Group 6 now Also of note (?) Artosis in Group 1 also | ||
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redknights
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Djabanete
United States2618 Posts
It is good that I am not a betting man. Best, Jaedong, Snow, Nal_rA fighting! | ||
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redknights
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TMNT
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 22 2022 10:26 TMNT wrote: Yeah I'm watching Rush's stream right now. Looks like the information from Shuttle are not all correct. Soma in group 5 instead. Maybe JYJ in group 6 as well? Now it makes more sense. haha Rush says absolutely no chance group 6 gets disturbed, Afreeca will want one of Sea or Guemchi for viewership purposes | ||
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sadego
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Dante08
Singapore4024 Posts
On January 21 2022 23:01 redknights wrote: Does anyone know if Microsoft as a company is disgustingly rich or is that just Bill Gates Microsoft is disgustingly rich, they have like $200-300b in cash. Anyway Stork is playing this ASL? Thought he retired from tournaments. | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 22 2022 10:32 Dante08 wrote: Microsoft is disgustingly rich, they have like $200-300b in cash. Anyway Stork is playing this ASL? Thought he retired from tournaments. He never ruled out returning, he just wanted to take time after ASL to grow his YouTube channel (probably trying to fill the void from Last going to military) and do other content There's also talk that his wife signed him up for ASL and he might not even show up | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
nice job Afreeca | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1769 Posts
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hiro protagonist
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redknights
35 Posts
This looks super unbalanced compared to some other groups Sharp is nominally the seeded player and I think he will make it out but they did him dirrrrrty - even if Bisu and Stork are rusty, it's still PvT, cross spawn nexus first and any Terran is half-dead already | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
Found. https://challonge.com/users/asl_s13/tournaments.html | ||
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angryground
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Piste
6069 Posts
On January 22 2022 13:08 redknights wrote: Group 7 does have Bisu, Stork and Sharp along with Miso This looks super unbalanced compared to some other groups Sharp is nominally the seeded player and I think he will make it out but they did him dirrrrrty - even if Bisu and Stork are rusty, it's still PvT, cross spawn nexus first and any Terran is half-dead already sharp ain't any D-level terran tho. | ||
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angryground
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
Bisu vs MisO is playing on AfreecaTV. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
G2:Light vs 815 G3:Rain vs Barracks G4:Action vs Midas G5:Huro vs Soma G6: Scan VS JYJ G7:Bisu vs Sharp G8: Pusan vs JD G9: Hyuk vs Royal G10: Mong vs Best G11: Ss1nz vs Ruin G12: Snow vs Shine | ||
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angryground
20 Posts
aaaaaand, he didn't. Mighty Scan crushing through! | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3016 Posts
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angryground
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Lazyer
United States181 Posts
And holy shit Pusan going up against JD in Group 8?? What year is it LOL (i also hope leta comes thru day2, he had some fun ideas in the last asl) | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
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Lazyer
United States181 Posts
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angryground
20 Posts
On January 22 2022 18:06 Lazyer wrote: Can't believe I'm watching Rain build scouts against Barracks lmao. What the hell? | ||
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jtkirk
31 Posts
He threw that game away, even moved out with zealots 10 seconds before speed finished. Not a big deal, he is making a comeback in game 3, dominating Barracks even after loosing 3rd. | ||
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TMNT
325 Posts
Can't believe we're seeing this after the mass retirements after ASL11 and 12. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
Royal,SK,Soma,Light All qualified. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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TMNT
325 Posts
Top 8 seeded into R32 seems like a better format. The current seeding format gives too much privilege to the top 4 of last season for me, especially the winner. Win 3 games against opponents you handpick and you're through to R8. Surely if you're one of the best you should be able to make it to R8 from R32 and don't need a shortcut. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
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Elsi
United Kingdom8171 Posts
Breakdown of all results would be appreciated! | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
On January 22 2022 16:02 HOLYBATS wrote: G1:SK VS Sacsri G2:Light vs 815 G3:Rain vs Barracks G4:Action vs Midas G5:Huro vs Soma G6: Scan VS JYJ G7:Bisu vs Sharp G8: Pusan vs JD G9: Hyuk vs Royal G10: Mong vs Best G11: Ss1nz vs Ruin G12: Snow vs Shine 5 P 4 Z 3 T | ||
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TMNT
325 Posts
P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso | ||
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bracala
73 Posts
Would be awesome if we can see Larva and Nada tommorow in qualifications but i know its slim chances for that! | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1025 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4024 Posts
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Ikirouta
Finland709 Posts
 Tomorrow is another day, lets go Spirit Toss! | ||
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Ikirouta
Finland709 Posts
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote: Notable players who played today but did not qualify: P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso did free not try to qualify? | ||
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SpaNiarD
Spain307 Posts
Nice to see Bisu and Rain back!! | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote: Notable players who played today but did not qualify: P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso crazy list.. expansion is a must for real! | ||
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Kespa1988
4 Posts
On January 23 2022 00:37 SpaNiarD wrote: Is Midas the Midas from T1? I though that guy was sooooo retired. He is still streaming. You can check his porfile on afreecatv. | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote: Notable players who played today but did not qualify: P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso only "upsets" were Ruin over Shuttle and maybe Bisu over Sharp, everyone else expected to go through did this means Day 2 qualifying should be a total breeze for any high-level player left Stork, Shuttle, Sharp, Ssak, Mong, Sacsri seem like locks to make it in Afreeca will probably jigger the groups again so that popular streamers like Guemchi, Horang2, Sea, Leta and Calm have easy paths | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
Bisu and Stork aren't D-level protosses either, even the top top Terrans say that cross-spawn nexus first is a "sagi" build giving Terran a big disadvantage with no real counter. Even on maps like Revolver, if the Protoss spawns horizontal from you and do nexus first, some pro Terrans say it's too risky to do the cheese rush w SCVs Anyway the end result w Bisu, Sharp got his gas stolen on Eclipse on Game 2 and then died to cross-spawn nexus first on FS - where nexus first is not good for Protoss unless it's cross spawn due to small rush distances - in Game 3 (then complained about group balance lmfao) | ||
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Essbee
Canada2370 Posts
On January 23 2022 00:37 SpaNiarD wrote: Is Midas the Midas from T1? I though that guy was sooooo retired. Nice to see Bisu and Rain back!! Midas plays quite a lot, everyday. https://play.afreecatv.com/isangwk/228091865 | ||
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TMNT
325 Posts
Yeah he didn't, But last season he only popped up from day 2, so we'll see. I reckon the reason was that his wrist can't sustain 2 days of consecutive playing at the highest level, so better save it for the day with the higher chance. | ||
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zegarruela
Peru7 Posts
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote: Notable players who played today but did not qualify: P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso Dandy(T) in Group 11, best player Latam | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1281 Posts
On January 22 2022 21:37 TMNT wrote: Notable players who played today but did not qualify: P: Stork, Shuttle, Movie, YSC, Ss1nz, Guemchi, Horang2, Mighty, Pusan T: Sharp,Ssak, Mong, Barrack, Sea, Scan, Sexy, Leta, Ample.... Artosis Z: 815, Sacsri, Calm, Hyuk, Hyun, Shine, Killer, Beast, Ggaemo, Miso Remaining players are gonna be playing bloody battle | ||
Chosi
Germany1274 Posts
PS: I remember Midas broad childish smile and was not aware he is still around or even active. Excited to see him play. | ||
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Sabu113
United States8545 Posts
On January 23 2022 06:01 LaStScan wrote: Remaining players are gonna be playing bloody battle SHARP Fighting. | ||
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PtossParty
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2xNoodle
United States187 Posts
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redknights
35 Posts
Sharp is in heavily favored in group 7 with Movie and Zelot being the only serious opponents Movie and Zelot both do plenty of cheesy all-in crap so Sharp could run into some bad luck here He's known for being good in messy games but against lower tier players I think he won't lose in a macro game | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 23 2022 13:20 2xNoodle wrote: I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine? the broadcast is replay based, they're replaying the games from yesterday that finished after the broadcast ended | ||
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2xNoodle
United States187 Posts
On January 23 2022 13:26 redknights wrote: the broadcast is replay based, they're replaying the games from yesterday that finished after the broadcast ended Ah, I see. Thanks! | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
G2: (NellTod vs BishOp) vs PianO Artosis eliminated in the first round G2.Pusan eliminated in second Round G2. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
On January 23 2022 13:20 2xNoodle wrote: I thought Snow beat Shine to qualify yesterday, but he's playing right now. Did he not qualify when he beat Shine? In which group ? | ||
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2xNoodle
United States187 Posts
Group 12, per your post. But as someone said, maybe I was just getting confused because I didn't know they were casting the later groups from yesterday from replay. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
On January 23 2022 14:29 2xNoodle wrote: Group 12, per your post. But as someone said, maybe I was just getting confused because I didn't know they were casting the later groups from yesterday from replay. I mean todays group.I did not see him. G1:Huro vs Sacsri G2: BishOp vs PianO G3: Hyun vs Shuttle G4: Tyson ? vs Spire G5: vs GuemChi G6: vs Ggaemo G7: Sharp vs Movie G8: Horang2 vs G9: Scan vs Beast G10: Mong vs G11: BarrackS vs (nOOB vs HiyA) G12: (sSak vs Marvel) vs ( Speed vs Ss1nz ) 10 P 6 Z 4 T | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3016 Posts
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redknights
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redknights
35 Posts
On January 23 2022 15:04 redknights wrote: despite Afreeca's best efforts, Sea fails to qualify and promptly announces his retirement (again?) from Starcraft | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1025 Posts
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angryground
20 Posts
Honestly, it doesn't seem to me that Sea groups were particulary easy and him not getting out is only natural (what, he was supposed to beat JyJ or ggaemo?). being entertaining shouldn't be enough to get into asl. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
G2: BishOp vs PianO G3: Hyun vs Shuttle G4: Tyson ? vs Spire G5: vs GuemChi G6: vs (Ggaemo vs Midas) G7: Sharp vs Movie G8: Horang2 vs G9: (Stork vs Scan) vs (Ample vs Beast ) G10: (Mong vs) vs ( vs ) G11: G12: (sSak vs) vs ( vs ) Stork vs Scan I was supporting both | ||
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redknights
35 Posts
worried this latest setback will really affect him mentally, this is a new career low despite him hovering around top 10 in elo for last few months didn't help that Afreeca put him in a ridiculous group in day 1, but there's really no excuse to lose to Movie 0:2 | ||
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DiMiaN
Finland255 Posts
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
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FunkyDragoon
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TMNT
325 Posts
But Stork was given tough groups to be fair, Sharp + Bisu yesterday and Scan + Beast today. He could have advanced if put in that Piano Bishop group for example. Having said that, Horang2 and Guemchi both just qualified. I guess Protoss is easy then  | ||
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Lazyer
United States181 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
And that's with Stork eliminated and Free not participating. Ss1nz and Noob are still competing in group 11 and 12 though. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
G2: BishOp vs PianO G3: Hyun vs Shuttle G4: Tyson vs Spire G5: vs GuemChi G6: vs Ggaemo G7: Sharp vs Movie G8: Horang2 vs G9: Scan vs Beast G10: Mong vs G11: BarrackS vs nOOB G12: sSak vs Speed 10 P 7 Z 7 T | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
Good line up. Mini Rain Bisu Snow Best | ||
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Lazyer
United States181 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
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masoka82
Spain275 Posts
SCAN FIGHTNING! | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3016 Posts
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masoka82
Spain275 Posts
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bovienchien
Vietnam1025 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3016 Posts
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bovienchien
Vietnam1025 Posts
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whaski
Finland556 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3016 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
On January 23 2022 19:24 whaski wrote: Action has fallen far off, too much girlstreamers? Hopefully Bishop, Beast and Ruin can get paired with someone like omekim or Lolrang to get possible prestige and experience in ASL. Lol no the real Action is still class and qualified yesterday already. That's just an amateur player with the word Action in his ID. | ||
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Croatia8509 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
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2BearqLoza
134 Posts
Any interesting games left to be played still? | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
G2: BishOp vs PianO G3: Hyun vs Shuttle G4: Tyson vs Spire G5: vs GuemChi G6: vs Ggaemo G7: Sharp vs Movie G8: Horang2 vs G9: Scan vs Beast G10: Mong vs G11: BarrackS vs nOOB G12: sSak vs Speed 10 P 7 Z 7 T | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
On January 23 2022 20:00 2BearqLoza wrote: Just woke up, who are these two T playing ATM? Any interesting games left to be played still? sSak vs Speed All groups done. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1319 Posts
On January 23 2022 20:00 2BearqLoza wrote: Just woke up, who are these two T playing ATM? Any interesting games left to be played still? That was ssak winning vs speed (sexy) that we just saw. It was the last group for today. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3016 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
Tier 1: Snow, Best, Rain, Soma, Light, Soulkey Tier 2: Shuttle, Bisu, Action, Mong, JYJ, Royal Tier 3: Ssak, Jaedong, Barrack, Horang2, Sacscri, Guemchi Tier 4: Ggaemo, Ruin, Tyson, Bishop, Movie, Beast Almost certainly there's gonna be a group of death with JD in tier 3. But tbh, apart from JD the guys in tier 3 and 4 look hopeless against tier 1 and 2. Although I hate it, I guess that's why they have to stick with BO1 in R24 then. Otherwise just make a super tournament and invite the top 16 again and again. | ||
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Ikirouta
Finland709 Posts
no pusan | ||
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oEkY
Germany609 Posts
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Szinkler
Hungary346 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES47079 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
good to see Horang2 (always liked his playstyle), Sacsri, Shuttle and Tyson back! | ||
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Szinkler
Hungary346 Posts
On January 23 2022 21:08 Szinkler wrote: Meanwhile Bisu stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/rlaxordyd/238460216 Seems like it's over already, it lasted only ~15mins. Anyone knows what he said? (other then apologizing of course, plans for future streams/asl?) | ||
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MineraIs
United States534 Posts
https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13 | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1025 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
On January 23 2022 21:15 Szinkler wrote: Seems like it's over already, it lasted only ~15mins. Anyone knows what he said? (other then apologizing of course, plans for future streams/asl?) He post a notice later saying broadcast starts at 2pm and it's well received by fans in the comment. After all, he turned the stream on after 8 months and it instantly hit 30k viewers. Flash must be smiling in his military camp now. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland4585 Posts
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TMNT
325 Posts
Largo/Allegro is similar to Polypoid in base locations but the terrain makes it a PvZ graveyard. Not sure why keep it for 2 seasons in a row. | ||
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FunkyDragoon
11 Posts
And what about Effort? Did he participate in the qualifiers? | ||
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angryground
20 Posts
On January 23 2022 22:43 TMNT wrote: He post a notice later saying broadcast starts at 2pm and it's well received by fans in the comment. After all, he turned the stream on after 8 months and it instantly hit 30k viewers. Flash must be smiling in his military camp now. Honestly, if Bisu spent these 8 months practicing, that's the best thing he could have done to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans imo. the best that he can do for brood war and the community is to show some good games in 2022. The one i'm endlessly amazed with is Rain. The guy has been playing league, diablo and whatnot for two years, but then a little bit of SC practice - bam, you're in the ASL Ro.24. | ||
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MineraIs
United States534 Posts
On January 23 2022 22:03 bovienchien wrote: ^ I hope Metaverse and Monopoly will save this league! Take a good look at Monopoly and the positional imbalances on it.. How is one to play simcity in ZvsZ from the bottom left position? ![[image loading]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704050881183744000/934806916721410058/unknown.png) It will have some interesting games, we'll see who likes taking the island ;o | ||
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Szinkler
Hungary346 Posts
On January 23 2022 23:11 angryground wrote: Honestly, if Bisu spent these 8 months practicing, that's the best thing he could have done to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans imo. the best that he can do for brood war and the community is to show some good games in 2022. Thank you TMNT! angryground: Agreed, and I really hope he did that. I guess we will see in ro24 if that is what Bisu did in those 8 months. All in all great qualifiers, let's hope ASL14 will be an offline event with even more players! | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On January 23 2022 21:35 MineraIs wrote: ASL 13 Map Pool: https://910map.tistory.com/category/ASL/ASL 시즌 13 what the fuck.. why did they kick Sky Bridge off? that sucks major balls.. always some bizarre decisions coming last second.. at least Butter is still in.. very disappointing nonetheless Vermeer has an AMD logo in the middle, btw. interesting. | ||
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whaski
Finland556 Posts
On January 23 2022 19:40 TMNT wrote: Lol no the real Action is still class and qualified yesterday already. That's just an amateur player with the word Action in his ID. Oh I see. Was quite spooked with that muta-allin. Quite intresting that there are so many protosses around, zergs must be quite happy with the results. | ||
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TornadoSteve
714 Posts
Unfortunately, i was hoping to see piano in ASL again. I really dont understand how Movie still manage to sneak into RO28. He must be bribing somebody somewhere... | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
On January 24 2022 02:36 TornadoSteve wrote: Tyson looking great lately, happy for players like ggaemo, guemchi and of course both jaedong and rain. Unfortunately, i was hoping to see piano in ASL again. I really dont understand how Movie still manage to sneak into RO28. He must be bribing somebody somewhere... Sharp played awful against Movie. | ||
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angryground
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redknights
35 Posts
Sharp continuing his recent competition history of choking, remember he crashed out in ASL12 Ro. 24 by losing to Noob twice looking at sponbbang stats from last 6 months (https://sponbbang.com/profile/?month1=2021-08&month2=2022-01&map_id=0&bj_id=6), he was 32-16 (67%) over Movie - serious choke to lose 0-2 when 2 of the qual maps are decent for Terran other funny stats: vs qualified Ps 4-0 (100%) vs Guemchi 26-1 (96%) vs Horang2 56-19 (75%) vs Tyson 6-2 (75%) vs Rain vs qualified Zs 23-4 (85%) vs ggaemo 16-6 (73%) vs Sacsri 27-14 (66%) against Action (also 2-1 vs JD and 2-0 vs beast) this dude has the physical tools but probably needs both a coach and a sports psychologist, his weak mentality needs a lot of work | ||
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Return
Ivory Coast848 Posts
On January 23 2022 20:44 TMNT wrote: According to Shuttle: Tier 1: Snow, Best, Rain, Soma, Light, Soulkey Tier 2: Shuttle, Bisu, Action, Mong, JYJ, Royal Tier 3: Ssak, Jaedong, Barrack, Horang2, Sacscri, Guemchi Tier 4: Ggaemo, Ruin, Tyson, Bishop, Movie, Beast Almost certainly there's gonna be a group of death with JD in tier 3. But tbh, apart from JD the guys in tier 3 and 4 look hopeless against tier 1 and 2. Although I hate it, I guess that's why they have to stick with BO1 in R24 then. Otherwise just make a super tournament and invite the top 16 again and again. Think ssak and barracks also can vibe with some t1/t2s | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
JD May upset any of T1 or T2 player. Tier 1: Best can choke against good z.Also p's may cheese him like Mini did at ASL 11 R8. SK may choke to z also. Tier 2: Shuttle gonna choke.I can bet on it. Mong and JYJ is not reliable on PVT.P's may upset. I don't watch TVT maybe some T's also. | ||
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Katkishka
United States625 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On January 24 2022 15:49 Katkishka wrote: Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all. check out this thread https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/584057-new-worlds-map-contest-2-top-12-submissions Sky Bridge got top 12 of this map contest | ||
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MineraIs
United States534 Posts
On January 24 2022 00:39 M3t4PhYzX wrote: what the fuck.. why did they kick Sky Bridge off? that sucks major balls.. always some bizarre decisions coming last second.. at least Butter is still in.. very disappointing nonetheless Vermeer has an AMD logo in the middle, btw. interesting. AMD sponsored LatiAs to create a map with input help from herO, Rush, Mini to create the next popular standard map, and this is the creation. Hopefully we'll see an update from version 1.1 before official games. On January 24 2022 15:49 Katkishka wrote: Does anyone have a download link for Sky Bridge? Seems it's already been removed from 910map, though admittedly I don't know how to navigate the site at all. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929951923631710218/933000706976251974/3SkyBridge_0.96.zip | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On January 24 2022 23:37 MineraIs wrote: AMD sponsored LatiAs to create a map with input help from herO, Rush, Mini to create the next popular standard map, and this is the creation. Hopefully we'll see an update from version 1.1 before official games. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929951923631710218/933000706976251974/3SkyBridge_0.96.zip wow.. really? AMD sponsored a BW mapmaker to replace/equal the popularity of FS/Polypoid? that's very interesting.. map looks decent, hopefully it'll deliver many great games still mad that they kicked Sky Bridge and left Monopoly in though.. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland4585 Posts
On January 25 2022 01:05 M3t4PhYzX wrote: wow.. really? AMD sponsored a BW mapmaker to replace/equal the popularity of FS/Polypoid? that's very interesting.. map looks decent, hopefully it'll deliver many great games still mad that they kicked Sky Bridge and left Monopoly in though.. Is there any chance they bring it back? It's a really cool map. Allegro, on the other hand, looks very generic. :< | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On January 25 2022 05:29 maybenexttime wrote: Is there any chance they bring it back? It's a really cool map. Allegro, on the other hand, looks very generic. :< at this moment? no chance unfortunately.. Allegro is generic af and Monopoly looks awful and kinda amateurish, tbh.. Sky Bridge looks so much better it's not even funny. Typical ASL last moment shenanigans | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2083 Posts
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TMNT
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On January 25 2022 18:28 TMNT wrote: No group of death tho thx for posting this F looking the strongest, imo | ||
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prosatan
Romania6224 Posts
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prosatan
Romania6224 Posts
Group A: If Best doesn't chock on Beast, I'll go with him , but I can't predict second place to save my life. Group B: Light and Bisu. Bisu has still amazing PvZ and very strong PvP also. Group C: Rain and Action (pretty easy to call this one). Group D: Snow and Royal (also easy) Group E: Soma and JyJ Group F: JAEDONG (PLEASEEEEE  ) and SK | ||
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Lorch
Germany3592 Posts
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oEkY
Germany609 Posts
i like group c and e the most, rooting for either sSak or Ruin to upset JyJ or soma | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1584 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
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TornadoSteve
714 Posts
btw, movie is the real movie guy. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6280 Posts
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psyCrowe
Scotland188 Posts
On January 26 2022 05:06 Zoler wrote: Where are mini and Rush??? Because they are finalists from ASL12 they are exempt from participation from ASL13. + Show Spoiler + Only joking, top 4 (Mini, Rush, Hero & Zero) all get seeded into ro16 | ||
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sadego
10 Posts
On January 25 2022 19:46 prosatan wrote: OK! Let's analyze a bit: Group A: If Best doesn't chock on Beast, I'll go with him , but I can't predict second place to save my life. Group B: Light and Bisu. Bisu has still amazing PvZ and very strong PvP also. Group C: Rain and Action (pretty easy to call this one). Group D: Snow and Royal (also easy) Group E: Soma and JyJ Group F: JAEDONG (PLEASEEEEE ) and SKThanks for telling us the tier 1 and 2 players will advance. | ||
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prosatan
Romania6224 Posts
On January 26 2022 05:52 sadego wrote: Thanks for telling us the tier 1 and 2 players will advance. JD is tier 3 But he will be tier 1 | ||
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TornadoSteve
714 Posts
Light // Tyson Rain // Action SnOw // sOrry Ruin // sSak Soulkey // Jaedong | ||
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oxKnu
1050 Posts
But then again it's Bo1, so yeah.. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden980 Posts
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rararara
104 Posts
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
Light // Bisu : Clear favs. Rain // Action : Action is not so reliable but not in this group. Snow // Royal : Clear favs. Soma // Ruin : Ruin is also in form.I expect him over T's. JD // SK : Clear favs. | ||
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rararara
104 Posts
On January 25 2022 19:46 prosatan wrote: OK! Let's analyze a bit: Group A: If Best doesn't chock on Beast, I'll go with him , but I can't predict second place to save my life. Group B: Light and Bisu. Bisu has still amazing PvZ and very strong PvP also. Group C: Rain and Action (pretty easy to call this one). Group D: Snow and Royal (also easy) Group E: Soma and JyJ Group F: JAEDONG (PLEASEEEEE ) and SKI agree with this list! A is perhaps the weakest group. Besides Best, Shuttle may have the best shot, but his performances can be shaky. Bisu can make it in Group B. Maps and strats might decide a few games tho. In C, Action should come out on top - really looking forward to seeing Rain play. Aswell as JD!  | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4024 Posts
On January 26 2022 08:21 Freezard wrote: Can we all appreciate how BeSt is the only player who has participated in every single ASL? He may never have been the best of his race, but he's pretty damn consistent. I think he had to qualify to all of them as well. Yeah that's very impressive, hopefully he can at least make the semis this time. | ||
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prosatan
Romania6224 Posts
On January 26 2022 08:21 Freezard wrote: Can we all appreciate how BeSt is the only player who has participated in every single ASL? He may never have been the best of his race, but he's pretty damn consistent. I think he had to qualify to all of them as well. Good call Freezard! Doh Jae Wook fighting! | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1025 Posts
B: Light, Bisu C: Rain, Action D: Snow, RoyaL E: Soma, JyJ F: Soulkey, Jaedong | ||
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Destroyer
Czech Republic901 Posts
B: Light + Bisu C: Rain + Action D: Royal + Snow E: Ruin + JyJ F: Soulkey + Mong ;-) | ||
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Lazyer
United States181 Posts
I think it's unlikely we see upsets from these groups, I just hope BarrackS and JD get out! | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland4585 Posts
B: Light, Bisu C: Action, Rain D: Royal, Snow E: Soma, sSak F: SK, JD | ||
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outscar
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polgas
Canada1610 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2618 Posts
On January 26 2022 08:21 Freezard wrote: Can we all appreciate how BeSt is the only player who has participated in every single ASL? He may never have been the best of his race, but he's pretty damn consistent. I think he had to qualify to all of them as well. Thanks for pointing it out! | ||
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namkraft
55 Posts
Stork no...... ((( | ||
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Destroyer
Czech Republic901 Posts
On January 28 2022 06:43 polgas wrote: Can't wait! Wish someone has the VODs for the qualifiers. Hello, here. https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82857256 https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82898258 | ||
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polgas
Canada1610 Posts
On January 31 2022 21:59 Destroyer wrote: Hello, here. https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82857256 https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/82898258 Thanks!! | ||
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Kespa1988
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ThunderJunk
United States498 Posts
B: Light, Tyson C: Action, Horang2 D: Snow, ggaemo E: Soma, Ssak F: Soulkey, Movie Tyson looking like a beast recently. Most excited to see Horang2 | ||
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FunkyDragoon
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konadora
Singapore50287 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
On February 04 2022 18:53 konadora wrote: oh those maps look gooood already lot of great games on them, too. progamers using them for their late night proleague. Mini uploads all the matches on his YT channel. Recommended watch. | ||
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ggnore13
53 Posts
On February 04 2022 21:40 M3t4PhYzX wrote: already lot of great games on them, too. progamers using them for their late night proleague. Mini uploads all the matches on his YT channel. Recommended watch. Could you link that? | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey189 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk1NTIlGP27bQEumkw6sDVA | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2831 Posts
he uploads the gamees here --> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTJFcLnX5FpjCUWH4VOkxEg/videos | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1680 Posts
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