• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:05
CEST 21:05
KST 04:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Are Blue Mountains Private Tours Worth It? Complet How to Find the Best Blue Mountains Private Tours BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1752 users

[ASL11] Ro16 Preview Pt.2: High Class

Forum Index > BW General
9 CommentsPost a Reply

[ASL11] Ro16 Preview Pt.2: High Class

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byv1
May 2nd, 2021 04:16 GMT
ASL11 Main Image
After a bunch of surprises coming out of the gate in this Ro16 from Group A and B we turn to the latter half of the ASL Ro16 with Group C featuring a star studded lineup of Larva, Bisu, EffOrt and Snow and Group D featuring hero caught in the battle for Terran supermacy between Rush, Royal(sOrry) and Light.
Group A Preview

No Terrans Club

There are no clear cut winners in this group, this is easily one of the hardest groups I've ever had to predict and my personal track record for this season is bad as it is, between Larva, Bisu, EffOrt and Snow every single one of them are very good at the opposing match up and 3 of them have shown to be great at the mirror matchup as well.

In the month of April alone Bisu and Larva have played 33 games against each other with a 18-15 record in the favor of Bisu, a record that long time fans can look at and find bisu awfully cutting it close against Larva who used to be his whipping post to boost his PvZ stats back in the day, goes to show how good larva is right now. Larva’s sponbbang record in the last month against other protoss like Shuttle who most part plays a solid mid-late game protoss is (30-9, 77%) and Mini who is an unorthodox and very aggressive player is (34-16, 68%) which goes to show obviously does well against various styles and strategies but struggles a bit more against Bisu who in most cases gets his wins from better in the moment decision making and adjustments to the strategy more than the overall grand strategy, and for that I do believe that Bisu still does take the opening game, but I won’t be surprised if it goes the other way, after all Bisu has trouble in actually trying to play good in offline matches.

One of the things I noticed with regards to Snow during his preparation of his Ro24 matches, he was still massing a lot of sponmatches against zergs despite the fact that he didn’t have to deal no zergs in his group and during that period to now Snow and EffOrt played each other in 12 games going (7-5, 58.3%) in favor of Snow, we can also apply the same Shuttle/Mini quotient for EffOrt as well against whom hes 67% and 70% respectively, and while this is EffOrt’s true test and first offline PvZ since his return from army, I would like to give that slight advantage to Snow for his preparations.

on a side note I realized as I was writing this that both opening matches are team kills, with Bisu and Larva being former SKT members and EffOrt and Snow being former CJ Entus members, funny how things work out like that

This leaves us with a huge PvP winner’s series and while both players haven’t played a lot of PvP in sponmatches, they rarely lost the ones they played either and although they have not played each other in april, they did have 2 games in march, both won by Snow. Bisu is without a doubt one of the best in PvP, but the claim for the best still lies with Snow at the moment given how he is the master of reavers and reaver micro is absolutely essential in early game PvP and now that its not just a Bo1 Bisu can’t rely on getting a quick an dirty win to make it out of the group, advantage snow, snow should advance.

For as awful as Larva’s sponbbang rating is for ZvZ(36.3%) right now, I still can’t count him out against EffOrt, maybe its the deja vu of that all zerg group from ASL4 or in general seeing EffOrt get jobbed out of another Ro16 because of ZvZ, luckily it being a Bo3 means that there can be some adjusting and course correction on EffOrt’s part if he is caught off guard and overall EffOrt always had good ZvZ, just that his offline track record for it has always been bad. I’m not flipping a coin, I’m taking a decision and that decision is EffOrt.

Regardless of EffOrt or Larva, the final match is not only going to be tough its going to be one thats been storied over the years, EffOrt and Bisu have had a long rivalry, of course they were the finalists of the precursor to the ASL in the VNSL where EffOrt won the series and of course they other skirmishes over the years make anyone whos a fan of starcraft hyped for this match. I’m going for Bisu on this, their head to head record is 14-7 since march in favor of Bisu.

There are legitimately no possible upsets in this group, I would not be surprised with any combination advancing to the Ro8, I’m playing by the numbers here like I always do, in fact the only upset would be if we don’t get good games from this group.

Final Prediction:

(P)Bisu > (Z)Larva
(P)Snow > (Z)EffOrt
(P)Snow > (P)Bisu
(Z)EffOrt > (Z)Larva
(P)Bisu > (Z)EffOrt

(P)Snow and (P)Bisu Advance to the Ro8!
Group B Preview

The no Zergs and Protoss Club

Had your fill with all that PvZ, ZvZ and PvP from Group C? Good because now we’re running the marathon of TvTs and if you don’t like it, well you better hope hero tries to advance 2nd and not 1st out of the group, but jokes aside many fans, especially in korea are looking at this group to find out who is going to be the next leader of the terran race now that Flash is away. Rush, Royal and Light all have a claim to the throne.

According to sponbbang results, based on the month of April there seems to be a triangle of a winloss record between the three terrans in the group with Rush > Royal(6-2), Royal > Light(2-0) and Light > Rush (2-1) and how those results play into the group depends on how the opening matches go, starting with:

Rush and Royal for the group’s first opening match, as mentioned Rush has an advantage, in fact if you factor in their March results the head to head is 10-8 in Rush’s favor, so in the last month, Rush has actually been pulling ahead of Royal in TvT or at least it seems like Rush has figured Royal out at the moment, all 3 players have similar styles in TvT feeling very comfortable playing the classic style of TvT but Rush also from stream seems to have taken to incorporating the modern refined timings that give the pace to the modern TvT and that might be what gives him the edge against Royal thus far.

Light is always going to be favored in a TvZ, it's his absolute bread and butter and while it's not the absolute best it's ever been, it's still pretty good right now, but hero is no slouch either, their head to head sits at 2-2 for April on the other hand polypoid is really good for Terran in TvZ, Light should take this.

Light and Rush are very similar in style, skill and overall decision making when it comes to TvT, this is a true mirror’s mirror and its a Bo3 with all the adjustments to be made based on the previous match, you generally don’t coinflip a TvT but in this case you might have to, if I had to pick one then purely on sponbbang results I’d pick Light.

Royal vs hero is going to be a banger of a match though, just like light and hero both have a tied head to head but the sample size of games is a lot bigger with them being 13-13, this is going to be a great TvZ with 2 people who have played each other a lot recently, expect some metagaming and mindgames, not sure who to pick, I like TvZ more so I pick hero.

Final Game could very well be Royal vs Rush again, in which case I’d still just pick Rush to win, however if it is hero vs Rush we get another close call with the head to head of hero and Rush being 6-5 in the favor of hero, although it is to be said that 4 of the maps in the pool overwhelmingly favour terran over zerg, but the games were played on the ASL maps, I honestly cannot pick a winner on this either, its going to be close but we might be ending up with only 1 zerg in the Ro8.

Final Prediction:

(T)Rush > (T)Royal
(T)Light > (Z)hero
(T)Light > (T)Rush
(Z)hero > (T)Royal
(T)Rush > (Z)hero

(T)Light and (T)Rush to advance to the Ro8!



Writers: BLinD-RawR
Graphics: v1
Editors: BLinD-RawR

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
May 02 2021 04:19 GMT
#2
I apologize for being late with this, its not easy to fly solo.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4141 Posts
May 02 2021 04:20 GMT
#3
Round of 16 is where it starts to get exciting, can't wait!
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
May 02 2021 07:35 GMT
#4
If these predictions come true, Zero is the only zerg in the Ro8. A stark contrast to the last two ASLs. While you mention that anything can happen, Soma's elimination and Zeros uneasy progression makes the predictions feel plausible.

AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
May 02 2021 14:07 GMT
#5
you forget dlwogh. again
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
May 02 2021 14:44 GMT
#6
what?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
May 02 2021 18:49 GMT
#7
Great preview, thank you!
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
May 02 2021 22:24 GMT
#8
Thank you for BW <3 content
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11077 Posts
May 03 2021 02:48 GMT
#9
Group C is utterly ridiculous.

I am a little hopeful for Larva. Would love to see him have a surprise deep run.

Snow Fighting!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
May 03 2021 06:30 GMT
#10
I feel sOrry for your group D predictions :O(
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 544
elazer 191
IndyStarCraft 159
UpATreeSC 76
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3489
Sea 2929
Mini 359
Shuttle 228
Soulkey 209
actioN 149
ggaemo 130
Dewaltoss 119
Aegong 40
HiyA 24
Counter-Strike
fl0m4074
pashabiceps2349
kRYSTAL_31
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu304
MindelVK14
Other Games
gofns13931
Grubby3760
summit1g2843
FrodaN1223
B2W.Neo766
Beastyqt526
C9.Mang0184
mouzStarbuck149
ArmadaUGS121
Hui .115
Livibee83
KnowMe78
RotterdaM69
Trikslyr49
Mew2King48
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL33686
Other Games
BasetradeTV1035
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta13
• Adnapsc2 13
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 33
• HerbMon 32
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV713
• lizZardDota269
League of Legends
• Nemesis3252
Other Games
• imaqtpie927
• Shiphtur303
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
4h 55m
WardiTV Team League
15h 55m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 14h
WardiTV Team League
1d 15h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 19h
BSL
1d 23h
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.