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Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
April 17 2021 00:59 GMT
#81
Foreign All-Star vs Action showmatch begins now

cast by Scan and Nyoken!

link : https://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119/232494381

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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2716 Posts
April 17 2021 03:18 GMT
#82
Last game between Bonyth vs Action really shows the gap. I'm pretty sure Action could have gone Lurker or Hive tech, but he was like "No, I will just use my tier 1 unit, dance around your army, dodge all the storms, deny your expansions and run you to the ground". And he did. Would be insane multitasking controlling like 100 hydras like that.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
April 17 2021 07:46 GMT
#83
sigh..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
dsaqwe..
Profile Joined April 2020
34 Posts
April 17 2021 10:13 GMT
#84
fkn crazy.. i was sure that foreigners will take at least 1,2 games per series..
its really hard to win 9 games in a row no matter skill gap...
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 17 2021 11:27 GMT
#85
Koreans in Brood War are gods but, no offense meant, foreign scene is relatively weak.
Scarlett currently is not one of the top foreigners in Sc2 and it looked like she could have become one of the best in BW with more practice.

If some of the young european prodigies would have chosen to play Brood War we would have had more interesting "Korea vs the world" events, even if this one is for sure entertaining already.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 17 2021 12:45 GMT
#86
On April 17 2021 19:13 dsaqwe.. wrote:
fkn crazy.. i was sure that foreigners will take at least 1,2 games per series..
its really hard to win 9 games in a row no matter skill gap...


Sure why?

All of these players are currently in Top8 (maybe 10) active players playing in BW.

By my estimation there is no foreigner that could be seen as Top30 in the world right now.

The results are in-line with that.
MartoPsss...
Profile Joined April 2021
1 Post
April 17 2021 15:15 GMT
#87
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...onmYwaY
Profile Joined August 2018
92 Posts
April 17 2021 19:53 GMT
#88
Heartbreak to see the All Stars take that loss but still a very entertaining series. I can’t formulate how impressive the Brood War Pro Gamers are. Yes, they get so much more quality practice but still... All Star team combined have put ALOT of hours in this game too, years of practice and are “Pros” in their own right compared to most. They would 9-0 a huge majority of other foreigners. So what Action did, even as a huge favorite in all matches are very impressive.
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-18 00:54:02
April 18 2021 00:52 GMT
#89
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42688 Posts
April 18 2021 05:19 GMT
#90
Thank you for hosting this. Oya’s opening was especially good. It sucked that + Show Spoiler +
Bonyth got cheesed, I’d have liked to have seen a proper game
.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42688 Posts
April 18 2021 05:28 GMT
#91
On April 17 2021 12:18 TMNT wrote:
Last game between Bonyth vs Action really shows the gap. I'm pretty sure Action could have gone Lurker or Hive tech, but he was like "No, I will just use my tier 1 unit, dance around your army, dodge all the storms, deny your expansions and run you to the ground". And he did. Would be insane multitasking controlling like 100 hydras like that.

Did you miss the first 5 minutes of the game?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 18 2021 05:39 GMT
#92
On April 18 2021 14:19 KwarK wrote:
Thank you for hosting this. Oya’s opening was especially good. It sucked that + Show Spoiler +
Bonyth got cheesed, I’d have liked to have seen a proper game
.


good opening let down by poor execution during the push, lost all the high tech units to mutas. action even revealed the mutas early, would it hurt to make 1 archon or DA?
MKStyles
Profile Joined April 2017
106 Posts
April 18 2021 08:41 GMT
#93
Well what can we say, atleast they tried
IntoTheStorm
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
116 Posts
April 18 2021 12:56 GMT
#94
This is such an awesome event, I'm watching every game with anticipation of an underdog taking a sweet victory. Action's approach was so cool - "They're gonna try to cheese me, but I'm not gonna let'em." I wonder what would have happened if someone played that game and went for the greediest builds against a defensive Action... It's not a guaranteed win by any means, but to me it seems like the best chance.
Improvement
Profile Joined March 2003
203 Posts
April 18 2021 22:54 GMT
#95
I love to see the obliteration personally. I feel like Action was just trolling in the last game, only using hydras just to make it harder for himself.
The skill gap truly is immense.
Hmm
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 18 2021 23:38 GMT
#96
On April 17 2021 20:27 Xain0n wrote:
Koreans in Brood War are gods but, no offense meant, foreign scene is relatively weak.
Scarlett currently is not one of the top foreigners in Sc2 and it looked like she could have become one of the best in BW with more practice.

If some of the young european prodigies would have chosen to play Brood War we would have had more interesting "Korea vs the world" events, even if this one is for sure entertaining already.


completely theoretical and guesswork.. regarding SC2 players excelling in SCBW

if anything at all it is rather unlikely than likely given how different the games are
hatred outlives the hateful
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 18 2021 23:43 GMT
#97
oh and if anything I found Bonyth vs Action game extremely close considering what kind of damage action did to bonyth and I am somewhat sad it happened like that because if behind that much bonyth did so decent I rlly wonder how close it could get if the game starts better/normal for him

hatred outlives the hateful
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 00:14:34
April 18 2021 23:59 GMT
#98
On April 19 2021 08:38 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 20:27 Xain0n wrote:
Koreans in Brood War are gods but, no offense meant, foreign scene is relatively weak.
Scarlett currently is not one of the top foreigners in Sc2 and it looked like she could have become one of the best in BW with more practice.

If some of the young european prodigies would have chosen to play Brood War we would have had more interesting "Korea vs the world" events, even if this one is for sure entertaining already.


completely theoretical and guesswork.. regarding SC2 players excelling in SCBW

if anything at all it is rather unlikely than likely given how different the games are


So theoretical that we have Scarlett's example; also, there was TY aka BaBy returning to BW for a teamleague after years spent playing Sc2, he performed pretty well.

When you have 600 apm and godlike multitasking, being unable to select more than a certain number of units couldn't possibly stop you.
The games are different but not as much as you suggest, the inverse process(BW pro gamers to Sc2) basically worked well even if the same players didn't dominate both games(with the exception of Rain), why would this be that different?

However, the main point here was that the foreign scene in BW can't compete at all with the koreans; I am absolutely positive that Sc2's foreign scene has fundamentally stronger RTS players, which would do better for sure if they played Brood War and were given the time to adapt.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 00:14:54
April 19 2021 00:12 GMT
#99
only serral and reynor i pretty sure of are very likely to succeed in BW (aka reach expro level) since they don't just have strong mechanics but also display great decision making and very positive (champion) mentality. the rest of the sc2 foreigners aren't really consistent enough
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
April 19 2021 00:56 GMT
#100
This has been a really entertaining series. Seeing how dominant these players can be really brings home just got high the level of competition is in Korea—Action hasn't made it past the group stages of ASL for a couple seasons but completely crushed it here.
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