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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
February 07 2021 11:45 GMT
#1
Rankings has been updated. Big thanks to mr FakeFin.


Still looking for people who can help us with database filling and bets mod/admin.

Top 10 preview:


International:
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International - no Kr
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Korean scene
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Have fun! More on: https://rankgim.eu
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
February 07 2021 12:00 GMT
#2
What is the Korean ranking based on?
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
February 07 2021 12:04 GMT
#3
Its based on official korean tournaments
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1167 Posts
February 07 2021 12:09 GMT
#4
Wow, great, thanks for sharing!

If I can help somehow with detecting the Bulgarian players in your database or something similar, just let me know.

Happy to see the ranking initiative thriving!
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
February 07 2021 12:25 GMT
#5
On February 07 2021 21:00 oxKnu wrote:
What is the Korean ranking based on?

It's from tournaments like ASL, CMSL, KCM and KCM Challenge, so far only from 2020 and Jan 21
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
February 07 2021 13:11 GMT
#6
If someone know these guys race/country plz post here. Thanks.

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/race/unknown
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/country/Unknown
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
February 07 2021 13:22 GMT
#7
On February 07 2021 21:25 FakeFin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2021 21:00 oxKnu wrote:
What is the Korean ranking based on?

It's from tournaments like ASL, CMSL, KCM and KCM Challenge, so far only from 2020 and Jan 21


I see.

It's quite...unrealistic I would say. Sponbbang stats should be included.

Mini has been proven to be the strongest protoss in the last 3-4 months (even being nr.2 behind Flash for awhile) and he is nowhere to be found in here in the top 10.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-07 13:39:53
February 07 2021 13:34 GMT
#8
Well it doesnt work like that. Look where is Terror in international ranking, its not ELO fault that these guys dont have good results. I can feel like Terror is way better but, he is constantly loosing games. Look Mini profile:

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/kor_player/7

He is just loosing in tournaments. We cant track Sponbbang, if they dont share database.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-07 13:47:08
February 07 2021 13:46 GMT
#9
On February 07 2021 22:34 Poegim wrote:

We cant track Sponbbang, if they dont share database.


They forbid you copying their data you mean? Because otherwise the site has a pretty basic layout and is not that hard to scrape for data.

Overall sponbbang stats are more important than stuff like KCM, CSML which some pros even skip sometimes. Mainly because the sponsored team games have hefty prizepools on the line and everyone is trying quite hard in them.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-07 14:00:39
February 07 2021 13:59 GMT
#10
If you mean this gamelist (is it even game list?) https://sponbbang.com/search/?&page=1 i think its unreadable for us, foreigners. We cant get data from this.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
February 07 2021 14:16 GMT
#11
https://sponbbang.com/bj/?order1=전체&order2=elo&detail_td=winrate&month1=2020-01&month2=2021-02&race=전체&map_id=전체

^ This is basically the Korean ranking from January 2020 onwards. I think it has all the official tournaments too. (although I'm not sure, definitely stuff like ASL or ASTL is in there). Precision of results is quite good for the popular streamers.

1. Flash 1328.5
2. Bisu 1237.7
3. Light 1226,6
4. Mini 1224.0
5. Larva 1211.4
6. Soulkey 1210.6
7. Zero 1203.7
8. Soma 1200.4
9. Snow 1199.7
10. Hero 1195.5

So yeah, you could just copy this I guess if you want the work done for you already.
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-07 14:39:03
February 07 2021 14:38 GMT
#12
On February 07 2021 23:16 oxKnu wrote:
https://sponbbang.com/bj/?order1=전체&order2=elo&detail_td=winrate&month1=2020-01&month2=2021-02&race=전체&map_id=전체

^ This is basically the Korean ranking from January 2020 onwards. I think it has all the official tournaments too. (although I'm not sure, definitely stuff like ASL or ASTL is in there). Precision of results is quite good for the popular streamers.

1. Flash 1328.5
2. Bisu 1237.7
3. Light 1226,6
4. Mini 1224.0
5. Larva 1211.4
6. Soulkey 1210.6
7. Zero 1203.7
8. Soma 1200.4
9. Snow 1199.7
10. Hero 1195.5

So yeah, you could just copy this I guess if you want the work done for you already.

Theres already a good site that shows the sponbbang rankings, it's called sponbbang.com.

What would be the point in just having the same ranking twice, just in different places?
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
February 07 2021 14:51 GMT
#13
On February 07 2021 23:38 FakeFin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2021 23:16 oxKnu wrote:
https://sponbbang.com/bj/?order1=전체&order2=elo&detail_td=winrate&month1=2020-01&month2=2021-02&race=전체&map_id=전체

^ This is basically the Korean ranking from January 2020 onwards. I think it has all the official tournaments too. (although I'm not sure, definitely stuff like ASL or ASTL is in there). Precision of results is quite good for the popular streamers.

1. Flash 1328.5
2. Bisu 1237.7
3. Light 1226,6
4. Mini 1224.0
5. Larva 1211.4
6. Soulkey 1210.6
7. Zero 1203.7
8. Soma 1200.4
9. Snow 1199.7
10. Hero 1195.5

So yeah, you could just copy this I guess if you want the work done for you already.


What would be the point in just having the same ranking twice, just in different places?


Isn't that the case for your website then? Except yours are not very accurate.

Not trying to downplay your efforts or anything but it seems odd to have that when something more accurate is available and you're not stating anywhere obvious on that website where the ELO is coming from and in what context.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
February 07 2021 16:11 GMT
#14
thnx for the update!

I took a look at the unknown country/race list, this is AFAIK:

artanis is aka dreamer, russian protoss
seaW is french
lingepump is german Z
royalblue is american T
shafirudd is american P
Maars is canadian T
Red.Best is korean P (not progamer best)
stormzerg is russian Z
kwanwoo is Z
cold is Z
civilzerg is peruvian Z
xenosky is P
drag00n is american P
Kingdom is american P
Baal is P
Grast is P
Prase is Z
Bugg is french P
Packrat is Z

aka DragOn[NaS]
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-07 16:56:01
February 07 2021 16:36 GMT
#15
On February 07 2021 22:11 Poegim wrote:
If someone know these guys race/country plz post here. Thanks.

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/race/unknown
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/country/Unknown


https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/2510
SpaNiarD: Protoss, Spain

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1286
Zuba: Zerg

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/224
IntoTheMadcow: Protoss, USA

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1248
Mindflayer: Zerg

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/2525
Machupicchu: Zerg, Peru

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/2344
Izu: Zerg

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1276
kimquex: Terran

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/2329
ToSSbOy: Protoss, Peru (btw, he himself spells his name toosboy ingame. but in all the BWCL brackets his leader always puts him as tossboy lol)

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/2346
Maars: Terran

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1804
ChispaC: Zerg, Peru

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1683
Cameloid: Protoss

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/388
rOuta: Protoss

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/843
[tO]cReAtiVee: Germany, not sure if he even has a main race. I have replays of him playing 1v1 with all races, and that's with a 1v1 sample size of 5 or 6 games.

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1768
Lingepumpe: Zerg, Germany

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/247
Red.Best: South Korea


On February 08 2021 01:11 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
artanis is aka dreamer, russian protoss


Those might be two different players. There is also a vT-Artaniz/vT-Artanis (both spellings can be found). He has played in BWCL Div-B in BWCL S51, for example. While Dreamer played in Div-A for ash.
LML
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
February 07 2021 17:11 GMT
#16
On February 07 2021 23:51 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2021 23:38 FakeFin wrote:
On February 07 2021 23:16 oxKnu wrote:
https://sponbbang.com/bj/?order1=전체&order2=elo&detail_td=winrate&month1=2020-01&month2=2021-02&race=전체&map_id=전체

^ This is basically the Korean ranking from January 2020 onwards. I think it has all the official tournaments too. (although I'm not sure, definitely stuff like ASL or ASTL is in there). Precision of results is quite good for the popular streamers.

1. Flash 1328.5
2. Bisu 1237.7
3. Light 1226,6
4. Mini 1224.0
5. Larva 1211.4
6. Soulkey 1210.6
7. Zero 1203.7
8. Soma 1200.4
9. Snow 1199.7
10. Hero 1195.5

So yeah, you could just copy this I guess if you want the work done for you already.


What would be the point in just having the same ranking twice, just in different places?


Isn't that the case for your website then? Except yours are not very accurate.

Not trying to downplay your efforts or anything but it seems odd to have that when something more accurate is available and you're not stating anywhere obvious on that website where the ELO is coming from and in what context.

It's a different ranking, sponbbang is a ranking for sponmatches and rankgim is a ranking for tournaments. You can see where the elo is coming from when clicking on a playername and looking through his matchlist
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
February 07 2021 17:16 GMT
#17
Thanks!

Creativee as i know is polish livin in germany, not sure he want pol or ger flag but i saw him on netwars.pl so he was pl from my perspective.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10175 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-07 20:29:20
February 07 2021 20:26 GMT
#18
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1925
shafirudd: USA P

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1802
buenaventur: Sweden Z

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1995
Randir: USA P

https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/79
Adel: France P
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
February 08 2021 08:59 GMT
#19
Thanks. Adel =/= Adelscott as i know ;D
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
February 08 2021 14:14 GMT
#20
On February 08 2021 17:59 Poegim wrote:
Thanks. Adel =/= Adelscott as i know ;D


Correct. But Adel is a French Protoss nonetheless. Adelscott is just his bm nemesis.
LML
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-09 20:45:52
February 09 2021 20:45 GMT
#21
Bishop random, mostly terran
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1393

Gorky is Russian terran
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/336

Duremar is Russian zerg
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/1227


Keep up good job, please
patyrykin.net
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
February 10 2021 07:30 GMT
#22
Thanks @Rus_Brain, fixed.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
February 10 2021 11:12 GMT
#23
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/2656 = bg Nemu. He plays all three races, but he plays mostly Terran, and is considered Terran @ liquipedia.
patyrykin.net
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada121 Posts
March 18 2021 19:08 GMT
#24
How often is this site updated?
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1167 Posts
March 19 2021 15:36 GMT
#25
On February 10 2021 20:12 Rus_Brain wrote:
https://rankgim.eu/rankings/int_player/2656 = bg Nemu. He plays all three races, but he plays mostly Terran, and is considered Terran @ liquipedia.


Nemu's main race is zerg.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-24 19:49:06
March 24 2021 19:47 GMT
#26
On March 19 2021 04:08 ruhtraeel wrote:
How often is this site updated?


Well, im tryin to keep in monthly updated, but have 2-3 weeks delay atm, with means march update for international ranking was ready ~21march.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
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