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Poegim
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Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 14:41:16
November 10 2020 13:58 GMT
#1
Hey, finally with help of Ziggy, Gruglog and FakeFin our elo ranking is updated up to 31 OCTOBER. Next update - next month and i hope it will be always monthly since now. ATM we have 18k games in international and 1k games in korean rankings. I hope this base will be still growing. This update gets over 7900 games since july 2019.

What have been done:

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I know there must be some issues, we are doin what we can to make it as good as its possible. Now after this big update i hope i will find time to code some more features.

INT TOP20:
# Player Rating
1 Scan 1497.45
2 Dewalt 1437.67
3 Shine 1408.18
4 Bonyth 1395.40
5 parfumetoss 1336.23
6 ZeLoT 1323.98
7 By.Spire 1283.12
8 eOnzerg 1262.38
9 OyA 1207.81
10 ajuk12 1165.13
11 Dandy 1156.27
12 Ultra 1148.80
13 Sziky 1135.47
14 TT1 1132.36
15 DragOn 1116.44
16 KogeT 1112.38
17 ChaeLyn 1108.24
18 Cross 1101.34
19 Famas2 1099.95
20 spx 1081.85

KR TOP 10
# Player Rating
1 Flash 1070.95
2 ZerO 978.20
3 Larva 974.96
4 Light 927.62
5 Best 921.77
6 Snow 889.38
7 PianO 880.69
8 Soma 874.54
9 rush 855.60
10 Shuttle 844.36

Have fun. More on http://rankgim.eu

P.S. I am still searching for some ppl to help, if u like it and want to help, msg me on tl.
P.S.2 U can click a flag/race to see only this country/race ex: http://rankgim.eu/rankings/country/Germany.

Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
November 10 2020 14:06 GMT
#2
Scan in international top20?

he is korean

so are shine, zelot etc.

why bother with the international top 20 if you are going to include korean gosus?
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain346 Posts
November 10 2020 15:15 GMT
#3
Great job there! I look at all these statistics and see a tons of possibilities for data analysts
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
November 10 2020 15:31 GMT
#4
fan of piano but him at 7 is lol. only tvz games in the database?
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
November 10 2020 15:42 GMT
#5
On November 11 2020 00:31 ggsimida wrote:
fan of piano but him at 7 is lol. only tvz games in the database?

http://rankgim.eu/rankings/kor_player/58
The korean rankings currently only include matches from 2020. PianO didnt qualify for asl this year and can't play KCM challenge because hes casting it, so he basically only plays CasterMuse tournaments, where he got top 4 every time this year
IvaNioX2
Profile Joined September 2018
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 17:55:48
November 10 2020 17:47 GMT
#6
how updating system works? (input manually or scrapping?)

maybe community has to created some standarized system to report (im thinking through liquipedia)
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
November 10 2020 17:53 GMT
#7
this is is great, thank you!
aka DragOn[NaS]
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10149 Posts
November 10 2020 17:56 GMT
#8
On November 11 2020 00:42 FakeFin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2020 00:31 ggsimida wrote:
fan of piano but him at 7 is lol. only tvz games in the database?

http://rankgim.eu/rankings/kor_player/58
The korean rankings currently only include matches from 2020. PianO didnt qualify for asl this year and can't play KCM challenge because hes casting it, so he basically only plays CasterMuse tournaments, where he got top 4 every time this year

So in a way, this ranking has definite flaws. It's cool to see, but people shouldn't put too much of their energy into reading into it. I think the raw numbers are great though.
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
November 10 2020 18:07 GMT
#9
Here a foreign Top 25 for those interested:
1. Dewalt
2. Bonyth
3. eOnzerg
4. OyA
5. Dandy
6. Ultra
7. Sziky
8. TT1
9. DragOn
10. KogeT
11. Cross
12. spx
13. Avi-Love
14. Gosudark
15. JaeYun
16. trutacz
17. Browne
18. gktoss
19. Favorit
20. MadiNho
21. Gypsy
22. g0rynich
23. Bakuryu
24. Ty2
25. TerrOr
LML
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
November 10 2020 19:10 GMT
#10
Where are Artosis and Tasteless in the ranking
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
November 10 2020 19:38 GMT
#11
On November 11 2020 04:10 Highwinds wrote:
Where are Artosis and Tasteless in the ranking


Artosis is #127. Tasteless not in there as it seems.
Those two also don't play in any events really to have their matches recorded.
LML
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 20:28:22
November 10 2020 20:11 GMT
#12
Here is search: http://rankgim.eu/rankings/search_int_player

Tasteless have only 1 game, need more than 9 to be visible.

Also:
- players under 750 ELO are not visible on ranking page
- players with no game in last 6 months are hidden on ranking page

Players under 750 ELO who played game in last 6 months are visible in country / race rankings.

Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
November 10 2020 21:17 GMT
#13
This is really nice, great job.

A few suggestions/issues I noticed
- Wouldn't it be more accurate to count individual games rather than series results?
- It looks like random/race picking is not taken into account.
- It would be nice to show a players ranking on their profile page (for example showing flash as #1). Maybe also graph the players ranking over time, I think seeing if someone went from #1 to #3 is more interesting than seeing the change in rating points.
aka StormtoSS
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 21:26:08
November 10 2020 21:25 GMT
#14
ox[tQ] might have some input here, as he's hosted quiet a few spon matches between these players.
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ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
November 10 2020 21:29 GMT
#15
Myfleetingdream created a showmatch rankings sheet for us a while back (see masters result list). Some data there, not sure if it's useful and how much. Unfortunately it hasnt been updated recently.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1r7yIkVXm1t5fgCBtmqzXYy3ddC15602wTfFLMB4GFCI/edit#gid=0&fvid=148457067
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 15:31:13
November 11 2020 15:30 GMT
#16
Was it cash or friendly games? :O
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
586 Posts
November 11 2020 18:19 GMT
#17
what about ultimate battle happening every week? light been killing it for a while now
So... BW is back
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 18:35:29
November 11 2020 18:32 GMT
#18
On November 12 2020 00:30 Poegim wrote:
Was it cash or friendly games? :O


Are you asking that question to me? Most of those matches should be cash prize games ($5 for winner of A rank match and $10 for winner of S rank match).

We also feature F to B rank players (and do 2v2s, 1v2s [scan or yoon vs two D ranks] and free-for-alls)!
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GruGloG
Profile Joined December 2008
Netherlands114 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 19:19:27
November 11 2020 19:17 GMT
#19
On November 11 2020 06:17 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
This is really nice, great job.


- Wouldn't it be more accurate to count individual games rather than series results?
- It looks like random/race picking is not taken into account.


- I really dont think so, the sole goal of a series is to win the series. I dont think it would make any sense to count each game.

- Not sure what you mean, should a player have a different mmr for different races? What race someone plays to win or lose doesn´t really matter.

GruGloG
Profile Joined December 2008
Netherlands114 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 19:19:45
November 11 2020 19:17 GMT
#20
I pressed the quote-button instead of the edit-button and got all confused.
GruGloG
Profile Joined December 2008
Netherlands114 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 19:18:41
November 11 2020 19:17 GMT
#21
Im an idiot
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
November 11 2020 20:09 GMT
#22
On November 12 2020 04:17 GruGloG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2020 06:17 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
This is really nice, great job.


- Wouldn't it be more accurate to count individual games rather than series results?
- It looks like random/race picking is not taken into account.


- I really dont think so, the sole goal of a series is to win the series. I dont think it would make any sense to count each game.

- Not sure what you mean, should a player have a different mmr for different races? What race someone plays to win or lose doesn´t really matter.



- It seems odd to me that winning a series 4-0 counts the same as a 4-3 or 1-0 but I guess that's a matter of opinion then.

- I meant that race picking/random is not taken into account for matchup winrates. Rush played vs Flash random but it counts towards his vs terran winrate. For the korean players this doesnt change much but notably a lot of NA players race pick so for the foreigner stats I think it's fairly significant.
aka StormtoSS
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
November 11 2020 20:32 GMT
#23
Yes, race is assigned to the player then its assigned to the specific game basing on player race.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
November 12 2020 04:15 GMT
#24
On November 12 2020 04:17 GruGloG wrote:
- I really dont think so, the sole goal of a series is to win the series. I dont think it would make any sense to count each game.


If someone played flash in a best of 99, going 49-50 would be very different from 0-99.
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-12 05:38:42
November 12 2020 05:29 GMT
#25
I guess the final score of each match in a prize event doesn’t matter so much when the final winner grabs the largest share of the prize right? But players’ match up scores might mean something outside of a prize centric framework.

Our planned future round robin (“best of the best”) tournament, which features 12 top foreign players and a five game format (330 total games), might prove to be of interest to your independent ranking system...we designed it so that every game will count as almost $10, so each five game showmatch would be worth a total of $50 minimum (with 3k prize pool). In this way, even “losers” of showmatches who won up to two games will be compensated financially. There would be 66 such showmatches in a 12 player round robin tournament.
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GruGloG
Profile Joined December 2008
Netherlands114 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-12 22:31:36
November 12 2020 22:25 GMT
#26
On November 12 2020 13:15 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2020 04:17 GruGloG wrote:
- I really dont think so, the sole goal of a series is to win the series. I dont think it would make any sense to count each game.


If someone played flash in a best of 99, going 49-50 would be very different from 0-99.


When we see a competitive BO99 I promise you to personally put every game in there.


On November 12 2020 05:09 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:

- I meant that race picking/random is not taken into account for matchup winrates. Rush played vs Flash random but it counts towards his vs terran winrate. For the korean players this doesnt change much but notably a lot of NA players race pick so for the foreigner stats I think it's fairly significant.


This is a valid point, not sure how much work it would be to code in race picking in player profiles or what priority it should have but maybe Poegim could fit this on his never ending to do list.
phase
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States399 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-16 00:20:32
November 16 2020 00:06 GMT
#27
On November 11 2020 06:29 ox.tQ wrote:
Myfleetingdream created a showmatch rankings sheet for us a while back (see masters result list). Some data there, not sure if it's useful and how much. Unfortunately it hasnt been updated recently.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1r7yIkVXm1t5fgCBtmqzXYy3ddC15602wTfFLMB4GFCI/edit#gid=0&fvid=148457067


It's been updated!

On November 12 2020 13:15 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On November 12 2020 04:17 GruGloG wrote:
- I really dont think so, the sole goal of a series is to win the series. I dont think it would make any sense to count each game.


If someone played flash in a best of 99, going 49-50 would be very different from 0-99.


I absolutely think it makes sense to count each game, since it generates additional data for you and helps with storylines. E.g. X has never beaten Y in a head-to-head, but on paper X is stronger than Y because his wins in that matchup are more dominant and his losses are closer. Unfortunately, I can understand if it's the case that the data for tournaments from years ago isn't as clean and doesn't have that granularity.

For example, I calculated a similar ELO calculator and Ranking list for the Think Quick showmatch series (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r7yIkVXm1t5fgCBtmqzXYy3ddC15602wTfFLMB4GFCI/edit?usp=sharing), and to improve accuracy, I calculated ELO updates based on individual games as opposed to entire showmatches. I can share the github repo if anyone is interested (the code is super hacked together and messy though lol)

Are you guys crawling Liquipedia to get your data? Like Ox mentioned, we might enter all of the ThinkQuick showmatch results into Liquipedia some day, since each match is for prize money.
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
November 18 2020 19:22 GMT
#28
Added simple toggler for hide koreans. If u cant see it - force reload (ctrl + shift + r in chrome).
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Duke_nk
Profile Joined April 2020
38 Posts
November 18 2020 21:05 GMT
#29
scan best non-korean confirmed
martoto088
Profile Joined August 2020
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-19 19:45:54
November 19 2020 19:45 GMT
#30
That is so unaccurate. Lol'd at Piano TOP 7 KR Also Scan top non kr?
Dewalt, Bonyth, parfumetoss higher than ZeLoT/Shine? Specially Shine, he will beat them same fashion as Larva, playing with his foot.

Something is very wrong with the algorithm you're using or at least it should be called ELO rankings.
Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway633 Posts
November 19 2020 20:01 GMT
#31
On November 20 2020 04:45 martoto088 wrote:
... or at least it should be called ELO rankings.


It says so in the title and in the OP?
It's ok. I still love you <3
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-19 22:22:34
November 19 2020 22:20 GMT
#32
Ok ill call mr ZeLoT in a minute to stop givin games to foreigners so much like now, 5 loses in last 7 games. What about just check games history?
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
November 19 2020 23:33 GMT
#33
First of all, it needs to be one ranking system for the top players. Division into foreign and korrean can be a nice thing to see the difference, but it needs at least the same point system, if not this is just waste of time for the casual people at least. I get that this is based on results,etc. , but the rankings seem off on both parts...
How comes Soma i under all these other playerS? I mean will we just ignore the fact that he got 2nd place in the ASL ? and 4rd in the previous one ? ASL RESULTS NEED TO COUNT THE MOST#

How comes Shine is under Dewalt ? Is this realistic?


Bonyth under Dewalt ? Didnt he just won BSL again? The biggest tournament for the foreign scene?
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
November 20 2020 00:44 GMT
#34
On November 20 2020 08:33 Leonix wrote:
First of all, it needs to be one ranking system for the top players. Division into foreign and korrean can be a nice thing to see the difference, but it needs at least the same point system, if not this is just waste of time for the casual people at least. I get that this is based on results,etc. , but the rankings seem off on both parts...
How comes Soma i under all these other playerS? I mean will we just ignore the fact that he got 2nd place in the ASL ? and 4rd in the previous one ? ASL RESULTS NEED TO COUNT THE MOST#

How comes Shine is under Dewalt ? Is this realistic?


Bonyth under Dewalt ? Didnt he just won BSL again? The biggest tournament for the foreign scene?

1) This only takes games until end of october into account, so later rounds of asl10 and bsl10 aren't in there
2) Just tell Soma to do better in tournaments besides asl
3) Just tell Bonyth to do better in tournaments besides bsl
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10138 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-20 02:15:34
November 20 2020 02:08 GMT
#35
On November 20 2020 08:33 Leonix wrote:
First of all, it needs to be one ranking system for the top players. Division into foreign and korrean can be a nice thing to see the difference, but it needs at least the same point system, if not this is just waste of time for the casual people at least. I get that this is based on results,etc. , but the rankings seem off on both parts...
How comes Soma i under all these other playerS? I mean will we just ignore the fact that he got 2nd place in the ASL ? and 4rd in the previous one ? ASL RESULTS NEED TO COUNT THE MOST#

How comes Shine is under Dewalt ? Is this realistic?


Bonyth under Dewalt ? Didnt he just won BSL again? The biggest tournament for the foreign scene?

Hey man, math, rankings, and dates are hard concepts, so let me try to make it a little easier to understand.

Let's say I have 10 apples. I've been buying an apple every day for the past 10 days. Boy, I sure love apples!

Let's say you aren't a big fan of apples, but your mommy went to the store today and you got FIVE apples! That's huge! Certainly way more apples than I got today, or even the past few days!

But, who has the most apples right now - is it you, or me?

I have 10 apples, and you have just 5 apples, so I have more apples - even though recently you got a lot of them! Just because I have more apples than you now, it doesn't mean that you can't ask your mommy to buy 5 apples for the next two days and have even more apples than I do!

Now, keep in mind, that no matter what we do - our apples are worth the same. After all, they are just apples! It doesn't matter if you got your apples from your mommy or if I bought them myself, they are just apples, no matter how easily we got them or in what way.

I hope this helps!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-20 09:00:19
November 20 2020 08:58 GMT
#36
FakeFin and Jealous explained it very good and this is called OCT due to October, BSL final was in November... Did u even read 1st post? Next update - next month - its monthly, and NOV isnt even finished.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-20 10:16:40
November 20 2020 10:13 GMT
#37
On November 20 2020 04:45 martoto088 wrote:
That is so unaccurate. Lol'd at Piano TOP 7 KR Also Scan top non kr?
Dewalt, Bonyth, parfumetoss higher than ZeLoT/Shine? Specially Shine, he will beat them same fashion as Larva, playing with his foot.

Something is very wrong with the algorithm you're using or at least it should be called ELO rankings.


poegim is doing a hard work and i like seeing his effort organizing datas. But since you don't like his data analysis with rankings, I highly recommend you to look at here then.
This is excluded offline tournament record. Only online+sponbbang matches

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martoto088
Profile Joined August 2020
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-20 13:43:52
November 20 2020 13:42 GMT
#38
[QUOTE]On November 20 2020 19:13 LaStScan wrote:
[QUOTE]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/EuWivK8.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/1rIrNg0.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/FhfwT9W.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/y17y5bJ.png[/img][/QUOTE]

Yeah, that helps a lot :D Any chance to get that in english or some notable translated by you?

I apreciate a ton of poegim work and i like seeing his effort organizing datas, but there is no way on earth someone to convice me Shine won't beat Dewalt, Bonyth and parfumetoss playing with his foot

Flash 1070.95 ELO, ajuk12 or whoever 1165.13... come on

[QUOTE]On November 20 2020 08:33 Leonix wrote:
ASL RESULTS NEED TO COUNT THE MOST#
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On November 20 2020 09:44 FakeFin wrote:
[QUOTE]
2) Just tell Soma to do better in tournaments besides asl
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On November 20 2020 09:44 FakeFin wrote:
1) This only takes games until end of october into account, so later rounds of asl10 and bsl10 aren't in there
[/QUOTE]

Only qualifing for ASL should count like winning BSL 10 times in a row
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
November 20 2020 16:34 GMT
#39
On November 20 2020 22:42 martoto088 wrote:
Flash 1070.95 ELO, ajuk12 or whoever 1165.13... come on

Your elo number just shows how high you're above average, the average player in the korean scene would someone like YSC or Mong, because only the top level competition is taken into account.
The average player in the foreign scene would be someone like ClickMer or VinGzil.
The reasone why these rankings have to be seperated is because there are not enough matches between the scenes and people would complain that Scan, Dewalt and Bonyth are ranked way higher than Flash in the same ranking
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
November 20 2020 16:37 GMT
#40
On November 20 2020 22:42 martoto088 wrote:
Only qualifing for ASL should count like winning BSL 10 times in a row

It does because they both count nothing! Elo ranking is not based on results but based on matches played (it works like MMR but for only tournament matches)
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42569 Posts
November 30 2020 20:03 GMT
#41
Is it possible to do this by games rather than series. I always go 1-2 in every bwcl and stpl I play but I've got a lot of 1-2s against very good players.
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idegelchik
Profile Joined September 2012
Russian Federation382 Posts
October 12 2021 08:44 GMT
#42
On November 11 2020 03:07 LML wrote:
Here a foreign Top 25 for those interested:
1. Dewalt
2. Bonyth
3. eOnzerg
4. OyA
5. Dandy
6. Ultra
7. Sziky
8. TT1
9. DragOn
10. KogeT
11. Cross
12. spx
13. Avi-Love
14. Gosudark
15. JaeYun
16. trutacz
17. Browne
18. gktoss
19. Favorit
20. MadiNho
21. Gypsy
22. g0rynich
23. Bakuryu
24. Ty2
25. TerrOr
I'm of course sorry, but Where is Lancerx?
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
October 12 2021 19:07 GMT
#43
On October 12 2021 17:44 idegelchik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2020 03:07 LML wrote:
Here a foreign Top 25 for those interested:
1. Dewalt
2. Bonyth
3. eOnzerg
4. OyA
5. Dandy
6. Ultra
7. Sziky
8. TT1
9. DragOn
10. KogeT
11. Cross
12. spx
13. Avi-Love
14. Gosudark
15. JaeYun
16. trutacz
17. Browne
18. gktoss
19. Favorit
20. MadiNho
21. Gypsy
22. g0rynich
23. Bakuryu
24. Ty2
25. TerrOr
I'm of course sorry, but Where is Lancerx?


in Russia afaik.

Concerning the ranking, the page doesn't exist anymore. There is a new effort though, and you can look for him there: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/578081-starcraft-remastered-foreigner-ranking
Lancerx is also playing in the BSL ladder as BSL-Maharaja and is very active: https://bombasticstarleague.com/tournaments/bombastic-starleague-13/bsl13-ladder-stage
LML
TeamThinkQuick
Profile Joined March 2021
200 Posts
October 12 2021 19:28 GMT
#44
Both lists seem to be outdated or incorrect as we can't find Julia's name in either one.
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
October 14 2021 10:46 GMT
#45
Bonjwa LancerX Protoss King Pavel is so good that he has been moved to Koreans Pro ranking, thats the reason.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
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