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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
July 20 2020 18:01 GMT
#101
The way I see it, you ARE the warning now... And it seems to be common sense not to behave this way ever, especially when supervised...
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
lpapp
Profile Joined July 2020
5 Posts
July 20 2020 19:56 GMT
#102
I think you take it too seriously. It is just a game and people get excited in the game. Most often, it is not bad people outside the game. They would never use such chat outside. Just like some football players also behave differently on the ground in excitement. Many people have used swearing at me, too. I will do my best to avoid this going forward. Once again, I sincerely apologise for the inconvenience caused by this during the game. So, thank you for the feedback after all.
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland301 Posts
July 21 2020 11:18 GMT
#103
On July 20 2020 23:44 lpapp wrote:
Thank you for your answer and explanation.

I agree with you that the overall atmosphere of battlenet could be better. People could be warned and talked to change this when unacceptable. Battlenet is full of this.

However, I still disagree with banning people without warning. If you do not let people know about this, they will not change. Maybe, immediate inconsiderate reactions are not considerate to inconsiderate messages.

I am happy to change this, which I mainly picked up because people used to talk to me like that when I was a noob. I do not want to go into technicalities, but I have developed a bullet proof jacket for these over time. Even now that I tried to play nice, I had a team mate swearing at me when, in fact, he was not playing so well according to apm and scores. I assume he did not get banned. But yeah, it is not an excuse though for sure. I agree about that.

But banning without any prior warning or notice is still not the best way to go. Everyone should get a chance.

Having said that, I do sincerely apologise for my messages and will try to avoid them in the future. Thank you for your work.



Ok, I've lifted the ban. The system should no longer kick you from lobby.

As for warnings I might add a message that is displayed before the game that will inform players on what not to do. Also system for reporting swearing and team killing would be useful so I might add this when I have more time.

On July 20 2020 23:47 lpapp wrote:
I do not think it is a good idea not to allow new accounts to play. Not everyone will purchase the paid version to play ranked games. They should be able to play with the free version.


The initial bghmmr is based on custom games. I don't have access to ladder stats and I'm sure you can play custom games with unpaid version of BW. I play like this. The idea to kick players with fresh accounts from lobby comes from the fact that they very often make games unbalanced, because there is no way to tell how good they. For now implementing this is not a top priority. First I want to get higher stability of the system so that it runs for the whole day with no crashes.
https://bghmmr.eu
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6175 Posts
July 22 2020 09:17 GMT
#104
On July 21 2020 04:56 lpapp wrote:
I think you take it too seriously. It is just a game and people get excited in the game. Most often, it is not bad people outside the game. They would never use such chat outside. Just like some football players also behave differently on the ground in excitement. Many people have used swearing at me, too. I will do my best to avoid this going forward. Once again, I sincerely apologise for the inconvenience caused by this during the game. So, thank you for the feedback after all.

its just the same few people in broodwar bnet who BMs in each game. The community is quite goodmannered otherwise.
CatKillProgram
Profile Joined July 2020
4 Posts
July 28 2020 12:37 GMT
#105
Hi there, nice app you made! For some reasons winners and loosers were incorrectly identified in game played on 2020-07-28 14:08
Krang[ma], c7b3rr, narkotik lost and CatKillProgram, UrkeBurke, NlMROD actually win.[image loading]
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
July 28 2020 13:06 GMT
#106
I'll be happy to try it out. Loved BGH as kid but hated imba so I'd rather go 1v7 comps

It's people like you that keep BW and the demoscene spirit alive! Thanks so much
The heart's eternal vow
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway691 Posts
July 28 2020 14:11 GMT
#107
I have played with lpapp and hes really bm. I even tried to help him survive early in the game as he was zerg and alone at 11oclock. The he starts whispering me lots of shit after the game is over.

Why is it that you behave that way, even the other players in that game got tired of you bullshit.
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
July 28 2020 18:59 GMT
#108
On July 28 2020 21:37 CatKillProgram wrote:
Hi there, nice app you made! For some reasons winners and loosers were incorrectly identified in game played on 2020-07-28 14:08
Krang[ma], c7b3rr, narkotik lost and CatKillProgram, UrkeBurke, NlMROD actually win.[image loading]


Saw this a couple of times as well
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway691 Posts
July 28 2020 19:05 GMT
#109
Btw when people without 20 games played joines, the bot is trying to whisper the player but its \w instead of /w
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland301 Posts
July 28 2020 20:00 GMT
#110
On July 28 2020 21:37 CatKillProgram wrote:
Hi there, nice app you made! For some reasons winners and loosers were incorrectly identified in game played on 2020-07-28 14:08
Krang[ma], c7b3rr, narkotik lost and CatKillProgram, UrkeBurke, NlMROD actually win.[image loading]



On July 29 2020 03:59 Passion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2020 21:37 CatKillProgram wrote:
Hi there, nice app you made! For some reasons winners and loosers were incorrectly identified in game played on 2020-07-28 14:08
Krang[ma], c7b3rr, narkotik lost and CatKillProgram, UrkeBurke, NlMROD actually win.[image loading]


Saw this a couple of times as well


Yeah, I am aware that sometimes the system selects wrong team as winners. The problem comes from the fact that replays only contain information about players leaving the game. So If someone gets eliminated and doesn't leave the game and all other players leave, he is the only one in game and system thinks that he won.

I plan to fix that, but that will require some time. For now you can wait with leaving for eliminated players to leave. Game throws out eliminated players after a short period of time.

On July 29 2020 04:05 Timebon3s wrote:
Btw when people without 20 games played joines, the bot is trying to whisper the player but its \w instead of /w


Thanks for noting this. I've just fixed it.

On July 28 2020 23:11 Timebon3s wrote:
I have played with lpapp and hes really bm. I even tried to help him survive early in the game as he was zerg and alone at 11oclock. The he starts whispering me lots of shit after the game is over.

Why is it that you behave that way, even the other players in that game got tired of you bullshit.


There really should be option to mute all whispers...
https://bghmmr.eu
CatKillProgram
Profile Joined July 2020
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 08:56:22
July 29 2020 08:20 GMT
#111
What about judging on sum of points? Is there any game where lost team had more points than winners? Probably it is not contained in replay but can be captured from screenshot
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland301 Posts
July 29 2020 08:56 GMT
#112
On July 29 2020 17:20 CatKillProgram wrote:
What about judging on sum of points? Is there any game where lost team had more points than winners?


Well, replay files contain only actions of players. So I don't have access to info on points, units build, buildings made and so on. I also don't know if player was eliminated.

All this info is generated by BW engine which is closed source and proprietary.

I could write custom OCR to read this info from results picture but again that is not so easy.
https://bghmmr.eu
CatKillProgram
Profile Joined July 2020
4 Posts
July 29 2020 09:45 GMT
#113
btw you can simply add an announcement by bot to leave game last. little amount of ppl know about that.
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
July 31 2020 13:05 GMT
#114
The MMR range in a game needs to be limited, the balance means nothing right now.
Calendaraka Foxhan
CatKillProgram
Profile Joined July 2020
4 Posts
July 31 2020 13:37 GMT
#115
what do you mean? the games i played are quite balanced
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland301 Posts
July 31 2020 17:30 GMT
#116
On July 31 2020 22:05 HaN- wrote:
The MMR range in a game needs to be limited, the balance means nothing right now.


When you talk about MMR range you mean awful players ruining the game or superb players?

In either case that would mean kicking players out just because their MMR makes the game hard to balance. This seems to be extreme measure especially considering that Europe server is barely alive.
https://bghmmr.eu
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
July 31 2020 18:20 GMT
#117
On August 01 2020 02:30 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2020 22:05 HaN- wrote:
The MMR range in a game needs to be limited, the balance means nothing right now.


When you talk about MMR range you mean awful players ruining the game or superb players?

In either case that would mean kicking players out just because their MMR makes the game hard to balance. This seems to be extreme measure especially considering that Europe server is barely alive.


Awful players.

Barely alive really? I have the impression it's pretty active, with games filling up instantly most of the times.
There could be like games for SAB players and games for DEF with C players allowed in both.
Calendaraka Foxhan
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway691 Posts
July 31 2020 18:32 GMT
#118
These autobalacing bghs fills up really fast and I have no problems getting 1v1 or 3v3s on europe.
But early in the days its pretty dead but u can get ladder games tho
slavorum
Profile Joined August 2020
1 Post
August 12 2020 16:53 GMT
#119
Hello,

I've got a ban for attacking teammates. I am sorry for my wrong behavior, it will not happen again. Is it possible to lift the ban please?

Thank you.
Tuggback
Profile Joined August 2020
Sweden9 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-12 18:55:07
August 12 2020 18:53 GMT
#120
Thank you for a great bot! I really appreciate it!

Now a complain. Player ImbaJustusHeart attacked me and Vladok in a game we would otherwhise have won. We were all three in the same team! So teamkill in other words. I sincerely hope you can ban him.

The game was played 2020-08-12 19:54.
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