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DreamHack Leipzig 2020 BW LAN - SURVEY

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
October 18 2019 14:06 GMT
#1
Hungry for more foreign StarCraft action after DreamHack Montreal, the AfreecaTV LA LAN, the NY LAN Tournament, and Corrupted Cup? Let's keep the ball rolling and see if we can bring Brood War to DreamHack Leipzig in January 2020.

DISCLAIMER: THIS THREAD'S PURPOSE IS TO GAUGE COMMUNITY INTEREST. NOTHING IS SET IN STONE YET. THE OP WILL BE UPDATED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

Date: 25-26 January 2020
Location: DreamHack Leipzig
Tournament type: BYOC (You'd need a BYOC ticket - 109 euro/ea)

Poll: Interested?

I'd watch. (72)
 
71%

I'd like to come, but I don't have a computer to bring with. (15)
 
15%

I'd come and compete. (14)
 
14%

101 total votes

Your vote: Interested?

(Vote): I'd come and compete.
(Vote): I'd watch.
(Vote): I'd like to come, but I don't have a computer to bring with.



A few people are looking into possible prize purse contributions and such, I'll keep youse posted.

WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6815 Posts
October 18 2019 14:14 GMT
#2
What a BYOC ticket offers? Based in that poll i asume not a computer ofc.
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States670 Posts
October 18 2019 15:00 GMT
#3
On October 18 2019 23:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
What a BYOC ticket offers? Based in that poll i asume not a computer ofc.


... Or based in the acronym BYOC: Bring Your Own Computer.
aka: Yaj
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6815 Posts
October 18 2019 15:30 GMT
#4
On October 19 2019 00:00 Q~Bert wrote:
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On October 18 2019 23:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
What a BYOC ticket offers? Based in that poll i asume not a computer ofc.


... Or based in the acronym BYOC: Bring Your Own Computer.

damn it makes a lot of sense.didnt know that was the term LOL. So what a BYOC ticket offers ?
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
October 18 2019 15:51 GMT
#5
On October 18 2019 23:06 Ziggy wrote:
Hungry for more foreign StarCraft action after DreamHack Montreal, the AfreecaTV LA LAN, the NY LAN Tournament, and Corrupted Cup? Let's keep the ball rolling and see if we can bring Brood War to DreamHack Leipzig in January 2020.

DISCLAIMER: THIS THREAD'S PURPOSE IS TO GAUGE COMMUNITY INTEREST. NOTHING IS SET IN STONE YET. THE OP WILL BE UPDATED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

Date: 25-26 January 2020
Location: DreamHack Leipzig
Tournament type: BYOC (You'd need a BYOC ticket - 109 euro/ea)

Poll: Interested?

I'd watch. (72)
 
71%

I'd like to come, but I don't have a computer to bring with. (15)
 
15%

I'd come and compete. (14)
 
14%

101 total votes

Your vote: Interested?

(Vote): I'd come and compete.
(Vote): I'd watch.
(Vote): I'd like to come, but I don't have a computer to bring with.



A few people are looking into possible prize purse contributions and such, I'll keep youse posted.


Can you explain the tournament type line a bit more? I interpret this line as you have to bring your own computer and pay 109€ to get a seat (whatever "ea" means) which sounds like a rip-off to me.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
October 18 2019 16:03 GMT
#6
Nach Ostdeutschland fahr ich nur auf Ketten.
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation376 Posts
October 18 2019 16:08 GMT
#7
Definitely no. With byoc and 109euro It sounds like a expensive party, not a tournament.
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States670 Posts
October 18 2019 16:29 GMT
#8
On October 19 2019 01:08 iFU.spx wrote:
Definitely no. With byoc and 109euro It sounds like a expensive party, not a tournament.


Will there be girls there?
aka: Yaj
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 18 2019 17:04 GMT
#9
On October 19 2019 01:08 iFU.spx wrote:
Definitely no. With byoc and 109euro It sounds like a expensive party, not a tournament.


As much as i like the idea, i have to agree with this. So no until something changes?
Broodwar for life!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
October 18 2019 17:23 GMT
#10
I mean what would be the prize pool then? If it's like a 5k$ tournament then 109eur for a ticket is fine..
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1780 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 18:32:51
October 18 2019 18:31 GMT
#11
On October 19 2019 02:23 kogeT wrote:
I mean what would be the prize pool then? If it's like a 5k$ tournament then 109eur for a ticket is fine..


this is the only good reason to charge this much.
I clicked on "I will attend and play" before seeing that. But 109 just for a table+chair, nothx
LML
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
October 18 2019 18:52 GMT
#12
Quite expensive, why Dreamhack to have a BW Lan, booking a Internet cafe seems like a cheaper option.
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SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 19:12:36
October 18 2019 19:01 GMT
#13
This was the reason I felt DreamHack Montreal was also a deterrent for many people. It was BYOC AND ~150$ to basically reserve a table (a "seat").

LA LAN had no sort of extra cost, and NYC LAN has about a 30$ charge (20$ for a computer, and 10$ which adds to the prize pool). At least if there's a cost, and it's very minimal, it's no big deal.

It's not logical for many players to pursue it with an extra cost that's just a "seat." But as Koget said, if there's a huge prize pool, then that's a different story. It's all about the value, especially if people are going to travel.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
October 18 2019 20:46 GMT
#14
On October 19 2019 01:03 GeckoXp wrote:
Nach Ostdeutschland fahr ich nur auf Ketten.


Was about to post this. Glad someone else already did.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
October 18 2019 23:55 GMT
#15
I think it would be pretty difficult to bring your own computer from USA to Europe, I for one do not like playing on a laptop, and putting a Desktop into your luggage and onto a plane with security now a days is a big hassle, I have done it before but they legit thought I had a bomb and TSA basically raped me.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
October 21 2019 11:17 GMT
#16
visibility bump
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
October 21 2019 13:31 GMT
#17
So this is pretty much a 'Rus_Brain, please think about this' thread, right? Because without a prize pool it is not going to happen.

Then we need to bump this one up once more, I guess.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
October 21 2019 13:51 GMT
#18
No, this is a bump to, as stated in the OP, gauge interest in a potential event. DreamHack were kind enough to sponsor a decent prizepool at DH Montreal and this thread is to see whether Europe would be as keen to partake in a similar initiative.

While nothing has been confirmed yet, I wouldn't have brought it up if I hadn't contacted the same people who managed to secure us that CAD 2k in Montreal. I'm in talks with one more person, who has a considerable amount of experience running events, and figured throwing this subject out there wouldn't hurt (and could possibly see what they themselves could do in terms of prize purse contributions).

I'm clearly not suggesting we meet up to play 'for fun'. I wouldn't come myself if there were no money on the line. We're seeing how much interest there is in a BYOC tournament. Once that's done, we'll see what can be done in terms of prizes. And only then does everyone decide if it's worth bothering. Exactly the same process as in the case of DH Montreal. If you're not interested, that's perfectly all right. But please do not insinuate mendicancy or anything along those lines.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28761 Posts
October 21 2019 14:35 GMT
#19
byoc (don't want to play on laptop), plane trip, $109 entry fee, all this makes it a bit much. (while I did go to big lans in the past, I feel too old for it now.)

So nice effort, would be great if something could happen. But for me, while I am planning on going to the inferno online gathering in Stockholm, I'll end up sitting this one out.
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 21 2019 19:43 GMT
#20
On October 19 2019 04:01 SuGo wrote:
This was the reason I felt DreamHack Montreal was also a deterrent for many people. It was BYOC AND ~150$ to basically reserve a table (a "seat").

LA LAN had no sort of extra cost, and NYC LAN has about a 30$ charge (20$ for a computer, and 10$ which adds to the prize pool). At least if there's a cost, and it's very minimal, it's no big deal.

It's not logical for many players to pursue it with an extra cost that's just a "seat." But as Koget said, if there's a huge prize pool, then that's a different story. It's all about the value, especially if people are going to travel.


Plus, if the extra money goes back to people in the scene i don't mind. I gladly donated 250 $ to corrupted cup, an event i didnt even attend. No regrets. But i have no personal relation to DH. Thats different for me.
Broodwar for life!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
October 22 2019 10:09 GMT
#21
I could do a family trip by car and bring my computer with me, so count me in. (voted would play)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
October 23 2019 14:41 GMT
#22
where there's a will there's a way!
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
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