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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 11:17:02
September 20 2019 11:00 GMT
#1
If my enemy is lower than me, I scare that I will have to lost so much my points from noobs or trollers. If my enemy is higher than me, I get hopeless to play, so I know I can't win him.

If I don't see mmr of enemies. I can play confidently.

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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
September 20 2019 11:13 GMT
#2
I have a suggestion - dont look at it!
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 11:32:27
September 20 2019 11:29 GMT
#3
when you hear the notification
just use your arm to cover the part of the screen showing the mmr. so you can see the race but not the name/mmr,

in seriousness you just need to learn some way of handling anxiety. a good way is to develop a positive rational mindset

>If my enemy is lower than me, I scare that I will have to lost so much my points from noobs or trollers.
the FACT is that he has lower mmr than you do. why you should be scared of him in the first place? stay calm and play your regular game. if you scared of smurfs don't ever play during non-peak korean hours.

> If my enemy is higher than me, I get hopeless to play, so I know I can win him.
rather than "oh i lose for sure so hopeless", see it as an great opportunity to play against a superior opponent to hone your skills further. stay in the game as long as possible and try to frustrate and cause problems for him. you lose, you drop very little points. you win, congrats you have improved as a player. so essentially you have nothing to lose.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
September 20 2019 11:34 GMT
#4
If I see someone has over 200 mmr above me I usually leave (unless my mmr is a lot lower than my average mmr).
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden522 Posts
September 20 2019 11:37 GMT
#5
You can see it from a positive angle instead:

If you're much higher ranked -> play safe
if they're much higher ranked -> cheeze (bbs, cc first, etc)
if ranks are close -> play normal/standard

or something similar that makes you play confortable :-)
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
September 20 2019 13:10 GMT
#6
Learn how to dont care, train your willpower.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Connor5620
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia203 Posts
September 20 2019 13:24 GMT
#7
mmr isn't a term of how good someone is thats how i look at it anyway given on how many people can easily delete and remake different profiles so mmr i don't think means as much as people think i could be wrong?
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 13:44:17
September 20 2019 13:38 GMT
#8
On September 20 2019 20:37 A.Alm wrote:
You can see it from a positive angle instead:

If you're much higher ranked -> play safe
if they're much higher ranked -> cheeze (bbs, cc first, etc)
if ranks are close -> play normal/standard

or something similar that makes you play confortable :-)


Misread the comment
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
September 20 2019 14:08 GMT
#9
On September 20 2019 20:29 ggsimida wrote:
when you hear the notification
just use your arm to cover the part of the screen showing the mmr. so you can see the race but not the name/mmr,


just don't look at the screen. Ingame you can look at the diplomacy tab to see their race. And the map is quite apparent by positioning, theme and mineral formations.
LML
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1184 Posts
September 20 2019 14:22 GMT
#10
I made this cardboard cover out of a large litttle caesars pizza box that has a slit that covers the name and MMR but shows the races and maps.
Flash should fear Sacsri
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States649 Posts
September 20 2019 15:19 GMT
#11
Keeping a positive mindset goes a long way. When I get matched against someone with 200 more MMR than me, I like to see it as a free lesson. Sure, I'm almost certainly going to get trounced, but there's no better way to learn than getting one's ass kicked imo.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 15:35:22
September 20 2019 15:34 GMT
#12
Create a mod that covers the number and instead gives you a verbal warning:

Your MMR >Their MMR : "You got dis bro"
Your MMR =(similar)=Their MMR : "Outlook uncertain"
Your MMR < Their MMR : "You're fucked"
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 15:38:05
September 20 2019 15:37 GMT
#13
On September 20 2019 20:29 ggsimida wrote:
when you hear the notification
just use your arm to cover the part of the screen showing the mmr. so you can see the race but not the name/mmr,

lmao

in seriousness you just need to learn some way of handling anxiety. a good way is to develop a positive rational mindset

If my enemy is lower than me, I scare that I will have to lost so much my points from noobs or trollers.
the FACT is that he has lower mmr than you do. why you should be scared of him in the first place? stay calm and play your regular game. if you scared of smurfs don't ever play during non-peak korean hours.


maybe his level more than me, but he just gets 10 lose games in a row. He really want to kill me. So I still scare of him.

> If my enemy is higher than me, I get hopeless to play, so I know I can win him.
rather than "oh i lose for sure so hopeless", see it as an great opportunity to play against a superior opponent to hone your skills further. stay in the game as long as possible and try to frustrate and cause problems for him. you lose, you drop very little points. you win, congrats you have improved as a player. so essentially you have nothing to lose.


Honestly, if he has more than 200 points, I have no learn anything. Difference of level is so terrible to learn. Even he knows how to kill me so fast. Anyway, I thank your advices.
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
September 20 2019 15:44 GMT
#14
On September 20 2019 20:37 A.Alm wrote:
You can see it from a positive angle instead:

If you're much higher ranked -> play safe
if they're much higher ranked -> cheeze (bbs, cc first, etc)
if ranks are close -> play normal/standard

or something similar that makes you play confortable :-)

mmr points is really mind game.

Lower players usually cheese to higher players. Higher players usually play safely to lower players. We need to invest some IQ to counter this. I always play safely with higher players and cheese with lower players.

I also take BBS or CC first to kill random players. Random players like 3 hatch before pool, 12 nexus and CC first or double facs, starports.
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Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 16:15:47
September 20 2019 16:13 GMT
#15
On September 21 2019 00:19 Katkishka wrote:
Keeping a positive mindset goes a long way. When I get matched against someone with 200 more MMR than me, I like to see it as a free lesson. Sure, I'm almost certainly going to get trounced, but there's no better way to learn than getting one's ass kicked imo.

I've heard this from more players but I disagree, Ok, maybe +200mmr you can learn something, but if your opponent is so much better, like 400, then you won't really learn a thing (especially on lower levels) until that guy goes over the replay with you and tells you point by point your mistakes... So to say only playing against a much better opponent is the best way to learn is in my opinion totally wrong.

Ontopic: just try to not care about mmr, of course it's easy to say...
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 20 2019 18:04 GMT
#16
I don't know what rock you uploaded those images to but it took like 5 minutes to download them.
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
September 20 2019 18:08 GMT
#17
I know this might sound like a dumb cliche but I've conditioned myself into having a more relaxed mindset and overall maybe even playing a bit better against higher MMR opponents, since it's not a super big mental loss if I lose a game or two against them.

Of course if I CONSTANTLY hit them it starts to get annoying but...
Mine gas, build tanks.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States649 Posts
September 20 2019 18:24 GMT
#18
On September 21 2019 01:13 Szinkler wrote:
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On September 21 2019 00:19 Katkishka wrote:
Keeping a positive mindset goes a long way. When I get matched against someone with 200 more MMR than me, I like to see it as a free lesson. Sure, I'm almost certainly going to get trounced, but there's no better way to learn than getting one's ass kicked imo.

I've heard this from more players but I disagree, Ok, maybe +200mmr you can learn something, but if your opponent is so much better, like 400, then you won't really learn a thing (especially on lower levels) until that guy goes over the replay with you and tells you point by point your mistakes... So to say only playing against a much better opponent is the best way to learn is in my opinion totally wrong.

Ontopic: just try to not care about mmr, of course it's easy to say...


Personally, I see the game as sort of a puzzle almost. If I'm losing, that means what I'm doing isn't good enough, and so I look over my replays and see what can be done better, what could be done differently, etc. If I get really stumped I tend to go study pros for a while. I use this method often when I'm learning other games/hobbies too.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 19:21:45
September 20 2019 19:07 GMT
#19
If it's mirror against a good guy like in your pictures then you get a free replay to study a good opening in depth.

I recommend you don't try to hide the rank because as you wrote: people play differently if they face a much higher/lower rank, and you shouldn't just ladder like a robot, same thing every game/map/opponent.

If you don't like the term "learning experience" against better players - because you cannot learn much from getting steam-rolled by superior mechanics/micro - then maybe try to see it rather as a training experience: not "what can I learn" but "how many minutes can I survive?".
I think that attitude fits a match better where you will lose 9 out of 10 games (or even more): You know he/she's leagues above you, it's not about winning or learning anything right now. The only thing that matters is that you don't give up, that you burn everything you have for as long as you can, that maybe you can impress him/her even if only for a moment.

Analyze later on if you're not sure that you just lost because you f***ed up your macro or control at some point. In many of these games I realize the exact moment where things started to go downhill because I got pressured harder than usual and messed something up that I normally do better.

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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
September 20 2019 19:44 GMT
#20
Just don't look at it, or the players name. Focus on the race you are playing only, you are not alone.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
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