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Patch 1.23 - Ladder Season 4 & StarCraft: Cartooned

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iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 22:48:35
July 09 2019 21:26 GMT
#1
Official Starcraft Forum Post

//Matt Sherman

Greetings Cerebrates, Commanders, and Executors,

Patch 1.23.0 has arrived.

Features and Improvements

New Content!

StarCraft: Cartooned: This is a complete reskin for the campaign and multiplayer utilizing the lighthearted charm of Carbot Animations.

“Hey Jini” announcer: Celebrity “Hey Jini” is beloved by kids of all ages in Korea and is the perfect pairing for StarCraft: Cartooned

(both items are available in the Collections menu)

Welcome to Season 4!

New Carbot Animations themed ranked play rewards. S, A, B, U rank portraits.

Map pool update:

(2) Overwatch
(2) Tres Pass
(3) Power Bond
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
(4) Gladiator 1.1

Ranks:

S Rank – Top 1% of players
A Rank – 7%
B Rank – 21%
C Rank – 21%
D Rank – 21%
E Rank – 21%
F Rank – 8%

(For the first two weeks ranks will be MMR bucketed based on last season’s data. After which we will switch to the percentage-based breakdown above.)

Additional notes:

SCR is now 64-bit compatible. An opt-in option is now available in the Battle.net application. We’d very much appreciate you guys giving this a go as it will become the only option available on Mac later this year.

Input update from PTR - Keyboard commands will now work when the mouse is held down.

Voices of Legend announcers have been updated with better stereo sound.

StarEdit is no longer included with StarCraft: Remastered. We recommend using SCMDraft 2 4.

SCMDraft 2 offers extended tileset doodads that we do not support in Cartooned. Because of this, some player made maps will not be fully skinned.
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Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
July 09 2019 21:29 GMT
#2
I'm glad to see that they are focusing on the important stuff. Things like cartoon skins and avatars, mac support, and voice announcer with better stereo.
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
July 09 2019 21:32 GMT
#3
Gladiator again T_T was hoping for Sylphid
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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
July 09 2019 21:35 GMT
#4
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.
Calendaraka Foxhan
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 21:38:13
July 09 2019 21:37 GMT
#5
Input update from PTR - Keyboard commands will now work when the mouse is held down.


also fucking blockchain out of all maps making into pool zeus almighty
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
July 09 2019 21:40 GMT
#6
What maps are Tres Pass and Power Bond?
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
July 09 2019 21:50 GMT
#7
On July 10 2019 06:40 CobaltBlu wrote:
What maps are Tres Pass and Power Bond?


https://www.ygosu.com/community/real_article/st1/246189/?page=2&frombest=Y
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 22:11:51
July 09 2019 22:09 GMT
#8
Did this patch literally not only destroyed StarEdit but broke SCMDraft (0.9.08 latest version) making maps now unloadable?!! It asks me to locate directory tried the folder, tried x86 and x86_64 (which exe's are located) nothing works!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
July 09 2019 22:25 GMT
#9
NEUTRAL CC ON POWERBOND! O_O
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radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
July 09 2019 22:28 GMT
#10
On July 10 2019 07:09 outscar wrote:
Did this patch literally not only destroyed StarEdit but broke SCMDraft (0.9.08 latest version) making maps now unloadable?!! It asks me to locate directory tried the folder, tried x86 and x86_64 (which exe's are located) nothing works!


Would be funny if SCMDraft required something from StarEdit to work properly and they didn't check it before releasing patch :D
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Rasowy
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland6 Posts
July 09 2019 22:34 GMT
#11
when ladder reset ?
Ras Ras don't haras, be good or be an ass !
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
July 09 2019 22:40 GMT
#12
input fixed and new season/maps, NAICE
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
July 09 2019 22:44 GMT
#13
Blizzard removed the ability to put brackets in your name. Another clan tag identifier down?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
July 09 2019 22:50 GMT
#14
Any samples of this Hey Jini girl? I've never heard of her in my life.
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
July 09 2019 22:58 GMT
#15
New maps:

(2)Tres Pass:
author: Freakling (based on a concept by -NegativeZero-)
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(3)Power Bond:
author: Jungleterrain
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[image loading]
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 22:59:11
July 09 2019 22:58 GMT
#16
I checked out the map Tres Pass and there seems to be a problem with 2 mineral patches at the natural of the 12 o'clock spawn. Workers don't mine from them without an explicit order.

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Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
July 09 2019 23:01 GMT
#17
Where did you get that way outdated version from anyways?
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
July 09 2019 23:01 GMT
#18
First time I'm hearing of Tres Pass?
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
July 09 2019 23:05 GMT
#19
Nice patch, a bit of changes in the map pool is always welcomed.
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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
July 09 2019 23:08 GMT
#20
On July 10 2019 08:01 Freakling wrote:
Where did you get that way outdated version from anyways?

In case this was directed at me - from the 2019Season2 folder.
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 23:23:38
July 09 2019 23:20 GMT
#21
Hmmm… What does the version number say? It's definitely not the 1.00 version. It doesn't even have most of the deco. Looks more like my first draft release. Must be a mixup, expect an update soon.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
July 09 2019 23:28 GMT
#22
hoping someone will make a guide on how to play the new maps.
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
July 09 2019 23:28 GMT
#23
You're right, it even says (alpha). Weird they'd upload this version right now when there's updated versions.
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
July 09 2019 23:35 GMT
#24
Well, I just watched Rain play the newest version… No idea what could have gone wrong there O_o
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 23:48:25
July 09 2019 23:46 GMT
#25
Walls for Power Bond:

[image loading]

[image loading]

Top Right location is not ling-tight, I don't think you can make a ling-tight wall in this spot.

[image loading]

^ NOT ling-tight


Top left location, if you shift your rax/fact over to the right a bit, it's still ling-tight and you can pop a vulture out on the inside:

[image loading]
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
July 10 2019 00:08 GMT
#26
You should submit those walls to broodwall.com
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MelLOw[bwL]
Profile Joined September 2018
United States36 Posts
July 10 2019 00:23 GMT
#27
I AM SO ANGRY THAT 2V2 LADDER ISNT HERE...!!
ALSO, WHO CHOOSES THESE MAPS FOR LADDER...?
Check out my art: www.instagram.com/chazlake
iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
July 10 2019 00:25 GMT
#28
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.



I totally agree... can we plz have one season without CB/FS
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
July 10 2019 00:29 GMT
#29
what about Error 50:7 when trying to start a rank match
iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
July 10 2019 00:29 GMT
#30
Ranked isnt live yet i think!
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
July 10 2019 00:30 GMT
#31
On July 10 2019 09:29 iRk-AGge wrote:
Ranked isnt live yet i think!


i see
MelLOw[bwL]
Profile Joined September 2018
United States36 Posts
July 10 2019 02:55 GMT
#32
@freaking Blizzard gave us an outdated version.
Check out my art: www.instagram.com/chazlake
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
July 10 2019 03:56 GMT
#33
Where can I get the updated version of tres pass? Hope this gets resolved quickly..Freakling youre in contact with blizz about it?
aka DragOn[NaS]
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 04:44:00
July 10 2019 04:43 GMT
#34
what a surprise to see trespass in the ladder, i'd completely forgotten about my old version! thanks to freakling for turning it into something that's actually playable lol.
vibeo gane,
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 10 2019 05:19 GMT
#35
Since I'm as tech-dumb as it can get, what's the functional difference between 32 and 64 bit releases?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
July 10 2019 06:42 GMT
#36
On July 10 2019 14:19 Ej_ wrote:
Since I'm as tech-dumb as it can get, what's the functional difference between 32 and 64 bit releases?


It's to do with what your operating system supports. There's 32bit (this was mainly phased out for Windows after XP, but you could still buy 32bit Windows in 7 and 8 iirc) and 64bit. To put it bluntly it affects how much RAM an application is able to use. 32bit computers and applications can only support a maximum of 4GB RAM. There's other differences as well but that's the main one.

Issue was that Macs no longer support 32bit applications of any kind (or at least they won't) so this was something Blizzard have to fix or people won't be able to play the game from Macs at all.
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
July 10 2019 06:55 GMT
#37
im stuck in old ladder, i still have my 2300 mmr, i can only play old ladder maps or else i get 50:7 error when i get matched
great....
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
July 10 2019 07:05 GMT
#38
On July 10 2019 15:55 Bakuryu wrote:
im stuck in old ladder, i still have my 2300 mmr, i can only play old ladder maps or else i get 50:7 error when i get matched
great....


New season hasn't started yet I believe?
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kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
July 10 2019 07:39 GMT
#39
On July 10 2019 07:25 Qikz wrote:
NEUTRAL CC ON POWERBOND! O_O

You know what to do, mr. ZerO
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
July 10 2019 07:44 GMT
#40
On July 10 2019 16:05 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 15:55 Bakuryu wrote:
im stuck in old ladder, i still have my 2300 mmr, i can only play old ladder maps or else i get 50:7 error when i get matched
great....


New season hasn't started yet I believe?


It has for Koreans and Americans.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 08:30:09
July 10 2019 08:08 GMT
#41
On July 10 2019 09:25 iRk-AGge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.



I totally agree... can we plz have one season without CB/FS



....... for fuks sake man veto those maps than dumbass

Dont cry about it when you have the option available to not have to play those mmaps


BTW blizzard reported that. Fs/cb Will stay permanent. In the seasons map pools since the majority. Of the ladder players enjoys playing those maps

User was temp banned for this post.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
July 10 2019 08:09 GMT
#42
why in the flying fuuuuuu are they keep on using Block Chain.. this map is some serious trash.. meanwhile, an awesome map like Whiteout is not getting the love it deserves..

total bollocks
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
July 10 2019 08:12 GMT
#43
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.

100% agreed

it's played out af.. been for a couple of years, too.

But they will not get rid of it, you can bet on that.
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QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 09:02:39
July 10 2019 09:02 GMT
#44
FS and CB are go to maps for new players. They are good to learn builds by FPVODs people can find on the Internet. Since you can down-vote both and enjoy your fresh new experience I don't see any problem.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
July 10 2019 09:20 GMT
#45
On July 10 2019 12:56 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Where can I get the updated version of tres pass? Hope this gets resolved quickly..Freakling youre in contact with blizz about it?

It'll be fixed soon.
Here's the newest version.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 10:14:22
July 10 2019 10:06 GMT
#46
Freakling/-NegativeZero I gotta say I love the look of Tres Pass. I love how pathfinder esque it is in design and I think it might be one of my favourite of your maps!
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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden516 Posts
July 10 2019 10:35 GMT
#47
Like Tres Pass & Power Bond, but i wished Block Chain was replaced by Whiteout
angrypofke
Profile Joined March 2017
Lithuania174 Posts
July 10 2019 12:21 GMT
#48
Agree that FS and CB should stay for 1500 and below mmr players, as they already are overwhelmed with stuff to learn, even on overplayed maps (They shouldn't be in KSL though...). Maybe change the tileset? Make space FS and jungle CB?

The x64 bit update is very important (and most difficult, I imagine). Grant said himself, they can't do any other big updates before they have 64bit, because it directly impacts the longevity of the game (soon there won't be OS'es that support 32bit anymore). So help them test the 64bit, so they can finalize it and have programmers start doing other amazing stuff.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
July 10 2019 12:30 GMT
#49
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.


What's wrong? I feel it's great they are keeping these 2 maps as people are the most familiar with them and won't have to learn 7 new maps every season. You can always ban them if you don't like them.
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
July 10 2019 13:06 GMT
#50
I'm just excited to play time campaign and UMS with the new skins

My ass is too old for ladder
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
July 10 2019 13:24 GMT
#51
Tres Pass seems super terran favored, hard to secure a 3rd gas for Z and P can't flank/outmaneuver the T army

Btw how do you enable the 64 bit thing?
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 15:18:00
July 10 2019 15:00 GMT
#52
2) Overwatch >> honestly this isnt a very good map
(2) Tres Pass >> looks pretty interesting, excited to try it out
(3) Power Bond >> looks pretty average, reminds me of a lot of space maps from the 2006-2008 era
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1 >> was shitty for pros but it could be interesting for lower ranked players. might be interesting for f or e players but unlike a lot of maps i suspect it gets worse the better you are
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Gladiator 1.1 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
On July 10 2019 21:30 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.


What's wrong? I feel it's great they are keeping these 2 maps as people are the most familiar with them and won't have to learn 7 new maps every season. You can always ban them if you don't like them.
I only get three vetos, thats the problem. CB and FS eat them all up and then were at the mercy of any other bad maps they put in. If they were free vetos [and more maps] id never complain about them again. lol
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
July 10 2019 16:18 GMT
#53
On July 11 2019 00:00 Dazed. wrote:
2) Overwatch >> honestly this isnt a very good map
(2) Tres Pass >> looks pretty interesting, excited to try it out
(3) Power Bond >> looks pretty average, reminds me of a lot of space maps from the 2006-2008 era
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1 >> was shitty for pros but it could be interesting for lower ranked players. might be interesting for f or e players but unlike a lot of maps i suspect it gets worse the better you are
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Gladiator 1.1 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 21:30 Dante08 wrote:
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.


What's wrong? I feel it's great they are keeping these 2 maps as people are the most familiar with them and won't have to learn 7 new maps every season. You can always ban them if you don't like them.
I only get three vetos, thats the problem. CB and FS eat them all up and then were at the mercy of any other bad maps they put in. If they were free vetos [and more maps] id never complain about them again. lol

you seem to hate 4 player maps so give us your insight into what you think are the good ones.
What are your 3 favorite 4 player maps that isn't FS/CB/Gladiator?
I'll help you out by sharing mine.
+ Show Spoiler +

1.Electric Circuit
2.la mancha
3.Dante's peak

Flash should fear Sacsri
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
July 10 2019 16:20 GMT
#54
For me the new season did not started yet. Still old rankings and maps.
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
July 10 2019 16:36 GMT
#55
Looks like ladder works on NA but not on EU.
Calendaraka Foxhan
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
July 10 2019 16:38 GMT
#56
I'm kind of disappointed Gladiator returned from a previous season instead of one of the other viable 4 player maps. It's ok but I'd rather have something else.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3363 Posts
July 10 2019 16:39 GMT
#57
Too bad neither whiteout or sylphid are there but nice to have a new season regardless
Horang2 fan
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 16:43:45
July 10 2019 16:43 GMT
#58
On July 10 2019 21:21 angrypofke wrote:
soon there won't be OS'es that support 32bit anymore.

why? 0_o 64bit is about how many bits your CPU is handling at a time in 1 operation, if you can compute on 64bits you can always compute in less than 64bits. New operating system that don't handle that is a bad operating system? bad for compatibility but also optimization of software that would use a different computing mode?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 17:41:15
July 10 2019 17:40 GMT
#59
On July 11 2019 01:18 art_of_turtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2019 00:00 Dazed. wrote:
2) Overwatch >> honestly this isnt a very good map
(2) Tres Pass >> looks pretty interesting, excited to try it out
(3) Power Bond >> looks pretty average, reminds me of a lot of space maps from the 2006-2008 era
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1 >> was shitty for pros but it could be interesting for lower ranked players. might be interesting for f or e players but unlike a lot of maps i suspect it gets worse the better you are
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Gladiator 1.1 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
On July 10 2019 21:30 Dante08 wrote:
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.


What's wrong? I feel it's great they are keeping these 2 maps as people are the most familiar with them and won't have to learn 7 new maps every season. You can always ban them if you don't like them.
I only get three vetos, thats the problem. CB and FS eat them all up and then were at the mercy of any other bad maps they put in. If they were free vetos [and more maps] id never complain about them again. lol

you seem to hate 4 player maps so give us your insight into what you think are the good ones.
What are your 3 favorite 4 player maps that isn't FS/CB/Gladiator?
I'll help you out by sharing mine.
+ Show Spoiler +

1.Electric Circuit
2.la mancha
3.Dante's peak

the problem isnt 4 player maps its what the community does with them. lt/luna/python/fs+cb all got spammed to death.

If were talking all time 4 player...

hall of valhalla
815
jungle story
blade storm
forbidden zone

if were talking just modern 4 player, yeah, andromeda, la mancha and dante are pretty good.


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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 18:04:20
July 10 2019 18:01 GMT
#60
On July 10 2019 17:12 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.

100% agreed

it's played out af.. been for a couple of years, too.

But they will not get rid of it, you can bet on that.


Well actually, I kind of like to play on these maps as someone still trying to learn the game, they provide the continuity needed to get the basics down, so good for chobos like me I'd say

But the real MVP here is the input 'fix' (finally!).
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avanhokie
Profile Joined May 2017
50 Posts
July 10 2019 18:07 GMT
#61
If we stuck with maps forever because they were the "standard" at the time we would still be playing LT, Luna, Python,etc. There are plenty of good maps that are do not have crazy features and lend themselves to macro play. FS/CB are stale and particularly boring at higher levels.

I don't particularly have a problem with Gladiator other than PvP on the map...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
July 10 2019 19:28 GMT
#62
On July 10 2019 19:35 A.Alm wrote:
Like Tres Pass & Power Bond, but i wished Block Chain was replaced by Whiteout

My thoughts exactly
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
July 10 2019 19:33 GMT
#63
On July 11 2019 02:40 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2019 01:18 art_of_turtle wrote:
On July 11 2019 00:00 Dazed. wrote:
2) Overwatch >> honestly this isnt a very good map
(2) Tres Pass >> looks pretty interesting, excited to try it out
(3) Power Bond >> looks pretty average, reminds me of a lot of space maps from the 2006-2008 era
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1 >> was shitty for pros but it could be interesting for lower ranked players. might be interesting for f or e players but unlike a lot of maps i suspect it gets worse the better you are
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Gladiator 1.1 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
On July 10 2019 21:30 Dante08 wrote:
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.


What's wrong? I feel it's great they are keeping these 2 maps as people are the most familiar with them and won't have to learn 7 new maps every season. You can always ban them if you don't like them.
I only get three vetos, thats the problem. CB and FS eat them all up and then were at the mercy of any other bad maps they put in. If they were free vetos [and more maps] id never complain about them again. lol

you seem to hate 4 player maps so give us your insight into what you think are the good ones.
What are your 3 favorite 4 player maps that isn't FS/CB/Gladiator?
I'll help you out by sharing mine.
+ Show Spoiler +

1.Electric Circuit
2.la mancha
3.Dante's peak

the problem isnt 4 player maps its what the community does with them. lt/luna/python/fs+cb all got spammed to death.

If were talking all time 4 player...

hall of valhalla
815
jungle story
blade storm
forbidden zone

if were talking just modern 4 player, yeah, andromeda, la mancha and dante are pretty good.



What set's these 5 particular maps apart compared to what our modern community has done now?

I'm personally not a big fan of Andromeda, but thats because Corsair Reaver is difficult for me to handle.
Flash should fear Sacsri
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
July 10 2019 19:57 GMT
#64
I'm actually enjoying the new maps so far except block chain, and that is because I don't really like how those partial island maps play out. But tres pass and power bond are actually super fun to me. Power bond reminds me of a more modern rush hour.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 20:38:31
July 10 2019 20:37 GMT
#65
On July 11 2019 04:33 art_of_turtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2019 02:40 Dazed. wrote:
On July 11 2019 01:18 art_of_turtle wrote:
On July 11 2019 00:00 Dazed. wrote:
2) Overwatch >> honestly this isnt a very good map
(2) Tres Pass >> looks pretty interesting, excited to try it out
(3) Power Bond >> looks pretty average, reminds me of a lot of space maps from the 2006-2008 era
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1 >> was shitty for pros but it could be interesting for lower ranked players. might be interesting for f or e players but unlike a lot of maps i suspect it gets worse the better you are
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Gladiator 1.1 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
On July 10 2019 21:30 Dante08 wrote:
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.


What's wrong? I feel it's great they are keeping these 2 maps as people are the most familiar with them and won't have to learn 7 new maps every season. You can always ban them if you don't like them.
I only get three vetos, thats the problem. CB and FS eat them all up and then were at the mercy of any other bad maps they put in. If they were free vetos [and more maps] id never complain about them again. lol

you seem to hate 4 player maps so give us your insight into what you think are the good ones.
What are your 3 favorite 4 player maps that isn't FS/CB/Gladiator?
I'll help you out by sharing mine.
+ Show Spoiler +

1.Electric Circuit
2.la mancha
3.Dante's peak

the problem isnt 4 player maps its what the community does with them. lt/luna/python/fs+cb all got spammed to death.

If were talking all time 4 player...

hall of valhalla
815
jungle story
blade storm
forbidden zone

if were talking just modern 4 player, yeah, andromeda, la mancha and dante are pretty good.



What set's these 5 particular maps apart compared to what our modern community has done now?
They all play out quite distinctly from one another, and I havent played the meta to death for over ten years. Id rather play a map with a mineral only expansion over fs too--- literally just for the novelty. I always had good games on those maps, it was always fresh and felt truer to the intended experience of broodwar-- strategy. A lot of that came down to the mutual ignorance of me and my opponents, as I said, not maps I gutted for years on end in tandem with vods etc..

I'm personally not a big fan of Andromeda, but thats because Corsair Reaver is difficult for me to handle.
haha, thats sort of the dream scenario of andromeda for me. gaurdian devourer vs late game sair reaver/dark archon, its pretty crazy. Same thing for andromeda as the older maps, games on andromeda tend to be a bit more unique than the average. Its also just a really solid map for macro which is fun in itself.
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user80269
Profile Joined November 2018
20 Posts
July 10 2019 20:41 GMT
#66
how does the carbot skin look on 640x480?

also for players on wine, any thoughts about the future and a 64 bit release?
WolFix
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland39 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-11 22:22:38
July 11 2019 14:51 GMT
#67
Tres pass walls for terran:

Top lingproof:
[image loading]

Bottom lingproof:
[image loading]

Top zetproof:
[image loading]

Bottom zetproof:
[image loading]
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
July 11 2019 15:07 GMT
#68
On July 11 2019 05:41 user80269 wrote:
how does the carbot skin look on 640x480?

also for players on wine, any thoughts about the future and a 64 bit release?


Are you still playing on the old VGA CRT from 1990s? It should look fine, HD graphics look fine in 640x480 (window mode) and they are also down-scaled from 4K resolution.
user80269
Profile Joined November 2018
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-11 19:20:35
July 11 2019 19:17 GMT
#69
thanks for the reply quadrox. it's from 2003 :D nothing can beat good electron guns! with the deepest black (off), the 150 or 200 hz render, the block and schematic diagrams and wave forms to study if you so desire... what is not to love? they can not contain and do not depend on nonsense non-free firmware; can produce x rays (the likely cause of superhuman level bw)


would add that although vibrant, remastered graphics are fuzzy and indistinct at low res compared to the original.
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
July 11 2019 19:45 GMT
#70
Theres a bug creating new accounts, you only can use one symbol " _ " ... instead of - . ( ) [ ] please support this thread: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/bug-creating-new-account/351
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Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway633 Posts
July 11 2019 20:01 GMT
#71
On July 12 2019 04:45 dM-White wrote:
Theres a bug creating new accounts, you only can use one symbol " _ " ... instead of - . ( ) [ ] please support this thread: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/bug-creating-new-account/351


Hear, hear! Really frustrating if we lose all those signs too.
It's ok. I still love you <3
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-11 20:07:22
July 11 2019 20:06 GMT
#72
tres pass hosted in UMS results in neither player starting with money. Zerg anyway.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
July 11 2019 20:24 GMT
#73
On July 12 2019 05:06 Dazed. wrote:
tres pass hosted in UMS results in neither player starting with money. Zerg anyway.

That is because the map currently contains no standard triggers.
Is there any good reason to run it on UMS?
WolFix
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland39 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-11 22:21:20
July 11 2019 22:20 GMT
#74
Tres pass has a bug where u can't mine 2 minerals in top natural

[image loading]
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-11 23:12:13
July 11 2019 23:10 GMT
#75
This is the most optimal ling-proof wall for the bottom base of Tres:

[image loading]

edit: In case there is any confusion, the scv does NOT need to be there, factory to the right of barracks is impassable by lings and zealots.

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JonttuTonttu
Profile Blog Joined November 2018
81 Posts
July 11 2019 23:37 GMT
#76
I absolutely love the idea of both of these new maps, tres pass for its layout and power bond for its use of the neutral CC in the middle, I've been wondering whether you could have a map that's balanced ZvP-wise, where Zerg gets an infested CC and Protoss gets to have an easy 3rd or 3rd and 4th gas. You guys think that could work?

Also Freakling what do those billboards do on the highground bases on tres pass? Are they the key to fix unit pathfinding on maps, where players start closer to the center of the map away from the edges? Would be absolutely awesome if that can fix that.
WolFix
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland39 Posts
July 11 2019 23:57 GMT
#77
On July 12 2019 08:10 razorsuKe wrote:
This is the most optimal ling-proof wall for the bottom base of Tres:

[image loading]

edit: In case there is any confusion, the scv does NOT need to be there, factory to the right of barracks is impassable by lings and zealots.




This is only optimal if u don't need to put an add-on
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
586 Posts
July 12 2019 05:38 GMT
#78
On July 11 2019 05:41 user80269 wrote:
also for players on wine, any thoughts about the future and a 64 bit release?


seems to work fine for me (wine-staging on Opensuse, no additional configurations done, just unchecked 32bit option) which is surprisingly nice =)
So... BW is back
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
July 12 2019 06:24 GMT
#79
On July 11 2019 00:00 Dazed. wrote:
2) Overwatch >> honestly this isnt a very good map
(2) Tres Pass >> looks pretty interesting, excited to try it out
(3) Power Bond >> looks pretty average, reminds me of a lot of space maps from the 2006-2008 era
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1 >> was shitty for pros but it could be interesting for lower ranked players. might be interesting for f or e players but unlike a lot of maps i suspect it gets worse the better you are
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
(4) Gladiator 1.1 >> holy shit fucking get rid of this map already
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 21:30 Dante08 wrote:
On July 10 2019 06:35 HaN- wrote:
Ok that's enough of FS and CB.
Next season we need them out.


What's wrong? I feel it's great they are keeping these 2 maps as people are the most familiar with them and won't have to learn 7 new maps every season. You can always ban them if you don't like them.
I only get three vetos, thats the problem. CB and FS eat them all up and then were at the mercy of any other bad maps they put in. If they were free vetos [and more maps] id never complain about them again. lol

So every map is garbage then? Ok.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden516 Posts
July 12 2019 10:34 GMT
#80
I think we are lucky with a lot of new maps in SC:BW, compared to for example CS:GO...
If you hate all the ladder maps, find friends and play One-on-One and choose whatever map you want.
Removing FS/CB and adding to complex ASL maps will not be fun for lower rank players.
JonttuTonttu
Profile Blog Joined November 2018
81 Posts
July 12 2019 13:16 GMT
#81
On July 12 2019 19:34 A.Alm wrote:
I think we are lucky with a lot of new maps in SC:BW, compared to for example CS:GO...
If you hate all the ladder maps, find friends and play One-on-One and choose whatever map you want.
Removing FS/CB and adding to complex ASL maps will not be fun for lower rank players.

Well that's hard to say, especially if they're the sort of people that wanna learn by playing without really delving too deep into the builds and timings and all that sort of thing.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
July 12 2019 14:42 GMT
#82
Is ranked even working anymore? I waited for 300+ seconds 3 times and gave up, then noticed a bunch of people were creating 1v1 public games and just played that
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
July 12 2019 15:13 GMT
#83
The new take on raid assault 2 should be fun, but I feel like there’s two too many broken matchups in this map pool. PvP on gladiator is no fun at all, and the neutral cc on powerbond looks like it will just wreck TvZ.
Fuck KeSPA.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
July 12 2019 15:49 GMT
#84
If CCs wrecked TvZ it would be the most broken matchup ever already...
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
July 14 2019 12:45 GMT
#85
Happy to see these kind of maps promoted in the map pool
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 15 2019 23:26 GMT
#86
On July 10 2019 09:23 MelLOw[bwL] wrote:
I AM SO ANGRY THAT 2V2 LADDER ISNT HERE...!!
ALSO, WHO CHOOSES THESE MAPS FOR LADDER...?

at this point I would give up on 2v2 ladder.. doesn't seem to be a priority in the slightest
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada760 Posts
July 16 2019 00:04 GMT
#87
On July 16 2019 08:26 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2019 09:23 MelLOw[bwL] wrote:
I AM SO ANGRY THAT 2V2 LADDER ISNT HERE...!!
ALSO, WHO CHOOSES THESE MAPS FOR LADDER...?

at this point I would give up on 2v2 ladder.. doesn't seem to be a priority in the slightest


yep i think they straight up lied about it ever being a priority which is pretty shady. i remember last year in may when they said it would be ready before 2019. now all we've heard is that its a 2019 priority and no other news on it
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CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
July 16 2019 00:13 GMT
#88
when is team melee ladder tho
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
July 16 2019 00:20 GMT
#89
On July 16 2019 09:13 CadenZie wrote:
when is team melee ladder tho

3v3 BGH ladder or I bail tbh
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-16 01:23:35
July 16 2019 01:19 GMT
#90
On July 16 2019 09:20 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2019 09:13 CadenZie wrote:
when is team melee ladder tho

3v3 BGH ladder or I bail tbh

ladder phantom bgh who's in
2 separate ratings: rating as phantom and rating as sheep
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
July 16 2019 01:47 GMT
#91
On July 16 2019 10:19 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2019 09:20 Jealous wrote:
On July 16 2019 09:13 CadenZie wrote:
when is team melee ladder tho

3v3 BGH ladder or I bail tbh

ladder phantom bgh who's in
2 separate ratings: rating as phantom and rating as sheep

Bet you can't see me on EvolvesCup tho. No mass attack classic version only, no mirror matches.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Fenito
Profile Joined November 2008
Russian Federation10 Posts
July 16 2019 03:42 GMT
#92
when they make ladder 2x2 ?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
July 16 2019 04:37 GMT
#93
On July 16 2019 12:42 Fenito wrote:
when they make ladder 2x2 ?

Lol TT__TT
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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