On January 19 2018 17:16 DSK wrote:
Happy to sign a petition or make a tweet, point the way. Is it a hail mary idea to ask Jim Sterling to look into this and make a vid?.

OpenBW can't come soon enough!.

I'm confused what exactly is OpenBW supposed to change?

Kaolla

China2999 Posts

January 19 2018 14:58 GMT

#122

What a surprise.... Blizzard is just no longer the company it used to be...
If there is any kind of petition started, I would be more than willing to sign

esdf

Croatia736 Posts

January 19 2018 15:04 GMT

#123

On January 19 2018 23:29 Ansibled wrote:

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I'm confused what exactly is OpenBW supposed to change?

Regarding this specific topic? Nothing at all.

Regarding brood war itself, at least you won't be stuck with a sub par remaster.

[AS]Rattus

428 Posts

January 19 2018 15:13 GMT

#124

the koreans would have to switch to openbw to avoid any trademark issues.

CoL_DarkstaR

Germany649 Posts

January 19 2018 15:30 GMT

#125

Blizzard 2018, is this really surprising after EVERYTHING they have been doing since ~2008 ?

Golgotha

Korea (South)8418 Posts

January 19 2018 15:45 GMT

#126

wow. there goes half the morale of the SC:R dev team. what a great way to start the new year. trying to kill the SC:R baby just born a couple months ago.

Endymion

United States3701 Posts

January 19 2018 16:03 GMT

#127

what is openbw??? shieldbattery?

CoL_DarkstaR

Germany649 Posts

January 19 2018 16:04 GMT

#128

On January 20 2018 00:45 Golgotha wrote:
wow. there goes half the morale of the SC:R dev team. what a great way to start the new year. trying to kill the SC:R baby just born a couple months ago.

Right, and it doesn't make sense at all. I just can't understand this behavior of Blizzard.

SCC-Faust

United States3736 Posts

January 19 2018 16:07 GMT

#129

If there is no ASL 5, then I minds as well jump into a blender right now.

CoL_DarkstaR

Germany649 Posts

January 19 2018 16:10 GMT

#130

Here's a serious question though. When does the Blizzard fee actually start? I mean, we all know that there are small tournaments on a daily basis. Also there is stuff like BWCL and other clanleagues. What size does a tournament need to be to start paying the retarded Blizzard fees?

Sihrtogg

Netherlands29 Posts

January 19 2018 16:14 GMT

#131

Would starting a petition be the best course of action now? Will the numbers we realistically can expect to get make a favourable impact on Blizzard?

Cele

Germany4016 Posts

January 19 2018 16:36 GMT

#132

On January 19 2018 16:01 Qikz wrote:

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As I said, don't blame the devs. Remastered isn't the problem it's the executives.

Also iCCUP didn't care about BW either. All their systems were built around DOTA and they didn't want to change any of it, hence why there was only a specific small map pool.

You have no idea what you are talking about,sorry. Iccup did a lot for Broodwar. Eight years we provided a free server for everybody to play on. We ran tours, casts and everything that comes along with it in our freetime, because we are fans.

The Iccup ownership ran the server for years, getting no financial benefit in return. Yes support for the BW server was reduced because the DOTA Server is more lucrative.

Still we held Iccup Nation League 1 & 2, 2nd ended just about 2years ago. And the mappool is big btw.

So if you think Iccup could've been better in the past sure. But saying “iccup didn't care“ is like saying tl.net did't care. Both sites shifted their main focus to other games.

We were a mainstay for foreign BW fans before SC:R tried to shove us out. And still Ant keeps the server running as we speak.

SCC-Faust

United States3736 Posts

January 19 2018 17:00 GMT

#133

I tweeted. I'm a twatter.

[DUF]MethodMan

Germany1716 Posts

January 19 2018 17:03 GMT

#134

Never gonna buy another Blizzard product ever. The things I wish to say right now.

SCC-Faust

United States3736 Posts

January 19 2018 17:12 GMT

#135

On January 20 2018 02:03 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Never gonna buy another Blizzard product ever. The things I wish to say right now.

Say them.

Levque

88 Posts

January 19 2018 17:20 GMT

#136

Just shows the massive corporate disconnect going on at modern Blizzard. This is a 20 year old game with a tiny community and Blizzard still insists on imposing a 90k fee on the last surviving pro tournament?.....and said tournament ISN"T EVEN MAKING A PROFIT.

In 2014, Activision Blizzard was the fifth largest gaming company by revenue worldwide, with total assets of US $14.746 billion and total equity estimated at US $7.513 billion.

This company is raking in billions on their casual cashcows....can they chill the fuck out and lower the fee or whatever the hell is holding up this tournament...PLEASE

Silvanel

Poland4769 Posts

January 19 2018 17:26 GMT

#137

The OP is seriously lacking context. Theres actualy nothing damning in OP, just one guy sad about another comapny not helping them. For anyone without knowledge of details of the situation this all look as pointless bashing. In my opinion OP should be expanded right now this thread looks very weird.

Jealous

10365 Posts

January 19 2018 17:26 GMT

#138

On January 19 2018 23:29 Ansibled wrote:

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I'm confused what exactly is OpenBW supposed to change?

OpenBW and ShieldBattery are grassroots projects which would have helped the BW scene maintain autonomy so that Blizzard couldn't pull shit like this. Blizzard even gave permission to ShieldBattery (or at least there were talks, if I recall correctly) and then rushed out the buggy product that was PTR and RM, effectively preempting both projects and reclaiming control of the Korean scene which was growing organically. It's hard to say how much of this was intentional but the effects are as you see here.

JacktheTerr

United States97 Posts

January 19 2018 17:49 GMT

#139

***CALL TO ARMS*** https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718 post i made to OPPRESS blizzard we need an army to make a difference. EVERY VOICE MATTERS. Please go post just tell them how you feel and like comments spread the word. the time is now we are the resistance. ***CALL TO ARMS***

Toss_Master

United States46 Posts

January 19 2018 17:51 GMT

#140

Why doesn't Blizzard just work with Afreeca better to host tournaments? Why not at least cut the licensing fee in half? If blizzard truly cared for Brood War and it's fans they would listen to us that a lot of us love Afreeca and the ASL's seeing as they are the biggest tournaments in the world right now of the best South Korean players. Afreeca if blizzard doesn't come to any reasonable deals just please don't surrender the ASL!!! First it was the OGN starleagues in 2012 with Blizzard saying BW needed to be let go and everyone move on to SC2. They killed bw's official biggest tournament/starleagues in the world to promote the sequel. Us fans still love bw and want to see the worlds best players compete because it's very entertaining to us. We love the ASL, Blizzard don't ruin possibly our last hope of professional bw starleagues. You already did this in the past please don't make the same mistake again to us fans who do truly love bw and enjoy watching the best pros battle it out!